Does adderall have any place in the Jow Forums lifestyle?

How about Ritalin ? does it melt brain ?

addfag here. been on ritalin too, i havent worked out on it but it did nothing for me except make me moody. again, DEPENDS PERSON TO PERSON, TRIAL AND ERROR AND DONT USE FUCKING MEDICATION IF U DONT NEED IT DEGENERATES

>All modern day great thinkers use it I think
We're so doomed as a society.

Was a fucking game changer for me, I managed to get dentist appointments (something I was terrified of and couldn't do for 8+ years) and got my entire jaw fixed in two weeks, normalised my sleep (get tired around midnight like a normal person), can now work like a normal person and don't overeat anymore. Also gotten easier to go to the gym, though I took a break this week due to the dentist work.
But I have diagnosed ADHD and tried making it without medication for 7 or 8 years, buying into all the "you don't need medication it's just willpower lol" bullshit that's spread here.

Truth is; SSRIs and antidepressants are garbage and will destroy you. Stims etc. work great, but only if you actually suffer from the condition. Most drugs and alcohol are a giant cope. And there'll always be faggots who think everyone is born the same and just needs to get their shit together.

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Adderall= godmode. Take 0.5-1mg Xanax with it and you’ll ascend

only if you have a long nofap streak, otherwise you will be useless when you are taking a break from them

have u tried strattera, (presumably) addbro? stimulants arent working for me and im going to bring it up in my next appointment for a switch, quit coldturkey on 30mg/day of dexamphetamine and no effects.
so far ive been on; 1type ssri>dex>rit>dex> trial and error style for my add

The issue with the drugs is the soft science of things like ADHD(psychology in general), not saying people can't be predisposed to these conditions. But using a diagnosis like ADHD for drugging kids into behaving is disgusting.

>smoking fags
cringe

What did you do to cope with your ADHD ? aside medication ?

Lmao you're fking stupid if you really believe this.

SSRIs and shit like that fuck you up long term, had me messed up for like six months after being on them for a month. That may interfere with other stuff working. Also, there's a lot of other factors; if you're on any other drugs (especially weed), excessively use energy drinks (I used to and it messes with the meds) or have a shit unhealthy lifestyle, the meds won't work that well.

I agree with you, hell I was put on this medication as a kid and while it helped my grades, I have a suspicion that it profoundly fucked with my development (I'm tall as shit, but a dicklet with weak wrists; almost like light Klinefelter) and it certainly messed with brain development. On the other hand, I do think ADHD in adults is a real condition, though likely caused by interference in the natural maturation process (hell, I'll just say it: caused by single mothers not knowing what the fuck they're doing).

True, but Alain Delon is based.

I utilised caffeine strategically (cold brew coffee or zero cal energy drinks next to bed to even get up), had weekly and daily to-do lists that I forced myself to follow, gym 3-4 times a week (though I often overdid it and then dropped out for a week due to excessive fatigue), extremely clean diet with IF thrown in. The problem is that while I had this lifestyle in place, I was unable to follow it for a prolonged period of time and kept falling out and into weeklong phases of anxiety, depression and inability to do anything, usually coupled with sleep deprivation/insomnia. All of this got better with the meds, especially the god damn sleep which in turn was a revolution for my workouts as well.

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as a probably 100% confirmed ADHD fag without bothering to get diagnosed I worked through it by leaving education and pursuing a career in crime

crime is career for us with ADHD because mainstream education is too boring and gay for us

Dude you should write a guide with your diet and all. Very interesting and useful thx user !

define shit unhealthy lifestyle. i dont have any of those vices you mentioned currently, and ive completely kicked soda out of my life as easy as breathing, replacing it with water instead. i cant even drink a soda drink without feeling disgusted nowadays

Not really.

I have severe adhd and have to just live with it, I do a lot of cardio and physical labor at work and those help. Also little to no caffeine and plenty of sleep.

I took them up till I was 26, but no one wants to be 60 taking adderall and you may eventually run into heart or blood pressure problems and having to quit that shit later in life is very difficult.

When I did take it, I couldn't get out of bed when I ran out of my script and I was really depressed.

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Try coping with adhd in a jail cell you degenerate.

Here's the quick version; fish (!!!), meat and vegetables are generally good, grains and sugar are terrible for ADHD and will cause that 'overwhelmed and unfocused' feeling where you wanna do stuff but can't. Yoghurt is important for gut health (one a day for me). Eggs are good, iodine is important (kills fast food cravings, you can get it from seaweed).

A 16-8 intermittent fasting schedule will help, though depending on your meds you'll have to eat in the morning and stop in the afternoon.

Beer is absolutely terrible for you, if you're gonna drink stick to once a week and only clear alcohols (vodka, maybe rum or whiskey). Alcohol in general is shit, smoking/vaping is shit, weed is the worst thing you could possibly use for ADHD.

That covers the basics, sources are some studies, the book 'Testshock' (pretty good to get your test in order), some other literature I don't remember the names of.

Unsteady sleep times, excessive time in front of the computer (we all do this, but you know what I mean), any and all drugs, lack of socialising, lack of exercise (cardio and such, weightlifting ain't enough), messing with your medication yourself without consulting the doctor, and of course any toxic living environment (bad parents, bad roommates etc.).

Don't say 'us' you fucking degenerate

>When I did take it, I couldn't get out of bed
This is interesting. Can you elaborate? Maybe a misdiagnosis?

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Can you explain the stuff about food? Sounds like some bullshit a la bloodtupe diet and other such nonsense

a-user i...
>unsteady sleep times
>excessive time in front of the computer (i havent gone more than a month 1, ONE time, the usual use is daily/16hrs without pc pretty much since i was 3
>any and all drugs (i smoke weed, VERY, VERY rarely, have drunk when the time comes in the past but abstain from it now)
>toxic living environment (had one for my whole life, only just got out of it afew months ago, now i live alone but issues are still there in the form of people and parents still burdening me with things, without telling too much of my life)
am i past redemption? i felt like i had nothing to worry about until i wrote this out

Take my word or do your own research. I spent years figuring this shit out between sources here and in real life. Quick version: Animal proteins should be obvious, grains being garbage is common knowledge in fitness circles, sugar is common sense as well. Iodine is a bit more obscure and will take research, fish for omega oils and healthy fats especially.
Eat shit that makes your body feel good, not your brain.

I'll keep this short, man. It took me fucking years to get over the toxic influence from my parents (egotistic mom, divorced alcoholic abusive wannabe punk/commie dad, shit stepdad) and my environment (boarding schools, bullying, toxic friends, batshit girlfriends). I only got out of it around 25, when I moved into a new city, cut most ties, and started working on my mental health. The biggest short cuts were: Jordan B. Peterson's work (very hated on here lately, just read his book and watch some lectures), getting proper therapy/medication (took six fucking months to find a decent psych), nofap & noporn (gets you a gf pretty quick, gives you drive) and regular lifting (SL for me).

But what you really need to hear: You are going to be okay. You're worth something and you'll figure it out eventually, but you don't have to do it on your own. Be honest, open and vulnerable and ask for help where you need it. We're all gonna make it.

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your earlier situation sounds around the same boat as mine. but i ditched my psychologist on the second session due to the costs and an extremely new situation i had to adapt to (it was like 150 a session btw) and aside from the first session, it was not very cathartic.
thanks for the kind words, user. i hope we all make it

Yeah, finding a decent psych is a nightmare, my dude. Better keep looking though, or just use CBT and meds.
Read Models by Mark Manson, ACT made simple by Russ Harris, Testshock by Christopher Walker and the War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Those should give you a perspective and direction out of the fog. Good luck

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My advice is, if you're gonna drink, smoke, pop pills, do yourself a favor and drop them all and just do gear instead. The lesser of the evils with all the benefits.

thanks user. i saved them and ill give them a quick read (if i can bring myself to, and keep them in my memory longer than putting the book down)

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Edit; also get your t levels checked first obv, trt can solve depression issues too

What a gullible user.
Reminder that our boy Pianoman did gear for 20 years straight. But it only took 6 months of speed to kill him

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steroids are really bad for mental health, proof of this is /fraud/ which is full of roidraging spergs, everything triggers them

Hey anons, I did LSD for the first time in over 2 years recently, I went with half a tab and was really surprised by the amount of physical energy it gave me. I felt like I had a nuclear reactor inside me and couldn't stop flexing, screaming, doing sporadic push ups and pull ups, etc. I've done speed and also mdma multiple times in the past, and this felt way more powerful and energetic.
This leaves me to believe that working out on lower doses (not microdoses, but like 1/4 to 1/3 tab) would be amazing. I'm a bit hesitant to try it in a public gym though.
Does anyone have any experience with acid + lifting?

do u have add like me, user? also, addbros whats ur experience like on acid because acid is the final boundary ive set for myself on drugs being alcohol, weed, lsd, meds and its the only one i havent tried yet

Is there proof he did speed?

Don't think so, at least not beyond the normal internet induced "add" that everyone has these days. I highly recommend trying acid anyway, shit's amazing. Even if you have a difficult trip, it's so cathartic.
My dream right now is to go innawoods on acid, find some heavy stones to lift, blast some cheesy power metal through some bluetooth speaker and go full turbogorilla caveman lifting psychopath on that shit.

sounds comfy but i thought being on acid is like your unsure of reality?? hm...like idk how to say it but my imagination of it is ur completely unaware of what ur doing actually its easier if i say its p much a dream?? idek how u would know ur lifting stuff from my elementary view on it

Depends alot of how you can handle the trip. Can be bad from the start or amazing.

What you described is more like shrooms, that shit can make you completely crazy in the literal sense. The mind retains much more clarity and control on acid, even if reality seems like it's falling apart.
Anyway, for anything involving physical activity and coordination, I'd rather do a half tab or less, as shit can really get unpredictable on higher doses.

I went to college in my late 20’s for a biology/physiology degree. I studied a lot to make sure I understood the material and not just be able to pass the exams. Was always in competition for top grades with a few other kids who were bright sure but they sucked at concepts. During exams they had some special allocation for extra time from the handicap office. Always scoring a few higher on exams than me. Found out later they were all taking adderal to study. Felt it was a bit unfair advantage

Ive lifted on a full tab. Wouldn't recommend. It was a very cool experience, my regular bench felt like I was lifting nothing, but I got scared as I didn't want to die under the bar in case I couldn't tell when I was getting tired.

It's also a vasodialater, so your hands feel weird grabbing a bar, cable handle, or dumbbell. Pull ups were probably the most fun.

But the bad part was is that all my lifts went down after this. I think I wrecked the nervous system pathways for my muscle activation/form. Hard to explain, but I basically needed to relearn all the lifts

i did like 50ug once and lifted, shit was tight, the stimulating effect from acid has me jumping out of my fucking skin if i sit still too long so i know exactly what you mean.

Also forgot to add the uneasiness of seeing strangers at the gym. Constantly wondering if they notice how strange you are acting.

Yes. If you want get laid guarantee snort Adderall when you're drinking. Speed+booze is God mode

Oh, I forgot I would also include shrooms in my list of drugs that I would use. That sounds interesting, how was your experience on shrooms...would you do it again?

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why doesn't my dick get hard when i take it?

vasodilator. it shrunk mine. YMMV on every medication though, so yeah.

That form thing is strange, I don't think I've felt something similar. As for the anxiety from interacting with strangers, yes, that's always the biggest problem for me and the reason why I wouldn't go to a public gym on acid.

During the peak I was powerwalking around in circles through a friends apartment, trying really hard to retain what little sanity I had left, feeling like my thoughts are getting thoroughly confused and neural pathways are getting jumbled up. Later I remember lying down and convincing myself that the shrooms had out-tricked me and i'd gone completely mad.
After the peak had ended, I felt much better, I remember being full of energy and headbanging really fast to this:
youtube.com/watch?v=g_bkogHh7tk
It was really intense, but I'd still do it again.

It makes it difficult to get hard, but once you do, you can fuck for hours.

>Does tweaking have any part in Jow Forums lifestyle?
Could you boys stop being braindead and listen to your dad, or older guys in general, sometimes?

Adderall made me psychotic and I still have issues from them 7 months later.

I take adderal for adhd. So if I take speed, would this also slow things down for me?

Blame disney and social media

i haven't been diagnosed with anything but im a total sperg and snorting speed put me to sleep

>DONT USE FUCKING MEDICATION IF U DONT NEED IT DEGENERATES
This.
Idiots. Just eat right, exercise, and have an open line of communication with your doctor(s).

ADHD isn't real, you guys are all faggots. Adderall works for everyone's because it's a fucking stimulant.

Depending on if you're talking about instant release or extended release adderall, ir is more intense but see things like adderall and dexies are more functional amphs because that's how they were engineered sure you can get a mad rush but it doesn't have anywhere as much recreational value as speed and isn't even in the same realm of dopamine rush as meth. I quit both ages ago, hope this helped.

lol

drugs are bad, mmkay.

don't expect drugs to fix personality problems, if you have your shit together it's fine occasionally

>ADHD isn't real
what are chemical imbalances
>Adderall works for everyone
no, actually. it both works for people and it doesnt work for people. see my case where it doesnt work.

define personality problem and how do you fix it, in that occasional non-fucked up case?

Rich Piana says it restricts blood vessels and makes it harder to get a pump

Do you want to live to old age? The truth is the body isn't able to consume stimulants daily without health consequences. It messes with your blood pressure and your mind. If you must, have a cup of coffee, but taking ADHD drugs shortens your life span.

Too bad the Jews running big pharma don't want you to know that. They want it to be easy as possible for your to go to the doctor and say, "sometimes it's hard to concentrate when working for extended periods of time or when doing difficult tasks" and get the script for an addictive substance that they're selling.

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V A S O D I L A T O R

Youre not looking at the bigger picture.
Its a great way for NPCs and fiends to cull themselves from the general population

Awww, did the high school afwete go pwo and his heawt expwoded? Awww.

It's better than coke

Smell my dick, gaybo.

Squatting on Addy Legs is an experience unrivalled in fitness

I got the best workouts of my life on it but I couldn’t eat so I got cut up like a Greek statue. I couldn’t get boners on it and my dick would get all shriveled so I quit taking it.

>I couldn’t get boners on it and my dick would get all shriveled so I quit taking it.
Been there brother. It almost feels good how totally turned off your bone zone is, like you've already achieved 1,000 days NoFap and seen God. It's a whole new world of flaccidity

It was bad for me. I had a long time girlfriend at the time (who was giving me half her addy script) and I wouldn’t fuck her so that was one of the causes of tension that led to us breaking up

That's weird. I take it and spiral into hours-long sessions of feeding my particular jack-off fantasies by reading and writing stories, leading up to a single unsatisfying orgasm.

Would adderall be any help for anxiety?

That shit is destroying me and fuck the meme just relax bro stuff. Anyone with genuine anxiety that is not a fucking neet or a student is fucked.

Literally tried weed for the first time at 27yo last week and it was actually not bad but felt similar to a sedative and it's not sustainable to use while working.

My doc was open to prescribe me stuff. Anything I could ask her that is not complete shit?

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I think I've just kind of lived with anxiety/depression my whole life because any kind of stimulant makes me feel like a happy human being. Whenever I take this shit I have the best day, I just can't bring myself to try to get a prescription for anything and don't really want to deal with insomnia or impotency.

it's guaranteed to exacerbate your anxiety. that's kind of its intended effect.

:'(
I would take Vyvanse. When it finally wore off at the end of the day and my dopamine dropped I would get intense porn cravings and destroy my dick. All on dudeweed.

Man, addictive behaviors are somethin else. I have not been kind to my brain.

Don’t be sad for me user. It is better to have loved and lost then to have never have loved at all.

>all these actual retarded boomers itt
lul

>boomer faggot mad
All of your musical heroes from the 60s were on bennies when they created their work

>everyone is exactly like me
Microbrain think

What about Vyvanse?

If you have ADHD, it'll help. If you don't have ADHD, it'll make it worse.

t. some faggot with no experience in the field

kek

Enjoy the constipation you drone

t. some faggot with no experience in the field

Enjoy the constidronetion you pa

No. I took adderall for my ADHD for a couple years. I stopped because it killed my appetite and made me feel like shit. It got me super fucking skinny and I was probably nearly the weakest person in my school. Adderall fucking sucks and you're better off without it.

>50mg Vyvanse
>20mg Adderall
>2 Starbucks Blonde Roasts
>1 ciggy
Wrang out my guts until there was not one picogram of shit left. Then benched 3pl8 with some peroxide blonde Instathot deepsquatter mirin'. One of the best workouts of my life.

>Wrang out my guts until there was not one picogram of shit left.
My boner just went soft but it asked me if you wiped. It says it would come back to work if you left some of that shit tangled in your ass hair.

not the user you were talking too, but diagnosed ADHD on Ritalin for years.
LSD - trip is much more social, a good self knowing experience also, tripping with friends is super fun, tripping alone can induce some real inner thoughts. A pretty good party drug too, however when you take a tab you’re commiting to a full 12 hours of whatever the acid wants to do to you. It’s a lot more manageable than shrooms, although both are psychs it feels like you have a lot more control over your thoughts and the trip overall. Hallucinations tend to the give you the actual “melting” feeling, things start to move and distort, dance and breathe around with the added effect of the reduced ego or “self” it feels as if your turning one with your environments.
Shrooms - i wouldn’t recommend taking these and interacting too much with strangers or really being social, only use it in safe envinronments or trip with friends if you want to have a good time, this trip is a lot deeper on a psychological level you kinda give in to the experience and ride the wave, one of the most common feelings I get is the complete separation from mankind and man made things, you could say it’s a very natural drug, I would recommend using innawoods, beachs, parks etc anything to get you in the grounded and earthy vibes of the trip. The visuals are a bit different than LSD, colors get so fucking intense it’s almost blinding hence using this oportunity to see and be in touch with nice landscapes and scenery, the trip lasts about 6-8 hours also the “afterglow” lasts a lot more than LSD after the trip is done, you’ll feel really happy with the experience and with yourself, however fighting the thought processes, hallucinations and feelings can really put you in a bad trip asap.

Done both multiple times, and these substances have a lot of good learning potential, mainly in what they show you about yourself, even bad trips can be good as they teach you so much through some nasty mental hardships.

if you take it as prescribed and have no side effects which affect your health, it does.
idk why alot of people have such boomer logic when it comes to drugs they talk like they know better than doctors.
assuming you are asking because you have a legitimate reason to be taking it, amphetamine has negligible risk and is generally very safe when taken as prescribed.
we have been using amphetamines for medicinal purposes for 100 years, you will be fine.