When did steroid use become so unbelievably common place in lifting and how are people so comfortable with lying about...

>the ultimate roider cope
Genetics determine insertions but other than that if you take drugs that make your muscles big your muscles are going to get big

who cares? some people want likes so bad they’ll shorten their life. natural selection

where do I buy roids?

>When did steroid use become so unbelievably common place in lifting
2010s self improvement autism.

Jow Forums culture, unironically. You're to blame with your spam and impossible to reach ideals.

blame hollyjew for promoting twinks on roids, giving all men and women an unrealistic standard for what the human body should look like

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It's internet lifters, not Hollywood though. Before the 2010s, nobody gave a shit about squats and Brad Pitt in Fight Club was the ideal for the normal man. Nowadays, even 80s Arnold would be considered suboptimal.

Just follow the natty ones instead

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It is more common than you think, and as far as the lying about it goes, I would say it seems to be because the questions that follow after admitting to steroid use is often, where did you get them?, how much did it cost? and can you get me some?. This has been my experience and it becomes irritating.

Since discovery, gear has been in for culture

its definitely internet lifters too, but it doesn't help when extremely popular franchises like avengers have a cast of 6 twinks on roids, and now every chick on earth thinks 3D delts and 8% bodyfat is the ideal

ok?
literal foaming-at-the-mouth retard

Nice example for unrealistic standards. Obvious roider but you will never admit it.

It really is Hollywood though, just look at Marvel movies and the Fast and Furious series

Depends on where you live, try to find out on local bb forums. In case of OP's pic, the dude is eastern European, it's pretty much legal and you can buy them online or just ask your doctor for test. Even shit that was banned by FDA in like the 70s and 80s is still widely available in Europe.

They roid because internet lifters created the environment where roiding is the norm.

That Valerian movie? Flopped in the US literally because Americans didn't believe someone with his build could be a soldier.

>They roid because internet lifters created the environment where roiding is the norm.
dude normies don't give a shit about bodybuilding culture on the internet

>work out autistically with little to no breaks
>eat like a pro BB counting macros and kcal
>being sore all the time
>having shit recovery and low energy after hard workouts and on cuts
>look decent but never as big as you want

OR

>pin once a week and live your life normally
>lift occasionally when you feel like it
>look like natty limit

why would anyone not roid honestly ? I dont want to be a fucking autist, I dont want to count my kcal or go to the gym 4x+ every single week. I can just pin and go whenever I feel like it and still look better than I ever did natty.

Marvel movies are post Jow Forums.

Fast and Furious? Vin Diesel would never make it today (Gyno, manlet, bald, weak chin etc.). F&F 1 Diesel would be considered skinnyfat today, pic related.

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Why would you spread this falsehood?

you are a fucking idiot. NEVER forget that.

Dude, Fast and Furious 1 is literally 18 years old. I'm obviously referring to the recent ones.

That's where you're wrong. Even professional S&C coaches just parrot Jow Forums and reddit memes nowadays.

Do you even lift bro? Dude is obviously natty.

1) literally not me, just some french dude on IG
2) That's LITERALLY natty

>professional S&C coaches
those aren't normies you idiot, i'm talking about the general population

I find it a stretch that steroids fueled physiques being normalized has much to do with autists on the internet
>vs
the entirety of the media and Hollywood which has largest reach of societal impact to the point where they virtually can control the culture of society

this, either you spend ridiculous amounts of time in the gym, preparing food, worrying about intermediate programming and other shit. OR you just pin once a week. how is that a hard trade off ? You have to dedicate your entire life if you want to look good as a natty whereas on roids you can just live your life normally and you look the same as nattys who are autistic about working out.

I dont see the problem user, I just want to live my life and have fun. I did the natty thing but really it's just too hard and you have to make too many sacrifices if you really wanna look good.

>this, either you spend ridiculous amounts of time in the gym, preparing food, worrying about intermediate programming and other shit
LMAO @ you thinking any of this is hard

There isn't a downside to limited steroid use, I plan on doing it myself.

The laws in the US are retarded though, thank Biden for exploiting a families stupidity and desperation to offload blame.

post body, right fucking now

No he isn't. You're just meme victims.

Then nobody who lifts is a normie, making this discussion useless.

You now realize that spending 8+ hours online is the new normal in the 2010s.

You mean the post Jow Forums ones? Yeah, thanks for proving my point.

>thinking Jow Forums had any influence on the fucking Fast and Furious movies
yeah I sure proved your point buddy, you won

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>Jow Forums and bodybuilding.com have larger societal and cultural impact than hollywood media

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post body because I dont think you know the difference between natty or not

>being this delusional
what happened to Jow Forums?

Life time natural here, thinking about doing one cycle just to push the natty limit up a bit.

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summerfags + newfags

post body
also post what you think the natty limit is

>When did steroid use become so unbelievably common place in lifting
it always has been, there has never been a time since the 40's that steroids haven't been used
stop being a butt hurt faggot and either shut up about it or jump on cycle

Doesn't seem THAT insane to achieve natty

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>pushing the natty limit by not being natty
>this is the dude with 3D delts in every thread claiming he's natty

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I lift for my health you dense motherfucker

>Instant gratification

t. never done a cycle in his life

I hope to god he's not on gear because he's look like shit and if you think this is "unattainable" then I hate to think how bad you look

>looks like shit

post body

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More instant than doing it without a cycle you brainlet

Steroids should be legal just so these fuckheads stop warping people's expectations on natty lifting

This motherfucker thinks basic mathematics and eating is hard
This is the average roider gentleman

That is why training is not for you.
Just do it. Pin and fuck tinder sluts.
I wish all you incels stayed away from us.
You will not make it. Not in lifting not in life. Now please go inject some oily manhood.

Apparently you haven't been on Instagram

instagram was made in 2010 and this has been a thing since the early 2000s

that dude is obviously not on juice you dyel newfag

So you admit you're a lazy fuck who doesn't even like working out and you're in it for all the wrong reasons, AND you're proud of it?!

I'm not even natty, but seriously, KYS. You are everything that's wrong with this board and with fitness in general.

>lifting is a hobby
Not gonna make it.

What I meant was to push the limit of what you can reach off celltech.
Also my delts are meh, partially the reason as to why I'm considering it.

Agreed, I think it's more the autists on the internet being too easily influenced by these movies.
Also, instagram in this context is closer to the movies in terms of cultural influence than weirdo incel hangouts like misc, reddit, and Jow Forums, even though it's part of the internet.

>an hour a day couple times a week
>"ridiculous amounts of time"
You weak, brainless, lazy motherfucker.

This board is the cause alone.

THIS is the board that needed to get shut down. Not 8 chan.

Exactly this. The "lifting for women" meme is actually the most truthful thing on Jow Forums. Lifting is about developing dedication, hard work and delaying gratification.

These dudes like in OPs pic are only continuing down the same shitty path they've been on, but just pressing the accelerator.
They might fuck a few 8/10 whores, get compliments from some normies at wal-mart, and feel good for 4 months when they look in the mirror.

But those things are all fleeting and will be gone in under a decade. Whats left is a totally hollow shell, that has been instilled with very little-to-no values or self love. They will be the dudes at 58 saying "man you shouldve seen me when I was 22", full of health issues that a 78 year old should be having.

And then there's everybody else who took the path of actual growth.

To be clear I don't have a problem with doing a little test when you're a bit older, but people have totally forgotten about moderation with these chemicals, and are doing them for all the wrong reasons.

That makes me sick. I pin on trt but my ass in the gym 6 days a week because it's what I love, and the try allows me to push myself harder and without it, I had low test levels.

I seriously wish I could kill you and your type of people with my bare hands. You make me physically recoil.

You just want to pin and not have to work out. Fucking disgusting. Working out is the reason I get out of bed in the morning..

"I dont want to work the job, I just want to get the paycheck"

You are a gross, lazy, modern, artificial nigger.

Good post.
Nobody values the process anymore. All they do is autistically look at the results and nothing else.

>gross, lazy, modern, artificial nigger.
kek

Not if you already reached your natty limits and used gear to surpass them.

Omega cope

why do his abs look weird?

i think it started all about money and the fake natty shit to sell their retarded program; this guy looks so shredded and is natural -> dyel teens get the program and the "natural" natty get the big cash.
today now are all "natural" fitness experts and want to sell their shit or want fucking thots; disgusting.

he would even look good if he didnt roid

>When did steroid use become so unbelievably common place in lifting
For adults it blew up in the 60s and 70s, the bodybuilding scene went crazy over it. Arnold and guys like him obviously were leading the charge there. But then you have the 2000's where you don't even need a person you know to get you gear, you can buy it yourself and pretty easily. It's very easy to become anonymous these days.

Nah this has gotten significantly worse in the past 5-10 years since social media became all anybody cared about

>this board needs to be shut down
I'm starting to non-ironically believe this.

Incel replies, OP never said he did not want to lift, he implies he already tried sacrificing everything to look decent

See Social media has mad it so much worse. All anybody cares about is being validated by their peers anymore. Nobody cares about the self love that comes from working hard and having dedication.

based and truthpilled

I've been natty lifting 7 years and my ffmi is barely 22. If I don't keep up 7 hours a week forever then it won't take anywhere near age 58 for me to be the should've seen me at 22 guy. Natty is a meme, I actually despise that roids even exist.

The problem is too many roiders don't admit they roid. Then normies expect all lifters to look as good as roiders. This has been accelerating for decades and with social media is happening even faster than ever.

yeah but why? who sets the standard? Social media is reflecting something, and that is what popular actors and actresses look like. Never said that social media/internet doesn't influence culture, but to say they're the culprit is to say the tail wags the dog

Thats exactly what every underachiever on this earth says "but its so hard!" "I literally lifted for a whole six months!" Meanwhile they never even read more than a paragraph on dieting.

Also nice projection on the incel thing, faggot.

Even when they do its this new cope, its just trt/only a little bit shit like . Its disgusting. You don't get back in the natty club.

There's probably a lot of truth in that, I never thought about it that way.

So the root of the problem is Jews in Hollywood as usual. And social media has just magnified it.

Look into who owns social media. Surprise!

Is bloatgod natty?

So me having a medical condition in which my body produced a test level of 80 makes you sick? Yeah it made me sick too. Yeah it makes me sick too to have to be on trt. But it's what I have to do. I'm a person who actually needed the therapy. not some faggot just trying to get legal steroids.

Roiders don't do this, they lift for a year or two and get annoyed they don't look like a freak
No, you don't reach natty limit in 2 years

he's natty. Manlets just look huge in solo pictures.

it can be achieved naty, if you train 4 to 6 hours everyday for a few years.
It's the body of a professional athlete.
Or it can be reached with gear by going to the gym 3 times a week for little more than a year

IMO taking roids has been normalized way too much nowadays. Just look at the roiders on youtube talking about their cycles and recieving tons of credit for "keeping it real" and "telling the truth".

Retarded women and normie guys also thinking every instagram buff dude and youtuber, not to mention moviestar, who claims natty actually being natty makes your average gym goer's gains look like it's nothing. I can imagine quite a number of natties taking the roid pill just because they want their hard work to actually look like something worth admiring.

Roiding is easy and actually not expensive if you just do a normal stack and not a pro bodybuilder's drug routine. People also don't worry about losing everything post cycle and think they can keep most of it.

How can something be post Jow Forums if fit isn't done. You cant take your post-workout if you havent finished working out
>Inb4 post as in postmodernism
If that is the case then...GTFO MY FUCKING BOARD YOU FAGGOT