Anyone lift themselves into higher sexual market value? What did you do with it?

Mate, you honestly need to watch all 12 episodes of The Black Phillip Show. I've been spouting this occasionally on Jow Forums after I saw some other user mention Patrice O'Neal, but it isn't getting much traction, or the replies I get usually are
>getting advice from a fat dead nigger
I am not exaggerating when I say this - your view on life and relationships will change. Just listen to anything you can find from Patrice. Everything that man said was the fucking gospel.
I wish he wasn't such a fucking idiot when it came to his own health. Men will always need such a leader.

I agree but you can thank other women for this phenomenon

>Sarah's husband doesn't make her work!
That's why they have to live frugally
>Jennifer's husband helps with all of the chores!
He also is a bitch that does everything his wife commands and she has no respect for him
>Ashley doesn't have to do any laundry!
That's because she does a majority of the other chores

No matter what angle you take women will find someone to compare to and use that as leverage to excuse their shitty behavior

this
patrice is a fucking legend

If you bring all the money home and she doesnt work she should do all the fucking chores at home, and thats a fact lads.

Why does she live with you? Did you invite her to move in with you?

Not really, I got pretty girls before I started lifting and I still get the same.
Pretty much all of them focus on how handsome I am, and when it comes to body they say "nice, you're so handsome".
Some girl asked me to model for her and some company she's working for.
What a crazy world we're living in.

I feel identified with her. In my case I just dont have energy, im paralysed. I feel work is too exhausting, talking to people in general. When I go home I just want to sleep and chill.
The only thing that worked for me was when I became vegetarian and frutarian. I had more energy, but then later I had no muscles.

Is it depression? Or something common for a woman with no child?
I think the hormones also bring you down.

I also feel it is because I got isolated. My boyfriend at the beginning was very jealous, so I stopped having male friends. Eventually only girl friends, but got tired of them too.
I feel no motivation to dress pretty for him, since he does not care about society.
Too complex to discuss. Sorry for the rambling.
Btw im not fat im 52 kg, 1.67 m. Im just skinny fat.

Yeah. I was a 2. Then I got lean, got a haircut, shave, got new clothes and now I'm a solid 5.

Not trying to be a dick but this is LITERALLY EVERYONE.

Do you think men feel like doing this stuff either? It's all about discipline and creating your own motivation. Stop making excuses and do what has to be done.

based

shut up tranny

Yeah, you are right user. I know I have to change.

The fuck kind of entitled women you guys are fucking? My past 3 girls have been nothing short of hardworking, emphatic, and reasonable people. My current one pampers me like a baby I feel useless compared to her sometimes. Stop with this incel echochamber, find better women instead.

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Go back to /pol

>I feel no motivation to dress pretty for him, since he does not care about society.
U wot

>Are all women like this?
no, but the shit women are.

have sex

It's important to remember that women are ostensibly a block of clay.
They're dumb, weak, and open to suggestion in a way that men aren't.
I would consider myself fairly average looking and lifting helped make me look less like a skinny faggot but it mostly stops being much of a benefit after getting your foot in the door.
Lifting is first and foremost an undertaking that benefits (you).
Picking up women is like catching bass, the less you try the harder they bite.
Sometimes you have to let that popper float and just look down on a bitch.

there are no women on 4channel tranny you & your faggot boyfriend should kys yourselves

Man, my mom used to do that with my dad throughout all the time I lived with them (and probably still does) and it drove me fucking mad. It's insanity-tier cherry picking.
>Well, Peter always takes care of [thing]
Yeah, because taking care of [thing] is his hobby. On top of that, Peter's wife also has a job and actually loves her husband so he happily grants her favors.

Jesus fuck. I am pretty sure all bitching I had to listen to throughout my whole youth left some severe mental damage.

Not really, I stayed with him during his worst times. Is only recently that he has been doing relatively good. It is also tiring to have an inmature boyfriend and to wait until he grows up.

I agree with the general sentiment, but it's not like they grow on trees. Pretty hard to find women that are like that and are single & interested on top of it.

guess what retard? YOU chose a fat lazy bitch to be your live in girlfriend. and now that the fat lazy bitch is doing fat lazy bitch shit, you’re upset. does this make sense to you?

a relationship is more than just being physically present

She is clearly better than you in every way. When you realize why, it will be too late and she be jammin with another.

Depression

No everyone's experience is different don't let the words trick you. What needs just a little pushing/motivation for you, is a huge mountain that leaves others drained. Be considerate of others they are doing their best

Agreed, she doesn't even have to try because she feels safe with her lap dog bf. You are her bitch OP. Your money and muscle can't change this

even if that were true (which it might, but probably not as universally as you assume), it doesn't change shit. you still have to deal with it, it's your life that will be fucked up if you don't. if you put zero effort into your relationship just because you don't feel like it right now, don't be surprised if the other person leaves you. it's give and take

It's because you have an unfulfilling job. Women took the inscription on the gates of auswitz too seriously, work will NOT set you free. Have a few children, stay at home with them for their formative years and your life will be significantly more fulfilling

That I agree with. I'm just very careful with value judgments about others. Everyone thinks his life experience and whatever makes him click (or not) is universal and pushes it on to others

you do t think your boyfriend is an alpha male so you don’t feel compelled to be the best version of your self. Sad!

I used to be 210lbs and got down to 160lbs(still losing). When I realized my 300lb boyfriend was making no effort to improve himself in any meaningful way(he worked minimum wage, would get fired ever few months from different low entry retail/fastfood jobs and he just kept getting fatter) I realized I had to end it.

It hurts to end things but everyone needs a partner that aligns with their most important values.

You can actually train your partner to be a better person if you know what buttons to push. Check out Patrice o neal's videos on relationships.

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In the words of the late Patrice O'Neal :
"Put on your best suit even if you're going to the grocery store for bread."
Make her know that you can get a piece of ass, anytime.
If she's acting like that, she's secure that you won't dump her

You are a bitch but you are right. You probably dragged him down without any of you realizing it

Good for you. People tend to forget the obvious implication of being in a partnership, it's work on both ends it is not something one sided.

She's your GF, dump her and choose wife material

>Anyone lift themselves into higher sexual market value?

good 1 m9

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Watch Ronin Man videos.

youtu.be/7GxzOVgdWMA

There we go. Not only did I do myself good, I probably did him a favour as well. Everyone is in a better position. Hopefully, OP can see the good in letting go of his GF as well.

>Feels useless
>Calls us incels

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>Meanwhile
>gf got slighty fatter
>did get her to work out but only does it 2 days a week. Can't get her up early to work out with me.
>basically sleeps when not working
>whines about the minor chores she has to do
>dresses horribly now
>she has no desire to improve herself and is basically coasting.

Many such cases!

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t. Butt hurt incel

This is depression/anxiety.

Dump your BF, work on yourself as a single person, figure out what the fuck you want and go get it. If it's a family and children or a creative career or a more fulfilling social life then make the efforts to obtain that.

Also, lift. Whether you are a man or a woman, you should lift. There are studies that show being physically stronger makes you mentally stronger.

Good luck user.

>People tend to forget the obvious implication of being in a partnership, it's work on both ends it is not something one sided.
had that with my last relationship. I was already thinking of ending it myself because it was so onesided when she went "user, we have to talk"
got the "it's not you, it's me" speech and I was really fucking tempted to tell her yeah, it absolutely was her.

You should’ve said it was definitely her and then just left. No time for her to respond and counter you

I held back because she's best friends with a good friend of mine and I didn't want it to lead to any bad blood. I'd take losing that friend really badly, she's the one person I can be completely open with.

Based and patricepilled

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Dump her. She sounds like a nightmare.

A big reason that men cheat on women is because woman basically decide they "got" the man, and think that male sexual attraction is analogous to theirs (i.e. once the looks get you in the door, it's personality stuff only).
The issue is that men always need visuals, so as the gf gets fatter and fatter because her man just "loves" her silly quirks and how she's not like other girls teehee, he feels that she doesn't give a fuck about him or his needs anymore.
Resentment builds, then cheating follows. I've seen it time and time again.
WOMEN, DON'T GET FAT.

Then if she pulls that shit, dump her and tell her to get the fuck out of your house.

Calm down incel

>every thread like this is generally either incel doomposting about how universally terrible women are or "Chad here, just slap her with your 3 foot cock, works for me"
>even the more level headed people all agree that you have to constantly guide and shape the woman while clawing your way through shit test after shit test
>very few people seem to have a normal, fair, and rational woman that's ok with just enjoying life together without a constant fight to keep her in line
I'll be honest, I'm already just fine living alone, and even the best case scenario for a relationship sounds like a continuous, mentally draining endeavor. Doesn't sound worth it unless you are genuinely in pain from being alone. And this is before you account for western marriage law.

>Are all women like this?

My ex was like this.

I let her move in with me but charged her no rent. She was always trying to "nest" by redecorating and expanding her aesthetic into more and more of the house. But she never would pull her weight when it came to basic chores. That aversion to doing dishes, or any household cleaning at all was infuriating:

>Clothes piled in the bedroom, bathroom, hallway, laundry room. Used dishes scattered everywhere. Wouldn't take her shoes off inside. Bathroom in a perpetual state of disorganized clutter with her stuff.

I absolutely believe it's a conditioned response to anything they perceive to be domestic chores. Western women have grown up inundated in a feminist philosophy that associates negative feelings with housewife habits.

For men, it's a bit different. I think the blurring of gender roles has made men more willing to take up domestic chores. Additionally, men living on their own see a clean and organized room as the first step towards self-improvement and sorting themselves out. So unlike women, men have positive feelings associated with keeping things clean.

With my ex, I noticed she would actually do chores occasionally, but only if I started tidying things up myself. Then she would join in and say something like
>Oh, I was about to get to that.
>Oh, I meant to clean those dishes, but I just didn't have time this week.

When she'd join in and "help", her cleaning efforts would always be minimal, but she'd get offended when I'd redo whatever areas or dishes she'd worked on, since they'd often still be filthy. It was as if she sincerely believed she had thoroughly cleaned a floor or a sink after a quick brooming or rinse. Again, this suggests a conditioned behavior. I think in her eyes, cleaning is a ritual rather than a practical task. Like a cargo cult, she goes through the motions and then believes the deed is done.

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Thing is these women in question for the majority of these threads are just ''girlfriends'' not wives, so some people are lenient and attempt to fix the situation while others are quick to jump ship with the logic of girlfriend/boyfriend relationships are easy to get in and out of and there aren't any long term obligations, this is why the advice you'll see vary A LOT.

>gf got slighty fatter
congrats!

if you find one of those "rational woman that's ok with just enjoying life together without a constant fight to keep her in line" it's definitely worth it.
just don't make the mistake of tying yourself to a shit woman just so you have any woman at all.

user, I was you 2 years ago. After 7 years she thought she could coast, become fat, and basically do the minimum because she felt comfortable while I was working my ass off (100k career, repairing "fixer upper" house, weightlifting). I picked up Japanese to keep myself busy and just continue on putting shit together... Fast forward to today: my career is taking off, my house has 150k equity, I'm in the best shape of my life, and I just got back from a trip to Japan hooking up with a couple girls I met online (God damn Japanese women are freaks in bed). Life is fucking great. Dump that ho. If she's anything like my ex she'll continue to devolve to a drunk fat mess. She's not your problem to fix.

OP here again, just need some enlightenment here. Maybe my mindset is wrong but.....

As a man, my main job to be successful and be as skilled in as many areas as I can. Now I feel I have throughly achieved this with still more room to expand. 30 years ago I would be top of the market. Now women somehow come to expect this. Not only that but now it's excepted to help them with their bullshit. Is it wrong for me to expect some respect? I feel like none of the men get this now.

>>After 7 years she thought she could coast, become fat, and basically do the minimum
>female colleague told me about her bf and what red lines he drew for their relationship
>said she'll just wait 3 or 4 more years before she does it anyway because "by that time he'll be too old to ditch me anyway"
Some of them really don't get that man's biological clock ticks more slowly.

You're not a fucking drone and relationships go both ways. If she only takes and never gives anything, it's not worth being with her.
Granted, if you live in a bigger Western city you will have some problems finding single women who understand this, but the extra time it takes looking for them is definitely worth it compared to staying with some cunt who only ever does the bare minimum, if anything at all.

Actually I don't even get how they can live like that. Whenever I'm with someone I actually care about I'm filled to the brim with motivation because I want to be the best me I can possibly be for them. It's when I'm without a partner that I let things spiral out of control because I cannot be arsed to deal with them anymore.

Post 1 blurred face image of a girl youve slept with u fucking larper

>be me
>be with ok looking thin girl with nice ass
>she's shy and kind of afraid of male attention, seems to think im great though
>over the course of a few years she develops super large uterine fibroids that make her look permanently fat/pregnant (shit was like bowling ball sized by the end)
>because of this she only ever wants to hide her body from men, including me at times, like wearing oversized hoodies 24/7
>finally gets it surgically removed, looks slim af overnight
>loses even more body weight over the coming months, even dat ass
>decides she's no longer embarrassed by her body and wants to show it off
>becomes a stripper and ends the relationship because she wants to "fuck other people"
well that was 8 years well spent

Yeah i wish i was a normie who grew up in a healthy environment too

>that last part
lel, I didn't see that one coming. my condolences, user.

Yes. I've mentally surpassed most of mankind, and not strictly because of lifting. I've always been a sigma type, and throwing myself into a strenuous lifestyle sets me apart even more. Women don't approach me, nor do I approach them. Men often check themselves against me until they realize I don't want their stuff or women, then it is very cordial. I have no further interest in sex. I am training to survive and surpass everything, and hopefully God someday appoints me to swing His righteous hammer.

look it's simple
i got me a 2nd phone that she has no idea about
sometimes i rock off with tinder hoes
sometimes just trying my luck at the club while she asleep
yeah i like her or even maybe love her
but her pussy game is weak and she really let herself go
also so much puss and so little time
it's only logical mate

Yeah, this might be user

Underrated post. This OP

Thanks, I decided to go to /fit to get some motivation. You guys are though, but this is reality.

She sounds a little depressed op. When’s the last time you bough flowers, complimented her, took her out for a date night? You don’t get to just stop trying unless you want your relationship to wither and fall apart

>tfw a shit life has made me so distrustful that I always disregard compliments as platitudes and forget that they actually have a positive effect on other people

I'm in the similar situation as OP, but my wife has a very conscious fear that I'm out with other women. It's cute.

>there's more to looks for a husband, you know
>there's more to life than sixpack
>how was your run? did you go see bambi?
>omg you're running with no shirt on? why don't you just go naked while you're at it.
>so did you go to work, or did you go see some skank?

It's cute, and I always tell her I'm not handsome enough to do things like that, and I still wouldn't do such a thing if I was. My only issue today is my faggot workplace that has me working nights. I already requested day shift so my rest time is more consistent, but they have to train the new guys up before they do their time. Still making gains though.

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I regret getting married every single day

Tell us about it.

Rip in pieces

What do you want to know?

Why did you marry her?
What do you regret?
Did you actually marry anyone or are you just larping on a Mongolian cross stitching board?

> she goes through the motions and then believes the deed is done.
agh this. How many times do you have to explain how to use a toilet brush to someone in their 30s

Met in high school, did LDR all through college. Loved her, but she kept a lot hidden through those years apparently (she was always faithful though, just personality issues)
I regret that I wasted my early and mid 20s dating her and not others. And now I’m emotionally over the marriage. I cheat, kind of, especially emotionally. Physically though I’ve only ever been with her. She also spends like there’s no tomorrow and doesn’t nearly make up for it with her income. Sex is bland and rare.
Not larping

Everything you described and happened to you is entirely your fault.
As the man in the relationship, you should have made it extremely clear that you will not tolerate such bullshit in your home, explained that you don't expect her to be your maid since you are not a child and you can take care of your shit, but what you do expect from her is to not make it harder for you to keep your place tight. If she's not okay with those things, then you'd have to continue your relationship living separately.
I do concur that this is pretty much a western culture shit. Girls in the east do not have this mentality. In any case, as the man it is your responsibility to recondition this bitch, and if you deem her to be a lost cause, you move on.

Sounds like you need a serious conversation with her. The only way to keep a healthy long term relationship is by being as honest as possible. When you do, be sure to not be judgmental.

Hope this helps, good luck.

>What did you do with it?
Ghost all my grindr hookups after a one night stand

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She got complacent because you allowed it. Dump her or remain complacent yourself.

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>5'8" manlet
>Barely any progress made in a year of lifting
>Pretty boyish with feminine features
>Asian
>Hot girls never look at me
I'm forever doomed to marrying down and fucking up my blood line with an ugly girl, aren't I?

Why is it so hard to find people with sensibility nowadays? Not just in women but in general where people think "hey if I do X to improve myself and help others it might make both me and them happy." Why have people grown complacent and stopped trying to improve themselves?

t. male thot

Because it’s easier not to