does anyone else here make and smoke their own meth? theres nothing better than doing it and solving an entire textbook full of calculus equations
Does anyone else here make and smoke their own meth...
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No I don't live in a trailer park
wow thats really racist why do you hate white people so much?
I've never made it, but I used to smoke it all the time back in 2017. It ended really badly so I quit (had to leave the city I was living in and where all my dealers were, it wouldn't have worked otherwise I was too hooked).
That said I'm still interested in meth shit and read about it all the time. Can you tell me how hard it is to make? I've looked at the cooking methods before, some of them seem simple-ish, but the problem seemed to me that all the simple ones were dangerous while the safe ones were more complicated.
Why are you on crack, trailer trash?
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here you go qt UwU
Did you find it hard? Did you mess up a few batches before getting it right?
no its pretty easy as long as you have an isolated place to do it and ventilation
also phosphene can and will kill you quickly
> bubbling dry HCL gas
What the hell does this mean? He did a pretty good job of explaining most of it in plain english but this part is completely incomprehensible to a non chemist
its hydrogen chloride and its very dangerous hence why i said you need ventilation or a gas mask
Just curious as to how you keep your mind on the calculus. I've heard a lot of people on meth just fap all the time.
That's the difference between when an animal NPC takes meth and when an enlightened gentleman takes meth. Mathematicians have historically loved amphetamines for the cognition boost they provide.
>tfw I didnt add enough drain cleaner to my previous batch
>calling it drain cleaner
You sound like a government PSA. I believe the correct term is sodium hydroxide.
Wtf you guys smoke pure chemicals? Why is meth even possible that sounds like garbage
Why do people make it when the Mexican shit is $20 a gram? Honestly curious for research purposes (kek)
meth is garbage, yes
do anything but meth
I guess it's still cheaper, and you can control the quality
>I guess it's still cheaper
Even the precursors are more expensive
This is actually true.
Meth is the worst substance ever unleashed upon humanity next to sarin gas.
Maybe if you are 100% certain to die and want to end it with a banger.
It will ruin your life after taking it once.
Everything else is manageable in comparison even h.
This, but replace splving a textbook with programming.
anyone near chicago here?
>programming
any alternatives besides meth? I used to love fucking around in different languages doing different side projects and shit but lately it seems like such a slog
Adderall, ritalin, concerta
Don't do meth
>theres nothing better than doing it and solving an entire textbook full of calculus equations
this but replace calculus textbooks with cranking the hell out of my semi-erect penis for 24 hours
are there any ways you can achieve the same level of productivity while not on any kind of stimulants what so ever? I remember when I was on adderall and that was enough for me to get things going but now I just have caffeine and it's just not enough.
Which synthetic route do you use?
Just don't be a brainlet
You guys are disgusting. Don't do drugs dumbfucks.
It means that you either generate or buy gaseious HCl, bubble it through sulphuric acid or a bottle packed with calcium chloride and then through your toulene extract.
The hydrochloride salt of methamphetamine should not be soluble in the toulene, precipitating neatly as colorless crystals.
The chemistry in that route is basically "throw acid on there until the alcohol group of the ephedrine" goes away. The reason you use hydroiodic acid (HI) over HCl or HBr is that iodine is a weak enough nucleophile that it doesn't substitute the protonated alcohol.
It's one of the few ways to actually make the stuff cheaply enough to sell.
Of course if you're a big boy you can just do a total synthesis from benzene, but that shit is too expensive, so you won't be able to compete.
I like math and stimulants but I also like having all my teeth. Hard pass from me
Do you realize you probably solved them all wrong though? Or that it probably took you twice the normal time to do them?
how do get shit loads of ephedrine tho
idk m8 who even cares about boring shit like making meth in one step
That chemistry degree sure was worth it to argue with a bunch of retards on the internet
was just wondering, since even pfed gets flagged when you buy it in over certain amounts. Seems like extracting the pure stuff from a plant would be less risky even if its harder
The only difference between ephedrine and p-ephedrine is the stereocenter on the alcohol and the adjacent carbon.
in ephedrine it's (d),(d), in p-ephedrine it's (s),(s).
Methamphetamine is biologically active in both the (d) and the (s) enatiomer, so which one you eliminate the alcohol from LITERALLY does not matter and a racemic mixture will also do.
well then, how do you buy so many pfed pills without getting caught
I dunno and I don't really care.
If I really wanted some meth I'd do it the big boy way:
Start with 1-bromo-2-hydroxy-propane, perform Friedel-Crafts alkylation by using substoichiometric amounts of your alcohol in benzene using AlBr3 as a catalyst.
Isolate the product, purify by recrystallizazion.
The 1-phenyl-2-propanol is then oxidized with Pyridinium Chlorochromate to the 1-phenylacetone. Isolate, purify.
Lastly you perform reductive amination, so you take the 1-phenylacetone, throw in some methylamine, followed by sodium borohydride and you're basically done.
3 steps from commercially available precursors.
Of course, you also need to synthesize the methylamine, because buying that will get you landed on a watchlist, but that's like 2 steps and you can do it on a big scale.
Realistically though, you couldn't do it unless you could also come up with a synthesis on this level on your own.
>how do get shit loads of ephedrine tho
Canada user here. Getting relatively pure ephedrine is not actually a problem here. You can buy it super cheap at health stores and there's no regulations on buying it like there is in the states. It's fairly pure too, they come in these bottles that say "Kaizen Ephedrine - Nasal decongestant" and there are no other active ingredients in it. The only thing is you might want to gradually accumulate your stockpile over time so as to not raise any eyebrows.