I'm so tired of fucking looking like this. I try to cut to get some more definition and I go full skelly. When I try to bulk I just gain too much fat on top of what I already have and end up looking soft.
Can anyone more knowledgeable than me please tell me whether I should get leaner to avoid getting too soft when I bulk? Is a recomp the answer?
you've got a lot more muscle to gain you really shouldn't be having issues with not being able to make lean gains. That only really happens once you start getting close to your natty limit
Jacob Nelson
I think I might have mild klinefelters, you can't see well in the pic but my hips are really wide. The problem is when I start trying to gain I just end up putting on fat instead of muscle. Maybe it's to do with workout intensity?
I'm 5'9 170lbs
Grayson Richardson
>Maybe it's to do with workout intensity probably, whats your routine look like?
Ayden Davis
A Bench DB OHP Incline DB bench Tricep pulldowns
B Pullups DB Row Deadlift Shrugs Curls
C Squat Calf raises Abs 5k run
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Jacob Garcia
lift harder, eat cleaner and come back after 1 year if you're still having this issue get your test levels checked
Jayden Cooper
Not OP bit what do people mean when they say eat cleaner
Angel Nguyen
less processed food, less takeaway stuff (fast food)
Mason Taylor
he said he's getting fat, when i say eat cleaner i mean cut down on fat and to an extent carbs but continue to eat lots of meat basically cutting out any processed shit
Nathan Miller
Eating less fat and carbs is orthogonal to eating less processed foods.
Gabriel Gutierrez
>I try to cut to get some more definition and I go full skelly. When I try to bulk I just gain too much fat on top of what I already have and end up looking soft try getting more protein
Tyler Lee
do you actually train hard. Id suggest doing some dorian yates amrap programmes where you go to faliure for one set. I think you might just be going through the motions of workingout and not pushing yourself. he used to puke in his workouts if that helps.
Brayden Gonzalez
You can’t have mild, it’s literally an additional chromosome
Adrian Wilson
Shoulder to hip looks normal. Your coure makes it seem like your hops are wide, when i reality you should juat work on your core more and bulk.
Jordan Russell
>happy trail down to pubes
This >hand clap Nigga >clap clap
Adrian Clark
Post hip circumference
Henry Wilson
Do shitton volume while cutting
Jackson Robinson
I think you have fuckarounditis
Ethan Morales
You like fine if not great, easy foundation to work with. Nut up and get to work. That face plus a good body you’re in like flynn Pretty much this too
Eli Rodriguez
Boy, that are too many exercises. You do any exercises twice a week with isn't much to begin with, also you are training 6 days a week which tells that reps/sets or weight is to low. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to do this. With less exercises and more volume you should make more gains. Try to concentrate on the big five compound lifts. While that eat at maintain or slightly above if you're gaining weight to fast you are eating to much.
Logan Kelly
wtf how are you so heavy with no muscle? Post your legs please.
Ryan Howard
You can and do have mild and severe downs syndrome
Dylan Davis
Do fasting, brainlet
Jaxson Peterson
Why didn't you just crop your head out instead of poorly blurring it?
Jaxson Morales
You've made it by normie standards. You just have raging body dysmorphia like all of us do here. Lift hard and just perpetually recomp/gaintenance imo.
Andrew Collins
I have the same issue, I try cutting aiming for the Brad Pitt fight club look but end up skelly mode, but if I bulk I just get a double chin and look goofy as fuck
For now I'm just staying skelly mode but I'm a 19 year old zoomer so in a few more years when my beard thickens out (its patchy as shit now and looks scruffy as fuck) I'll grow a cope beard to hide my face and just go full bloatlord mode. My only reason for staying skelly is the face gains, I actually look good lean but if I go over 10% bf I just look like a fat fuck. But if I can hide my face with a beard there's no problem, I'm unironically gonna do SS + GOMAD and I'll even post progress on Jow Forums for the memes when I start
Joseph White
>5'9 170lbs No way are you 170lbs at 5'9", my brother is the same height and hes way bigger than you at 155lbs. Either you're lying about your weight or you measured your height completely wrong
Colton Martinez
Matthieu you're gay
Kevin Jones
>170lbs Gotta call bullshit here kiddo. I'm 5'8" and that's what I looked like at 140lbs
I'm like you. Avoid getting a bear belly form and go for bear form and become thick built like klokov.
Daniel Hall
Op here, thanks guys for all your advice. I will try to up the intensity and crack down on diet a bit more. I think I probably do have a bit of dysmorphia too because I've been convinced I have klinefelters
I am definitely around 170, multiple scales all show me between 167 and 172ish. I am massively bottom heavy and my weight tends to go to my ass and thighs first, which I think is why I have a 155 upper body- here's another pic for reference
Also, a few people have mentioned the routine I posted isn't the best, and that I should look at something higher volume to really make me wanna puke. There are a dizzying amount, phat and gvt for example, does anyone have any suggestions?
Isaiah James
>I am massively bottom heavy Yeah your legs do look a bit too big, that's probably why you don't have the appearance of a 170lbs guy, a lot of that is just leg. Skip leg day once in a while and put more emphasis on upper body, but aside from that you look fine.
I'd suggest a slow, lean bulk where you gain lean mass while barely gaining any fat if you do have shit fat distribution and look pudgy when you gain any
William Phillips
OP I have same body as you, doing GSLP. all my weight is in my lower body as well were gonna make it brah, PUSH YOUR SELF!
Nathaniel Ortiz
also focus on getting your numbers up focus on compounds and make sure when you do your set to put all your focus into it and then rest for a while
Ayden Clark
Also post ass
Juan Young
Thanks bros. We're all gonna make it
Jayden Martin
cutting is for people with muscles. stop cutting and get some muscles first.
Isaiah Ross
>Nut up and get to work. my fucking nigga OP u just have to nut up bro what the fuck
Ayden Wright
>52085814 Cut or bulk isn't going to matter if you're not lifting heavy enough, often enough. Which you obviously aren't.
I went from 165 - 205 doing squats, deads, ohp, bench, rows, and cleans.