/fat/ - Coffee and cigarettes edition

>Who is /fat/ for?
For the caloric elites among us who want to better themselves through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication.

>This is not QTDDTOT, ask questions about fat loss, but use that thread for general questions.

>Read the Jow Forums sticky (redundant in that you should have already but it covers all the basics of diet and exercise)
liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>Calculate your Body Fat Percentage
fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy (Gonna need waist/neck measurements)

>Calculate your BMI
nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm

>Calculate your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure)
sailrabbit.com/bmr/ (complex)
fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html (simple)

>Plan your weight loss week by week
losertown.org/eats/cal.php

>Track your calories and macros with MyFitnessPal or Cronometer. Works best on smartphones
myfitnesspal.com (better for packaged food)
cronometer.com (better for generic food/tracking micronutrients)

DO
>count calories, all of them.
>calculate your TDEE at sedentary. It will save you a whole meal's worth of calories.
>buy scales, be accurate in your measurements. autistically accurate.
>learn how to cook and start cooking your own healthy meals. lean protein and green vegetables.
>develop sustainable healthy lifestyle habits
>eat a lot of protein (1g per lb of goal body weight)
>cardio. learn to love walking.
>start lifting weights! fatties have the advantage that they can build muscle while cutting, especially as complete beginners!
>post your height/weight/screenshot of MFP/Cronometer food log when asking for advice

DON'T
>eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calorie count
>eat processed foods, or at least try to avoid if possible
>drink your calories. alcohol, soda, hot chocolate, fancy starbucks shit. forget it.
>be a retard

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Confess

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make me

>cigarettes
or
-patches
-spray
-gum if you really have an oral fixation. Shit for your teeth though.

its been a week and i dont lose 2lbs, dammit

stop being a bitch shoveling food down your throat
Literally eat 500 calories a day for a week and you'll lose that guaranteed

thats like 4 packets of instant oatmeal two in the morning 2 at night its not hard

>carbs

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I realized today that I've gained back 10 of the 25 pounds I lost in the spring. I'm not going to make it am I

Didn't loose shit since last year. Lost a bit in spring, but gained that back.

calling all fatty contestants, it's time to weigh in for week 4 of leg 2.
i won't be around this evening as i'm going to a local event literally called a feast. pray for me. i'll pick up any weigh-ins after 6 PM CEST either late tonight/tomorrow morning.

there's no free slots right now but here's the spreadsheet:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17klg9ypPatyXN1KUL0330wpxStaT9bBkgN9ZTOXtp_Y/edit?usp=sharing

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I just realised how much calories fucking bread piles on
Heres some meals i like to have
>scrambled eggs with 2 slices of buttered bread
>50% of this is the buttered bread
>3 hotdogs with a buttered bun
>about 40% of that is the bun
>a bowl of soup with some bread
>over 60% of that is bread
I feel like I can lose weight if I just stop eating fucking everything with bread, wish me luck

I ate two big plates of stew yesterday I cooked, chicken, carrots etc but I was sure to eat within my deficit still I gained .3 kg surely this is just water weight right? Stuff high in sodium like stew/soup promotes a lot of water retention.

IM FAT AND IM ANGRY ABOUT THAT!!!

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fatty contest
Bigyt
273
nothing big like last week but progress is progress

is lifting twice a week and jogging three times a week a good balance? just trying to cut fat as much i can not too concerned about muscles just want low body fat

Calories are calories doesn't matter what they are.
Long term body doesn't give a fuck it's all in:out ratio based

DiggerNicks reporting in
Been a bad week.
Commemorated two people who passed. Drank and ate far too much in an attempt to not want to blow my head off my fucking shoulders.
89.4kg (197.1lbs) weight hasn't budged.
Sorry doc. going to go nuts in this next week to compensate.

Yikes

nice work, slow and steady lad.

my condolences. you did pretty good considering the circumstances.

what's the most practical way to measure liquids without looking like a total tool
I like almond milk in my coffee and weetabix but I refuse to pour precisely x ml into a measuring jug just so I can log it accurately

Get measuring spoons... a tbsp is 30ml, tsp is 5

How many anons here got used to black coffee? I couldn't drink this fucking slop, but now it's the same as drinking water for me.

It's so fucking bitter but doesn't faze me anymore, anyone get that too?

I've been trying to fix my sleep schedule by denying any sleep between the hours of 5AM to 8PM, and my only friend has been black coffee.

Insomnia is fucking insane, let me tell you. You could be up for over 24h and not be tired when it counts the most. I'd rather have a nightmare where I get raped by 10 niggers at the same time than not be able to sleep.

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Look into n24/dspd it could be what you have. I suffer from n24 it's hell.

I don't mind it
if I'm out and about i'll usually get an espresso, I really don't mind them since they're so dinky they're gone in 5 seconds

most liquids that are primarily water weigh 1g per ml, i use my scales for this all the time

>fast for 24 hours
>unsweetened black tea suddenlh tastes 50x better than anything else I've ever drank
Is this the key ti making it, just fast until healthy shit tastes good and then eat that?

Change your diet and start exercising RIGHT NOW

>dspd
>n24

Looked into them both and they disturbingly ring a lot of bells for me.

I'll probably go see a doctor, but I feel like It might be possible for me to willpower through the weight loss along with the sleep schedule fix if I can just time the drowsiness properly with exercise and proper diet. I've heard eating past 6PM can make it harder to fall asleep at night from the extra calories you have to work with.

I'm not depressed or anything though, just having some trouble dealing with a few things which happen to be pretty significant to my progress. I'm definitely a morning person rather than a night-dweller.

I feel so much more energetic when I wake up early in the day rather than staying up all night which is when most of my craving for food comes from.

Fat Cat
356lbs

Fucking awful progress this week. I kind of let myself go a bit. Back on track.

junk food tastes 250x better after abstinence, so be aware

not for me. I ate two croissant and almost puked

yes and no
I had a microwave burger a few months ago and it was bloody awful, I used to live on those
but I did have some premium chocolate recently and that was divine

I'd say it more refines your palette to appreciate things better

Kinda crazy how after a long journey of dieting on proper food, or just fasting, the tastes and preferences change for some people.

I used to love deep fried shit as well as sweets like chocolate and doughnuts, but now they're nowhere near as tasty. same with doritos that shit I can't even finish half a bag without wanting to put it down.

To be honest, now I just kinda prefer cooked chicken with vegetables and some Lemon on the side. That's a lot more enjoyable than any of those other things.

Since I started working out in late July, my waistline's gone down a lot but not my weight. What gives?

Long term perhaps, but short-term the carbs are going to make you feel a lot hungrier than not

That being said, oatmeal is probably the best carbs you can eat. Something about how it binds makes it very slow-burning, keeps you full longer.

Lmao fat ducks lol

ikr rofl

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Nice Gut Eddie reporting in. 298 lbs otd

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17% body fat according to the calculator in OP
I find that very hard to believe at 88kg 190cm with DYEL mode. Can the estimate be off if you have a naturally thick neck?

eat keto pump black coffee and smoke 40+ ciggies a day.

Lost 25kg

Orange blossom
157.4lbs
Been sick with the flu for a week, so no gym time

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Not sure why i'm on a warning when I gave you a response last week........

fatty contest

BiggestLoser

Down to 275 this week.

I missed the "post body" thread
I went from 347 to 319, was pretty wild. Didn't think it would happen so quickly so I didn't take a picture.
I did take one at 319.4
I took one today at 306.7
And I look exactly the same

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What the fuck is wrong with your shoulder?

recorded!

sorry, i must have missed it. what was your weight?

Would you maybe, just possibly, slightly
....
..c..c..care to POST TITS OR GTFO, YOU KNOW THE FUCKIN
If dubs she has to put Sharpie in pooper

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I believe I went down one pound to like 277

Fuck I was hoping you wouldn't notice. Ignore it. I meant to get the phone to cover it but couldn't figure how to get the angle right again

To answer your question some bitch ran me over with a car

Man shut the fuck up

Dude, that's fucking rad.

Brapper - 305lbs. Been stuck at that weight since Monday. Guess weight lifting is either retaining water or I'm gaining muscle even on a huge deficit.

I didn't know I missed the post body thread but fuck it better late than never. I'm approaching 50 pounds lost and I finally got my first "wow you're looking thinner" today. I still have got a long way to go but it felt good

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Weight loss mires are the best mires. Good work user

It's a cool story, and luckily it's a newer metal plate in there so it doesn't set off metal detectors, but it actually started my rapid weight gain because before the wreck I was at my lowest, and hospital food + staying bedridden caused me to balloon

Dutchfatguy
85.5kg
no progress

Well fuck it, since everyone is sharing. I've not lost a single pound in a month and a half since I started hitting the gym, but my wait line has gone down enough that I'm about to go down a second notch on my belt. Also, I tire way slower and I feel much stronger.

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That's a shame. Still, that's a rad scar, don't be ashamed of it. All the scars I have are disease scars. Those are ugly and suck.

recorded! heading out now, will get back to anyone else later.

Your boy Camburger is down to 324

just made it lad

Im not fat and i think christ chan is gay

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I started coming to /fat/ after the weigh loss challenge started
I hate being left out

so did I, and I waited and hopped in when an open slot filled up. Patience !

it only started after I'd lost most of the weight so that ain't fair
pretty sure I'd be undisputed #1 if I was in it from the beginning

I get a black, 20oz, 4shot espresso every morning. My sleep is better due to not drinking another in the afternoon. Tastes good bro.

Everything tastes godlike after fasting desu. But you do get used to healthier foods and tend to prefer them after a few months of healthy eating.

Bros, in the journey of going on my cut, I feel like I've made it back to the original world line. I've been having the same feelings and headspace that I did before everything went to hell, it's as if myself from those days jumped straight to the future.
Thanks for the help bros, I'll never forget you telling me to eat less.

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Fatty contest
Marty
213.8
Terrible week for me, but it should mostly be water weight.

Same, I'm down 65 pounds in 6 months about. But I mostly hanged out in /fast/ not /fat/

yeah I'd have you beat
(not that it's a competition)

I have lost 40.9 pounds since August 5th, 2019
I want to brag, but I also think, as I mentioned yesterday, I'm probably killing myself somehow even though I feel great

If you get rid of the bread you can eat double the food that isn’t bread

Had two sticks of cotton candy, a bag of chips, a slice of pizza, and a twix for dinner yesterday

I can't stop drinking Pepsi

I'm taking the buttermore pill
fuck hunger

Drink diet pepsi

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New here.
How do I remind myself to eat less?
I told some of my normie friends to message me every so often telling me 'stop stuffing yourself fatass' but they laughed it off.
So what do I do? What are some tips?

Is a hurricane a legitimate reason not to go for a run today?

Fatty contest. Posting now since I won't be able to later.
>King of the Manlets
>205.4 lbs

This
I go through so much Pepsi Max as a substitute for sugary treats
Doesn't make me feel good but at least I don't feel the shame like if I were to eat a dessert

same
I think the constant caffeine in my blood is what lets me subsist on practically nothing for months on end
either that or I just have an iron will

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Yea caffeine is good
I used to think it was bad and make me feel anxious cause that's how I feel when I drink coffee. But it just seems any hot drink will put my stomach in a knot

Gentle reminder that you're shafting yourself by not cutting on nicotine, caffeine and albuterol. They complement each other, it's science stuff.

Fatty Contest
Henchman 21
260.2

Nice

What worked for me, instantly, is intermittent fasting.
I always snacked at night, hardcore, constantly.
Instead, I made a pact with myself that there is NO EATING AFTER 3PM AND BEFORE 9 AM

Therefore, it's all or nothing. I know I can't eat anything or I will break my vows, so I just don't. I don't have to watch how much I eat when I don't eat at all.
If you don't have that level of discipline at least, you are a letting yourself be the abysmal failure you don't have to be

Additionally it really helps with motivating you to have big, healthy and filling breakfasts and lunches

Pretty soon the cravings at night will just go away.
Snacks are Satan. Fuck you if you want them.

how do you sleep? i'm not obese, but i'm roughly 10 pounds overweight, and if i'm hungry it feels like my body won't let me sleep.

I don't eat snacks and I don't eat at night.
I'm the type that stuffs myself for lunch and then I'm too full to eat anything else untill I go to bed.
Also, terrible case of acid reflex means I can't really lie down untill I've digested.

something I've come to realise is that self improvement for its own sake is pretty worthless
whenever I hit my goal I'm just filled with an emptiness that's unbearable. Mission successful, I can go home now.
My reason for losing weight has always been "to not be fat any more" and it turns out that's not good enough. I need a reason to not be fat or it'll never stick.

So how do I find a reason? To be brutally honest there's fuck all I want to achieve that being fat would bar me from.
Sorry for killing the mood.

Well I'm 107 pounds overweight so my body is probably just constantly trying to die sees sleep as the next best thing, because it it super easy and I've never had trouble with it

Alright then. You really just need to download my fitness pal (what I use) or cronometer.
If you want to eat less, set yourself Hardline goals, IE, no more than 1200 calories today.
Put in everything you eat. EVERYTHING. If you add a teaspoon of mayo to a wrap, it has to go in. Perhaps don't eat what you can't accurately measure.
This lets you pace yourself better and really understand what it is that's killing you when you eat.

That's just me though.

I've made good progress but I love drinking. I shoplift my beer from major chains in my area that do not stock liquor, so that all I've got.
I also plan my weekly caloric intake around getting shitfaced friday and saturday night.

Just quit smoking so I can run better but still lots of fat to burn!

You can do it anons :)

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That’s what this thread is for. Finding that reason is up to you bro. Could be to have a fit qt. Could be to be healthy. Could be vanity in general. I push because it’s a suffering I chose. I want to look good. I want a fit qt. I enjoy lifting. Especially since I started school. I enjoy being tired at bedtime and getting good sleep. I like looking younger. I like chugging water. I like the direction I pushed myself. It helped me realize things. Like going to school is important. That life is the rush I make it to be. That rejection ain’t shit and they are missing out. Just make life your bitch in the way you want to.

fatty contest
Twink4BBC
165.3
Resist the weight loss goblins at that event Doctor.

this isn't a social anxiety support group obviously, but i feel the same way a lot of the time with my SA. for whatever it's worth, i know what you're going through and it sucks. what my therapist tells me is that i need to develop a way to feel good about it when i stretch myself. i think part of it is fundamentally a choice -- either you can brush it off or you can actively attempt to recognize its significance. while you can go full nihilist and recognize that on a certain level it doesn't matter if you're healthy enough, there is the OBJECTIVE FACT that by losing weight you are becoming healthy. within the framework of being a human being inhabiting a body, the health of that body has some kind of objective significance, and by losing weight you are becoming more healthy, which is a good thing.

sorry for rambling, and i hope i could be even the slightest bit helpful. something that helped me with the emptiness was realizing that the emptiness is not actually me -- it's just a transient feeling that's expressed in that instance. i as an entity am bigger than that emotion, and that part of me will be there when the emotion passes. for me that makes it more bearable in the moment, but it took a long time to get there.

idk what Jow Forums's attitude towards this is, but try meditation and mindfulness in general. took a while for me to just sublimate my urge to say "fuck this" and actually give it a real shot, but i find it really helpful.

good luck user.

Switch from beer to wine or hard liquor? Less calories than beer.

It’s a judgment call. First, you should know that your calorie counting is not accurate. Most labels can be fairly inaccurate to the degree of a 200 calories more than stated in a single serving. Second, things like water retention make it more difficult to assess. Third, shit, piss and cum change your weight drastically throughout the day. The goal is to monitor an overall trend, not the day to day. Keep track of the bigger picture.

This is a stupid question so I'll post it here, but I could probably make a thread about it.

Is there a way to enjoy working out?
I admit I have a slight [spoiler] legitimate [/spoiler] health condition [spoiler]ehlers danlos, i.e. hyper mobility / double jointed [/spoiler] that causes issues when lifting heavy weights, but even so, weight lifting, running, even body weight exercises are just not fun. Even when I get into the habit of doing them for a month I never even get into the groove of them. It never becomes enjoyable, it doesn't even feel routine, it feels like I have to push myself everyday with zero enjoyment; I don't even enjoy the feeling afterwards like "I'm glad I did that thing."
Am I missing something?

fatty contest

dickgainz
168.2lbs
nothing like last week, but a slow week was expected after dropping like 6 pounds in a week.

I'm confused, you think workouts are supposed to be fun?

dude, going to work isn't fun, but getting paid is
and working out isn't fun, but being a greek god is

Well, maybe it's just a bad sampling, but all my friends enjoy going to the gym. They look forward to it, they get grumpy when they can't go (I understand this one is due to exertion and not enjoyment, like a dog not getting enough exercise).
Runner's high is a thing. Getting into the zone. There are lots of ways people enjoy physical exertion.

I play some funky music and try to make the workout into a kind of dance routine
Just anything to trick you into thinking you're having fun