Can an average male (not r9k fucked up genetic trash) become a 7/10 to girls by lifting, dressing properly, getting a haircut, taking a shower, learning to be more assertive?
Can an average male (not r9k fucked up genetic trash) become a 7/10 to girls by lifting, dressing properly...
Definitely. The average guy is average only because he doesn’t give too much of a shit about how he looks.
Slap a good body, a nice haircut and good, well chosen clothing on him and he’ll easily ram his way into the top tiers.
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Easily, yes you should looks max but the real gains come from your attitude and how you deal with women 90% of men are puss boys that can't into soft dominance with women, once you learn some basic game and flirting concepts your success will skyrocket
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Why do you even ask, it's worth a try either way. Even if you fail to hit 7 you'll look better than you do now.
not in my opinion
generally because women (at least according to some studies of dating websites) tend to judge roughly the top ~20% of males as an above-average which is a 7/10 rating.
If you're tall and have decent facial aesthetics you can become 7/10 easily with a bit of lifting and self improvment
you're missing something, is top 20% acording to her own social circles.
Is not global top 20%
>asuka
>not COOOMING to best girl
>~20% of males as an above-average which is a 7/10 rating
>top 20%
>7/10
user...
no
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The thing is, women do not rate men the way men rate women. What a male would consider to be a 9/10 male is around a 7/10 or even lower on a woman's rating scale. They get weirdly fixated on certain "types" and overall will go for a man if he has status and wealth, despite his looks.
Everything you mentioned will improve your overall value. Basic sense of style, adequate hygiene, as well as maintaining your physique will go a long way. Your true value does not come from the attention of women, they are merely an accessory to your value as a man. Focus on yourself and they will come when you no longer desperately look for them.
If anything I’ve seen men rate other men exactly like that way more often
>”no one can be a 10 so [hottest male celebrity they could find] is a solid 9”
>”[equally hot male celebrity] isn’t as hot at my #9 do he’s a comfortable 8”
>repeat for 7-4
>now 9-4 are all taken up by dudes who are clearly 8-10/10s and “average” men are delegated to being 3/10s and 2/10s
Meanwhile they post shit like “how can women like this face? He’s clearly a 3/10 and looks like a thumb???”
t. ulgy guy
The problem is this graph. You probably rate people on a fair scale of attractiveness.
Females have an extreme perspective of attractiveness. 7/10 to a female is a chad who is 6'2, 16% bf and looks like a male model.
pictures are often a laughably incomplete depictor of attractiveness anyway. we're human beings, complex animals obviously, but animals nonetheless, and we've evolved to find mates in person via a panoply of subconscious information that can only be gleaned from direct interaction and observation in real-time. you might like the way a woman smiles -- the whole, animated action -- or some gesture she makes. it's little shit like this which also influences attraction. when you try to distill a human being down to a picture, well, we're just not made to make decisions based on it. any decision we do make can only be faulty concerning anyone but the most photogenic.
Good post
There is no problem. This is just fact. You do whatever it takes to looks/health max regardless of your "perceived" attractiveness, incel.
When I was in highschool like 10 years ago, I was an absolute loser shutin who basically had no friends. Towards the read The Game and watched Real Social Dynamics and it really helped me to get out of my shell. I basically made a pledge to myself to get over the anxiety of rejection and just GO TALK TO WOMEN. Talk to everyone for that matter. It's called the law of large numbers, if you try 1 million times, for one, you'll get better at talking to people, and for twos it's almost impossible that you wouldn't be able to find a girl that likes you. Cultivate your hobbies. Work out. Push yourself to go out. It is normal to be scared, but you need to push yourself. We are all rooting for you anons. We can all make it.
depending on where you live, the average guy is overweight/obese. in the uk and America for example the figure is around 70%.
furthermore, most people don't exercise.
if your already average looks etc, getting in shape will put ahead of the pack for sure.
This, no matter where you rank right now you’ll look way better if you lift, dress, and groom appropriately.
When I said men, I meant men who think rationally. I did not mean people who obsess over celebrities like gossiping school girls. Men who are able to realistically assess another man's relative attractiveness without jealousy or other undesirable traits that cloud their vision.
*blocks your path*
this gets reposted over Jow Forums so much but it is a fallacious incel cope for people who can't accept that their personality is shit
you're assuming women rate men in a similar way to how men rate women, but really women differ in that they value interests, personality aspects, long-term sustainability, "strength", and all sorts of other aspects far more than appearance. look up the data for how "most attractive features" differ between gender. off the top of my head it's something like only 2% of women rate their dude's face as their most attractive physical characteristic, compared to something like 50% for men. this goes on top of all the anecdotal evidence you must constantly hear of women falling for all sorts of non-specimens.
I'm a soft 5/10 on a good day and I regularly pull females. Men, by and large, judge females 1 to 10 based on looks. Women, by and large, do so based on the mind. This is why women will never give a man 10/10 on dating profiles. Looks are merely a gateway or prerequisite for them to explore your mind. You will see all these graphs made by mgtow and incels showing women don't ever rate men more than 3/5 or 7/10 "proving" (somehow) that bitches ain't shit when they don't have a fucking clue how to get one in the first place.
>inb4 empirical evidence needed
Why do women read porn and men watch it? Why do women regularly gold dig and men don't? (It's the mindset that makes and keeps making money). Why do attractive women regularly get with average or even mediocre guys? Why do you think a lot of self-improvement guys keep telling you about stuff to fix your mind/life? Why do they tell you to stop dressing like you live in your mom's basement instead of telling you which suits, watches, and cars to buy? Why do you think so many men do everything they can to tear other men down? Looks matter enough to get your foot in the door, but it will never be the be-all-end-all if your personality doesn't mesh with theirs. 10/10 looks doesn't matter for more than a hookup if you are boring or cringe mentally.
adding to this, charles manson was a 5'2" ex-con with a swastika face tattoo and, by personality alone, was able to convince educated 19-20 yr old white girls to run away from home and fuck him on a ranch in the desert
so the answer to OP's question is yes
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I said best girl, not best women, whom Misato easily is
Asuka >= Misato >>>>>>>>> Rei
I dont think hes being an incek hes just letting dudes know what theyre up against. We have to hold ourselves to higher standards. Youre both right.
you can be a 10/10 if you wanted to
No, because you have the stink of a shitposting Jow Forums faggot all over you.
Leave Jow Forums forever you might yet save yourself.
if your only goal is to fuck thots maybe.
if you want to find a proper woman just put some effort into your body, nothing extreme, just the right amount that show you have some respect for yourself. put some effort into clothing, dont put on the first thing you find and dont become a faggot fashion numale, just show that you kinda care how you look, again basic self respect. but most important HAVE YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. show that you are a man that can manage his life and that can provide something to society and to your family, and i dont mean just be rich, be a fucking man, capable of doing basic home maintenance, capable of survive without your parents, capable of PROBLEM SOLVING. thats the real deal.