Ok, so ive read here from you that the elite worship pic related. You've told me they sacrifice children and rape kids in her honour.
Though non of you, has ever explained what Ishtar worshipping actually consists of. There's like at least 1000 different anons who say that "the truth is out there", and post the symbols and say what the symbols mean, but there is no coherent narrative other than spooky shit and a lingering claim of these symbols being powerfol for being old memes.
But nowhere do you go point by point what does these beliefs entail and how do they differ to current western trends of thought and belief. It really seems to me more and more, that you are just 20sth year old acne boys with ego issues who try 15yo ugly girl strategies for getting attention by projecting depth. Am i right?
If not explain it to me please, but answer my questions, i even went as far as reading SnowCrash and i still don't fucking get what Ishtar and the Whore of Babylon has crap to do with power, or why is an "occult" godess when her role is not only taken but purified by the image of the fucking Virgin Mary.
She's the original Satan, back before Christianity stole aspects of stories from Babylonian and Sumerian culture and even the Egyptians, like the great flood and the 10 commandments.
Ethan Gomez
What's her name?
Blake Foster
Inanna
Aaron Scott
>What's her name? I guess you didn’t make it to OP’s second paragraph.
Charles Price
2 books I would suggest are The Satanic Witch, and The Satanic Rituals by Anton LaVey. Both are unironically more informative than the Satanic Bible itself, and they can all be found on Amazon for less than 10 dollars a piece. A lot of modern day Satanic worship is done in the manner in which it was taught in those books, the Grimorum Verum is a good read on the topic as well. Also when researching try looking the goddess up as Inanna and not Ishtar, both names are applicable but will yield different search results depending on the author of the source of information you find.
Leo Powell
>before Christianity stole Wouldn't you agree this stories are everywhere? Aren't they maybe just old memes?
Can you explain it further?
Also "She's the original Satan" what do you mean by this? "Satan is actually good guy"? Or the less woke "Satan represents goddess of nature who the patriarchy subdued with its phallocentric religion"?
Do you think human sacrifice is okay? Would you like to be flayed and burned?
Isaac Thomas
>original satan hahahahahaha just make it up as you go!
Godess of Fertility, goes into hell to be cool/gets kidnapped but loses her powers, has to be rescued but rescue kinda fails so she can only come back to the world in Spring but has to return in Winter
Nathaniel Rivera
>patriarchy subdued with its phallocentric religion Its actually a very big misunderstanding. Patriarchy is always marked by goddess worship, i.e. Virgin Mary or so, not by fallocentric cult of male god.
It can't be summed up a tweet. Listen to Bill Cooper Mystery Babylon. All 45 hours. Then you will have an idea of where to start.
Elijah Ross
This is one of the false idols that Moses smashed, poured the ashes to a lake and forced the believers to drink the water to destroy it completely.
Bentley Torres
thats interesting to know, but doesnt change the fact that that argument is thrown around a lot as moral justification for getting into witchcraft and satanism
So it's this easy? Just kidnap a few kids and sacrifice them at an altar to this lady and you get rich and powerful? This seems pretty easy to reproduce
Xavier Price
Gee it's almost as though the Deus Vult LARPers on this board don't actually know very much about religion >though it is a LARP so OP taking it seriously is also misguided
Christian Cook
What I mean is the story of Lucifer/Satan was based on her She makes the same journey in the lore, unfortunately many of the tablets from which her stories were translated were destroyed so we only have bits and parts to go off of as is Here's the absolute shortest summary for you She ruled over Heaven and was cast down to Hell, clawed her way up out of hell to then rule over the human domain and attempt to make her way back up to Heaven and rule over it again She wasn't necessarily bad, she like most gods of old mythologies was just a personification of nature used to explain thr irregularities of human behavior, she had a temper and was prone to vengence, many lovers though one human in particular won her heart only to pursue other women in her leave causing her to cast him down to hell in a jealous rage, his sister sacrifices herself to take his place for half the year which is an ancient explanation for why we have seasons, in the winter Inanna is cold and sad due to the absence of her beloved Dumuzi, in the summer she is warm and joyful at his return, etc. She also ruled over planets Venus and Mars, since she was a goddess of both love and war, her essence is split up into those separate characters in later mythologies A very wide amount of modern day literature is even based on her actually, she was a really important goddess in regards to all mythologies and relgions to follow after There's a lot and I'm not the greatest at explaining it, all I can say is keep researching user, it's just one of those things that makes more sense the more you learn about it
Logan Rivera
she's just one that one section of the elite and their thralls worship, other elites and their thralls worship other individual archons it's not much different from india, different hindu tribes worship different individuals of the 8 gods as their patron god playing elona would probably help you gain insight into the whole thing and how it works
Luis Lopez
Ereshkigal was her sister who ruled over the underworld, though I've also heard the interpretation that Ereshkigal was supposed to simply be an extension of Inanna herself as she's supposed to be the goddess who gains rule over all domains
Christian Hughes
>goddess of both love and war
Any idea how this dual role came to be or how these roles fit together in the old Sumeran religion? Because from today's perspective it looks a bit weird to me.
what really?? all this time the owl lady was Innana's sister? are you sure? when i google Ishtar i get the owl lady too
no but i see it outside too, its not this boards larp, its a thing cool 25yos do for depth-signal
As far as i know she descends to hell at her own will, but each gate she crosses she is expected to leave one clothing item behind. One she gets to the end she is naked and all her power, derived from her clothes and makeup, is gone, she is left bare bodied. There she is enslaven and never allowed to return. Then some dude comes in and makes a deal with the underworld godess to have her back cause without her the world was not fertile anymore and everything was dying. Underworld Godess allows it for 6 months every year.
It seems to me like you are mixing stories here, completely forgetting Enki, and making a goddess worship of what is essentially a fertility meme that is mirrored in every other religion ever.
Probably because of duality, one could say all emotions are the same and just passion with different personalitys, war and love being dualistic and complete opposites in nature was probably what caused them to go hand in hand, like the cliche eternal battle between hope and despair
Michael Evans
its not love, is sex, or rather, rape
blood and semen, bodily fluids
Brody King
>taking La Vey seriously
Kys.
Ayden Cook
The statues had such wonderful bimbo tiddies back in the days.
As I said, I'm not the best at explaining it nor do all the interpretations line up making it a hard story to follow, which I am probably hazy on because it's been a while since I've researched it However I forgot but just remembered her descent to hell being voluntary, the stripping of clothing and adornments leaving her undignified always makes me feel it wasn't but then I remembered she had to do so in order to ask for a favor
Julian Richardson
Oh I know that story...
Henry Bailey
Jow Forums isn't one person fucktard.
The "religion" to which the elites subscribe is actually secular humanism. All the Osiris/Isis/Horus, pyramids, sun/moon/earth, Egyption/Babylonian symbolism is a throwback to the ancient Mystery Babylon religion (secular humanism). Alchemy is cut from the same cloth and symbolizes the same thing. The window dressing (gods, mythos, ritual) is just for the profane... .the adept understands the true meaning.
tl;dr The elites do not believe in any god or devil. All that shit is symbolic of man becoming god (Genesis 3:22) and the punchline is building a "utopian" one world communist authoritarian government in which the ecclesiastical and secular authority all resides with the all powerful state (comprised we assume by the high priests of this religion).
Manly P. Hall's book "Secret Teachings of All Ages" is a great overview of the subject.
Bill Cooper's 44 hour Mystery Babylon series fills in a lot of pieces of the puzzle, if you care to learn more he has an entire hour devoted to bibliography so you could spend the next few years reading if you actually care to learn more about the subject. youtube.com/watch?v=2iCLykzJ0d8&list=PL11E33A6AEEB2674F
>the stripping of clothing and adornments leaving her undignified always makes me feel it wasn't what do you mean
What would you pose as answer to my original question though?
Kayden Gutierrez
Ishtar is trying to follow her lover into eternity to be with him...
At each gate she must give up part of herself - the Jewels which adorn her, her sandals... Her ego, personhood... Lastly Ishtar gives up her Godhood, only then naked may she enter eternity
Jace Stewart
You are a really shitty Mod and should be really ashamed of yourself for allowing all sorts of crap but not good threads
Gavin Nguyen
Mods loves BBC
Brayden Miller
hahahahahaha what does that have to do with ishtar? and it was in the late 90s/early 2000s, not 80s
Isaiah Adams
The etymology of whore is beloved, dear.
Is it any surprise the 1st Sin is the Moon Goddess?
Josiah Wilson
>Is it any surprise the 1st Sin is the Moon Goddess? xplain
Brandon Russell
Sin is the name for the moon Goddess.
The Moon Goddess is accompanied by Lucifer and Vesper (morning and evening star)
Alexander Thompson
Sin appears to be male, also this is retarded, english appeared a lot later
Luke Gutierrez
Sorry I didn't realise you were so erudite. I shant go on.
Angel Jones
Maybe you should go ask /x/ You'll get a lot of schizzoids, but it's better than this quarantine trash board
Camden Morris
im not, i just googled it to check what you told me
Daniel Jones
Sin, or Suen is related to her, from the same side of the archon family tree, which probably where the confusion in association comes from