Is nofap & porn combo the best way to increase test short-term?
Is nofap & porn combo the best way to increase test short-term?
Kayden Diaz
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Eli Campbell
nofap isn't about increasing your test level like some videogame stat, it's about allowing your test levels not to be depleted constantly
there is test increase but it should be more accurately be call test-restoration
Carson Nguyen
Try to fap with a busy life with job, friends, hobbies, gym, etc
>protip you can't / will only do it every once in a while
Nofap is just a redpill for you to fix your life, once you're doing it you know you need to change asap
Henry Phillips
I'm on day 6 and feel a surge of energy that is borderline uncomfortable because I can't channel it anywhere except working out more. It's like my chest is pumped with something.
Can't decide if I like this restlessness or not desu
Aiden Nelson
No, you retard. Porn is toxic for your mind and no fap has literally no benefits outside of a one time test boost after 7 days.
Just jerk off without porn.
Anthony Walker
No Fap + Eat Healthy + Lift Weights + Boxing/Wrestling/Kickboxing/BJJ gives Chad mode.
It's mainly psychological. I doubt there is any actual physiological change. But it works.
Lincoln Walker
neither of those have any affect on your testosterone in the slightest. the only way to increase your test levels in any meaningful was is to take steroids
this is fact
Ryan Hall
That's what I meant you're doing a meaningless effort if you're not actively trying to change your life. You're literally getting a dopamine rush from watching how many days you're going without relapsing but that will not bring you any benefits by itself. You have to actually do something with that energy and (placebo or not) increased confidence and motivation. That's why nofap is a sign your life is fucked up.
Think about it. No Chad irl ever heard of this nofap thing they just go with the flow of whatever they feel like doing because their life is really busy from their big social circles and plans and meetups etc
Lucas Hernandez
yes but your first workouts are gonna be shit
Aiden Gray
completely false.
Masturbating even without porn increases prolactin and DHT levels, killing your gains and making you go bald.
Brandon Ramirez
Thats just placebo
Jaxon Russell
Source?
Isaiah Flores
I don't think so user. I still think nofappers are a retarded cult, but I can't deny I feel more unsettled and squirmy than usual
Liam Smith
Test
Lucas Cox
>can barely handle not masturbating for 6 days
>nofappers are a retarded cult
it's literally perfect for individuals like you
Dylan Cox
Having a healthy sex drive is normal for a high test level, I guess nofappers must be a bunch of low test faggots who think not fapping will solve their problems.
Landon Perez
Oliver Clark
Somewhere the real point of nofap has been lost in time. It was to stop using your hand to ejaculate but instead use a member of the opposite sex to ejaculate. All the benefits of NoFap are true.
Joseph Brooks
I once went a week without cumming and literally anything I did made my gooche and balls spasm like it wanted to cum but couldn't.
>Take a leak
>Spasm
>Wipe my asshole
>Spasm
>Talk to any random moderately attractive girl
>Spasm
Why torture yourself for a meme?
Logan Powell
cope cumbrain
Charles Scott
To start talking to moderately attractive girls and have sex instead of jerking yourself off.
Hudson Sanchez
why not both?
Jose Stewart
If I nofap more than a week then cum leaks out my dick when I take a shit
Jackson Allen
I'm on day 6 too. Keep working out. Do it first thing in the morning, and work out harder/longer. eventually you'll be exhausting yourself enough to have a productive but normal-feeling rest of the day.
Jordan Richardson
Blessed truthpost
Oliver Campbell
it's best for long term, like six months minimum. short term your best best is to permablast tren
nofap chest gainz are real. i don't even have to train chest anymore. just fuck around with a bit of pressing here and there at the end of a workout or do some pushups occasionally and you're good to go.
pic related
Jayden Nelson
No actually getting laid is
Liam Fisher
the left can't meme, they are too weak minded for the meme magic
Robert Gonzalez
Testoration.
Adrian Long
The nofap bullshit had little to no effect on testosterone levels.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
But porn addiction have effects like any other addiction in neurological side.
Brody Mitchell
TLDR: Fap and EJACULATE every 7 days, if you edge everyday doesn't affect testosterone levels, if you want to enhance testosterone levels, lift weights or do exercise along with a good diet
Evan Taylor
have sex
Jacob Murphy
why not karate or jiu jitsu?
Charles Lopez
>Increases DHT
>Kills gains
You gotta go on the shirt bus, retard
Noah Davis
>nofap isn't about increasing your test level like some videogame stat
Yes it is.
Chase Gray
You being happier is a legit physiological change
Dylan King
Nofap isn't going to lift your testosterone by any significant degree. The only thing to consider is that porn and excessive masturbation lower it.
If you're masturbating in moderation then there is no difference between you and a 365 day nofapper.
Camden Carter
Test levels are a red herring
The real changes come from reduced prolactin levels and increased dopamine sensitivity
Elijah Sanders
What about fucking 3 times a day or more? Does that lower test? I unironically have a small harem of girls that I fuck even if I don't feel like it, idk I thought fucking real girls raised test, but can you do it too much?
Dylan Reyes
What's a moderate amount? 3x/week?
Ayden Adams
That's way too much.
Sounds fine, as long as you avoid porn.
Liam Ward
I feel like this just isn't true
Elijah Gonzalez
It's not normal but it might be true.
Dominic Cox
elaborate
Henry Carter
It's not normal? 5+ days without ejaculating I feel a lot of pressure in my balls and gooche. I become super irritable as well.
Charles Clark
I hope you're a leftist who's pretending to be a cringey alt righter
Jaxson Morgan
It's all nonsense
Connor Scott
Pretty much this, some vitamin or mineral deficiencies will contribute to lowered T levels along with stress. Assuming you have all of these factor under control, frauding is the only way to get an appreciable boost.
Aiden Perez
No
The only way to change the levels of any of your hormones is to suffer from some disease or inject exogenous hormone.
Any lifestyle/diet choice you make has a negligible impact on the levels of your hormones.
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Matthew Taylor
I'm starting to think it's psychosomatic. The first three days of NoFap are always the hardest for me, but once I get a hold of my sexual desire I find that I'm not horny anymore, but instead have more energy and motivation to do things I normally wouldn't want to.
I'm on day 8 and don't really feel any sexual desire, but even right now I have the urge to just go and workout for hours and I'm pissed off I can't because it's a rest day. Typically I have zero motivation to exercise.
Gabriel Johnson
Except it isn't "fact," but okay. What IS a fact is that one the seventh day of no ejaculation, your testosterone skyrockets and then returns to baseline the next day.
Jaxon Gray
this happens to me too but when I’ve been jerking more than usual
Also when I see some thicc dubs
Andrew Evans
You need to release all that sexual energy naturally because you might want to take over the world and the jewel doesnt like that
Thomas Morales
Cumbrain cope
Kayden Johnson
Based
Joshua Miller
No, stupid people have interpreted it that way, sure. But the whole thing came about because people were having trouble performing when it came to actual sex or really struggled to be motivated to pursue a healthy sexual relationship.
Depleting your test and dulling your endorphin receptors through excessive masturbation was a common problem with all these issues, so the logical step was to abstain from masturbation until natural T levels and stimulation from real situations returned.
People found that not rapping positively impacted their lives but people that misinterpreted it began to see it like a fix all and gave it characteristics that it never had.
Then people get disappointed when it literally doesn’t increase test above and beyond what they’re used to when they weren’t even burned out to the degree the initial people were, and also took the social gains fluff as completely legitimate and not just mildly increased self esteem from your own perceived accomplishment.
Don’t simplify stuff to straw man it, or even worse simplify stuff to convince yourself it will have that effect.
Justin Garcia
Fapping not rapping
Blake Fisher
>dulling your endorphin receptors
meaningless nonscience
Isaiah Morgan
Dopamine is involved with many of the brain's processes, especially saliency (deciding if something is important or not) and the reward pathway. Dopamine is also a main driver for sexual arousal and is released in large amounts during orgasm.
Basically constant sexual activity including watching porn and masturbating floods the brain with dopamine and the brain slowly adjusts by downregulating certain receptors.
Because of this normal activities no longer seem important (demotivation) and feel less rewarding (anhedonia). Drugs also fuck you up in the same way, but PMO is more insidious because the human sex drive is very strong and there's triggering material everywhere in life. You can't even browse Jow Forums without seeing sexy half-naked thots posted constantly.
Prolactin is also released in large amounts during orgasm. It is part of the orgasm feedback loop. It is largely responsible for the refractory period- you may recognise this as feeling sleepy, tired and weak after an orgasm. It also suppresses dopamine levels which prevents you from becoming further aroused and excited.
The thing about prolactin is it takes a long time to fully leave the body. We're talking days to weeks. So constant PMO is maintaining a constant level of prolactin in your body, making you feel tired and demotivated, and supressing dopamine levels to the point your brain only responds to massive surges in dopamine such as during PMO and doing recreational drugs. High prolactin levels are also linked to gynaecomastia (manboobs)!
Jaxon Foster
You know precisely what I mean, even if you want to play the semantic dickhead game. You get a lessened response from stimulus because you’re used to seeing so many naked people and sex in porn that the real thing is less intense. And the sensation from sex is less because you have been choking your cock with a death grip everyday for 15 years.
Bentley Evans
Quality post