The thought of being close with a girl

I have dreams like this about my ex girlfriends. In an alternate universe where I didn't fuck things up and let my fake nihilism ruin my life

Get hookers. Once sex is no longer a scary unknown, talking to girls will be easier

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I am not scared of sex at all. More scared of my first kiss tbqh, if it ever even happens that is.

>just devalue sex until it doesn't matter and your life is even more of an empty shell

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>tfw had gfs and regular sex since teens
just be you'reselfs bros

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I fucking hate this board and all the little kids who’ve made it into a sfw bastard child of /s/ and Jow Forums

I actually don't know if I want a gf.

I'm 25 and I'm so used to being alone and doing everything alone that I simply can't even fathom having an actual "partner".
I can't imagine going to sleep and actually have an another human being an inch beside me. I can't imagine walking the streets while holding hands with someone else. I can't imagine walking into my parents house with a girl beside me, and I'm pretty sure not even my parents would know how to respond to that. It all seems extremely weird and alien to me. Even if I somehow miraculously met a girl that is interested in me, I couldn't just call her over to my place to "watch movies", I'm too damn self-aware of my situation and I couldn't play that normie meaningless small talk charade of "hey you will like this movie it's pretty good, got some popcorn too hehe" where I assume both people are completely aware that the movie is entirely irrelevant and you're there just to fuck.
Not to mention that I over analyzed kissing to such a degree that if I ever even get to experience my first kiss it will be inevitably be done 100% manually like a damn robot machine. And sex seems like a totally other wordly act altogether.

It's quite devastating to know that the vast majority of people never had to give a single thought into any of these things and it all just happened naturally for them, while I have to completely deconstruct any interaction I have in complete detail for days.
Is there any hope, can this be averted?

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>tfw no dream gf
Fuck what next

I miss them feels.

I felt similar, although when I got a gf (at 22) our first kiss was kind of awkward and I didn't feel anything but as we continued on I began to really enjoy looking into her eyes and freely grabbing her body. Kissing felt quite natural after a bit, even quite playful as I could just do what feels right to me.

what if ur wrong about everything u just said? :)

Wrong about what, that I actually don't worry about any of that? That I actually don't overanalyze every single interaction I have?

jesus user

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>dream a girl confessed to me by message
>happy but cautiously optimistic
>go walk to the gym
>she's on the way
>oh hey, I saw your messages before, I never thought you felt that way
>what?
>mfw she says her friends stole her phone
>mfw can't even have a dream gf

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I want nothing more than to fuck a fat blob of a man after making him get up and waddle towards me. While I'm riding this over-fed guy, I want to feed him decadent treats, making him consume thousands of calories before I let him cum. I want him to smother me in his obesity so that I'm just drowning in fleshy pounds of lard. He'll tell me how hungry he is while he rests his massive weight on me, how he needs to grow just a little bigger, how he can still consume thousands of more calories.

There are a couple of memories with this one girl from my early teens that I still remember and make me smile.

One where we were doing something at school where we ended up walking through town on a really cold day for nearly an hour and she came and slipped her arm into mine and held me close and we talked and laughed the whole way with friends. She was also my first real "date" when I was younger and we went to the fair in the summer and held hands the whole day and ended up kissing at the end. They both sound kind of queer, but I didn't appreciate at the time how genuine those interactions were back then. One of the few people in my life that I genuinely believe loved me (at some point). We could go a year or two without seeing eachother and then spark something back up the moment with crossed paths. Haven't seen her in years now though and still think about her. Not in a mopey way though, just nostalgic.

T-this counts right g-guys

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L O N D O N?

>can't even imagine myself in that position anymore

what the fuck have i become

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Have sex, legitimately
I refuse to believe someone can be such a fucking faggot

Never even kissed a girl my whole life. Not a single date or anything like that.

By the age 25 the anger and frustration slowly gets replaced by growing indifference.

>been alone for so long the thought of a girl liking me over the thousands of other men in my city alone is completely alien
anyone else know tf

Seriously. Why the hell do all of you assholes bring this "tfw no gf" crap and all its variants to a fitness board?
This has literally NOTHING to do with fitness. At all.

Honestly, how new are you?

didn't help, I'm still an autistic idiot spilling spaghetti every time I talk to a cute girl

yeah me to user don't worry

I legitimately hate women, not a virgin and not socially awkward, I just fucking hate them

the thought of going on a date and having to have in depth conversations with another person terrifies me because they will see what a loser i am. i cant imagine doing it once let alone repeatedly.

Not new at all. Just real tired of this crap clogging up the board.
Now answer me: what the hell does any of this have to do with fitness? I'm genuinely morbidly curious, because none of you fags can ever muster up a straight answer.
Isn't enough for these guys to have their own containment boards? Why even come here?

lurk more

Have more sex.

What if you went through two 6 year relationships and now you refuse to compromise for a woman so you'd rather stay single and comfy?

I asked someone what they did over the fourth of July and the tone they had when they said they don't celebrate it reminded me that I'm absolutely not willing to be with someone with even a slightly different world view or interests than mine

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The sad thing is, this is not just happening to you, or just to men. Our whole society is becoming disconnected. I keep thinking about those scenes in Neon Genesis Evangelion where the pilot looses their synch rate and the monitor shows the circuits disconnecting. I think the world is becoming like that. I'm 40, all of the guys in our office are over 30, and only half are married (all the marrieds are 50+)

A large part of getting fit is for the social benefits - girls, respect, or preferential treatment. Part of discussing this can be confirming that fitness does help these things, and allowing us to then look past that to see what our internal limitations are.

Clearly you don’t have friends either and it’s fucked you up a bit. Remember when you were a kid and wanted to show your parents everything? That’s kind of like how it feels if you genuinely want to watch a movie with your gf. I’ve never avoided talking about sex desu, I don’t think anyone really does like you describe. I just say, “I want to see you,” if it’s that simple, but a lot of stuff is better when you have someone you can always go with, so going out isn’t just an excuse.

Also, I’d never been with a girl in any capacity before 22. The only reason that changed was because I radically changed my life by getting Jow Forums and volunteering overseas for 6 months. I don’t even look much better than I did then, it’s just my confidence that’s improved.

just downloaded grindr boys
there was a really cute twink
I messaged him and thought I'd need to make small talk but nope, he was literally instantly down
fuck bros

Obviously the social benefits aren't kicking in for a lot of you, so maybe you're wrong?
Fitness can help of course, but not directly. The reason it's supposed to help is because somewhere along the way you guys are supposed to be learning certain lessons that can help you with socially, with girls, etc. Stuff like
>a sense of accomplishment
>comfort in your own skin, translating to increased confidence
>feeling good physically which should carry over to your emotional and mental state
>actually looking good
Now for some reason a lot you are either not internalizing these lessons or not learning them to begin with. It's not the act of working out on its own that is supposed to make you magically successful with women but what you learn from it. So somewhere along the line a lot of you are doing something wrong.
It also doesn't help that a lot of you don't work out to begin with, you just watch your "motivational" Zyzz videos from 10 years ago and gather here to have pity parties with other losers and post sad wojaks.

Yeah, once you realize their main life purpose is to lure a provider dick into their puss and strip him of all the life's freedoms by popping out a child you kinda start resenting them

WITH YOUR FEET ON THE AIR AND YOUR HEAD ON THE GROUND

>about a year ago
>started going to the gym, running SS like a virgin
>after a few months, see her
>perfect facial features, was basically Hitler's ideal for how an Aryan woman should look, 10/10 breeding stock
>dressed modestly and not like a gymthot, usually a baggy white shirt and black sweatpants with her blonde hair pulled into a ponytail
>only problem is she looked to be about 16-17 and would always be with her mom (who was still very attractive and young looking for someone I presume was in her early-mid 40s)
>end up never talking to her because i'm an autistic fuck
>move several states away and no my chances of ever seeing her or someone anywhere near as perfect as her are basically 0%
why couldn't I have been born in an age where it would have been acceptable for me to just ask her parents for her hand in marriage FUCK
now the only women that live around me are old, used up roasties with tattoos and mutt children

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>makes no attempt
>fails

shut up he has a pretty mind!

Read this Jow Forums

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all i ever hear about is not giving a girl too much attention, don't always be available, don't show a bunch of interest because all it all does is come off as desperation which girls dont like and you come off as a massive beta orbiter

so as a result i show them no attention, no interest, and go nowhere. lol

Casual sex with a cool girl is incredibly fulfilling and most stories you read on Jow Forums about "I used to be a loser but then I became Chad and I'm still miserable" are at best completely misrepresenting the satisfaction and at most realistically are just LARPs.

The trick is to be hot enough that the mom’s into you too, and then hit on both of them

>Isn't enough for these guys to have their own containment boards? Why even come here?

You people are truly incredible

>you always claim how cancerous these "containment boards" are for their ideologies
>how all they do is just wallow in self pity together and never improve
>these people then try to branch out and go to more supportive places to get advice that arent just pits of misery
>then get told to stop talking about their terrible lives and how pathetic they all are and go back to their containment boards

that everything you think will go wrong might actually not be that bad, a la . I also tend to overthink intimate situations but with practice things have come more naturally to me. Yeah, you'll spill your spaghetti sometimes but you have so much potential to grow. I don't want to see you giving up on something you haven't even tried yet.

update
neither of us could host so he offered to give me car head in a shady street
I uninstalled the app

I appreciate you giving an update despite no one replying
You should have went for it desu

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Smart move user

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Just forget about it, OP
Women just... It's not worth it
You spend years with one and then suddey, so fast, she just leaves you for no good or shitty reason, just poof. Gone
And you spend the next few months crying your heart out and nothing changes. She never returns your calls
And all you do is dream of her and keep her tshirt bysides you because you have gone mentally insane over a girl who couldn't even care less about you now
This is what having a gf/wife feels like
We are cursed to go through this hell
No amount of pl8s can fix this

Orbiting simply is a tell for anxiety and loneliness, so it’s unattractive, but being over-eager is pure awkwardness fuel for both sexes. Neither party likes unrequited feelings, and it seems to me that feelings develop slowly for most people. Don’t confuse lust for infatuation, or infatuation for love.

You’re taking that advice too literally. You should instead try to become experienced and jaded enough that you don’t have to pretend.

Story of my life
But how would you even go about approaching someone in the gym? Everyone said doing it's creepy, but there would have been no other place where I could have met this person

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>Implying these guys ever actually take the advice.

>thinking about girls late at night
>haven't touched one in 3 years
>wonder what it would feel like to touch one
>hold one
>kiss one
>grip one
>bite one
My wet dreams are even more horrific.
I am legitimately afraid of my sex drive which has been suppressed since 8th grade by my ADHD stims.
How the fuck do I deal without taking more of my meds? I want off this ride.

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This. Casual sex with uggos and autismqueens is worse than a waste of time.

Hire professionals...

The board has been this way for years niggerfaggot. It's only recently that complaints of it has emerged . You're probably someone who's only been here for only a couple years and act like you own the place right?

Don't listen to what everyone said, that's for people who are ugly, just relate to your own experiences. Try just making casual interaction with girls and leave the window open if she wants to go further.

22 yo kv in progress my best friends a stripper.

It’s is weird. It simply can’t be done unless your looks and charm are enough to overcome the weirdness, but even then it’ll hamstring you. If your gym has a cafe that’s a perfect spot, or you could just time it so you leave at the same time

damn, checked and relatable
keep your chin up, daddy

Man I was like that until 25. There's hope but you have to hit therapy and start doing stuff every day to get out of that state. It is doable but you are gonna suffer for a while. Just embrace the struggle, I believe in you.

Any way to stop wanting to put a gun in your mouth every time you see a girl in the gym. Need a gym like guy heaven.

I was just looking for one of these shit threads to psych myself up.

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ask her if she does extras

Hey mods why is this r9k shit still up?

Hookers

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Asked her if she wanted to do femdom shit and she said she might in the future but probably no.

>dude fuck these people for coming here with their shit stay in your bubbles
>but what about trying to get help from better people
>NO THEY DON'T TAKE ME ADVICE FUCK OFF

Where do you get them? TER?

So you and your boyfriends here have been pathetic losers for years with no change in sight...and you're proud of this?!?

Tell her next time she's done with her night, don't go to the bathroom and meet up with her after and have her piss in your mouth and drink every drop

mental/emotional health and fitness :)

You're clearly intelligent person user and i guess your problem is what the woman will think of your actions. Intelligent women will understand you/Unironically massive whores but not dumb women, some (a lot actually) will find it endearing and even preferable to be your first. Throw your shots and those women will find you (unless you're really ugly).

How did you know I like piss?

Faggot shoulda got ur dicked sucked

so if i understand correctly you have to somehow know the middle ground between not caring enough and caring too much

Fuck off. If anything I was too generous in my assessment. You guys not only don't take advice, you don't even ask for it. Just look at the OP of this very thread:
>posts wojack
>"the thought of being close with a girl"
And that's literally it. What the hell are we supposed to work with?
Also, you retards have taken perfectly rational, sound advice that has worked for years and had the nerve to make little snarky memes out of them.
>just be confident bro
>beee yourself!
That would be a good start for a lot of you, but let's pretend that a bunch of socially isolated NEET weirdos who are probably barely out of high school in a lot of cases know more about life than people who have been there but actually made it out.
It's obviously taken you guys far in life so far, better stick with what works right?

i have no idea what your rambling even has to do with the original point. people like you think they will never take advice from people in better positions, yet you dont even want to give it to them because you think these retards should just stay in their isolation boards filled with misery and never even go places where normal people are. great logic.

Yes. It’s not something that can read be explained or taught, like socialising in general. You’ll probably have to fuck up a few times to figure it out. Doing literally nothing is fucking up

I’m in the same situation. I’m only 20 but every year without a gf goes by I get more used to it

>desu
Are you physically unable to ooze out autism every time you post?

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They can come here to learn or talk about fitness, but leave the isolation board behind them when they do. There is already one r9k, we don't need two.

I think everybody secretly likes piss

what do you like about it?

i always wonder if the porn stars or even amateur girls who make "squirting" videos like piss and just dont want to outwardly admit it