Veganism general

I think our consumption of meat is one of the largest-scale examples of cognitive dissonance. Almost everyone hates animal cruelty. The suggest way to piss people off on the internet is to post a helpless dog or cat being abused.

But then those same people turn around and participate in the large-scale inhumane treatment of farm animals. If you care at all about animal suffering then our meat industry is an absolute catastrophe.

Cows aren't as stupid as they're made out to be. Pigs are as smart as a 3yr old. After considering this, I decided to restrict my meat consumption to just chicken, which is better for the environment anyway. It was pretty easy to do.

>literally no they wouldn't. pigs are mammals and like all mammals they are capable of empathy, and they have been scientifically demonstrated to show empathy to other pigs as well as humans. not to mention they largely eat vegetation and in the wild will run away from you if you meet them. only if you are literally dead will they eat your corpse, they dont go around killing humans
Do you have any pigs? I do and they will absolutely eat about anything including deer, racoon and even moles. In fact there have multiple murder cases where pigs where used to dispose of bodies. Now for hogs how can I tell you never have encountered any of them. They can be extremely agressive and many people have been mauled. In fact it's the one thing I worry about the most when I go hog hunting.

As the dominant species of this planet, all other species are property and live or die entirely at our mercy. Nature has seen fit to grant us lots of slaves that we can use however we like.

They're sentient, not sapient. And thank God I'm not a robot.

>like all mammals they are capable of empathy,
I'm gonna need a citation on that.
>in the wild will run away from you if you meet them. only if you are literally dead will they eat your corpse, they dont go around killing humans
You've clearly never seen a wild pig. Those fuckers are dangerous.

OP there is literally no defense for eating meat or even any animal products unless you've raised them yourself as pets.

If you want to speak to people about this topic though, you can't accuse them of monstrous acts and make them feel bad. When confronted with things like this, the average person will retreat into their comfort-zone world view because it's too embarrassing to admit they're wrong.

Honestly, the best thing we can do is to encourage clean meats and convince people to transition to it and not to buy into the farm lobbying. Clean meat will be common and cheaper in the near future and this will solve many of the world's problems, especially environmentally.

Your argument goes out the window once you realize 99.975% of animals aren't aware of their own existence.

Theyre dead already retard. why not eat them? fucking retarded vegans I swear.

>I'm gonna need a citation on that.

psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/animal-emotions/201711/cows-science-shows-theyre-bright-and-emotional-individuals
theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/07/cows-best-friends
peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/cows/hidden-lives-cows/
news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/07/150714-animal-dog-thinking-feelings-brain-science/
sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150428081801.htm
livescience.com/39481-time-to-declare-animal-sentience.html
theconversation.com/heres-what-the-science-says-about-animal-sentience-88047

literally the cambridge declaration on consciousness from 2012 said that animals are sentient and are self-aware

fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf

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>these animals dont want to die, experience torture, live in a small cage their entire life, or be raped
So why don't they do something about it? Why don't they escape their cages or a show resistance against a human being?

A caged human being would do all they can to try and escape their prison. But why do pigs just laze away and eat if they're really intelligent?

If they're aware that they're just being fed so that humans can eat them, why don't they try to communicate with other pigs in their vicinity and hatch an escape plan?

I love the yummy yummy taste of a pigs eviscerated meat in my stummy stummy :) the only sad part is I don't get to do it myself and watch them squeal for their pathetic swine lives

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4 years vegan, I have more energy and I am healthier than my carnist friends

Do you also advocate the end the mindless killing of insects and plants or are those lifeforms not worth protecting because you cant relate to them as a human?
Tldr OP is most likely a shitty hypocrite who thinks certain lifeforms on this planet are worth more than others. Muh animals.

>unless you've raised them yourself as pets
first of all pets cant give you consent for you to eat them, so how does that justify eating them? is it okay to eat mentally retarded people with no family relationships because they are mentally retarded? pets are literally slaves that we breed into existence and castrate for our amusement. how are we justified in eating them just because were stronger than them?

>you can't accuse them of monstrous acts and make them feel bad
see, thats where i disagree. people dont like to be patronized and treated like a child. people ALWAYS like getting raw and being told straight up. treating them like children only encourages more childish behavior. if they're so childish as to behave that way, you cannot be blamed for it

>When confronted with things like this, the average person will retreat into their comfort-zone world view because it's too embarrassing to admit they're wrong
maybe this is for the average person, but i made this thread for a robot. and a robot is a AUTISTIC PERSON. robots have aspergers and are less likely to fall for propaganda and advertising, and when they make decisions in their lives they logically and rationally think things out. real robots arent mentally braindead sheeple that you assume them to be. i dont give a fuck about normies, i made this thread for the real robots

psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-fallible-mind/201708/why-advertising-falls-flat-in-individuals-autism

>Honestly, the best thing we can do is to encourage clean meats and convince people to transition to it and not to buy into the farm lobbying
get this pussy shit out of my face. the best thing to do is to tell it straight up to people why they should be vegan and not pussyfoot around the issue. nobody likes to be patronized

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peas dont make my hunger go away fag

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Wearing psychopathy and logical inconsistency (because I'm sure you would never do that to a human and you can justify why it's ok to do it on an animal but not a human) as a badge of honor.
Stay classy, carnists.

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-Many insects don't even have the neural architecture to feel pain or suffering.
-A vegan diet still kills fewer animal including insects
-For the most part, there are necessary, accidental deaths that we can't really avoid

If you think the fact that we accidentally step on insects justifies me torturing my dog to death, you should rethink your position.

Deep down, I don't care about animals all that much. I just want my food to taste good and I want it to be convenient for me to make and eat. Sure, ultimately that's me being a dick for putting my preferences in front of the needs of animals, but that's how I feel about the matter.

I know this is a bait thread, but I don't think I've ever actually heard this point rebutted.
Why the hell are vegans so eager to boast about how much they do to ease the suffering of animals, but don't give a modicum of a shit about the literal millions of impoverished, dying humans on the planet? You don't see them serving the community, working in soup kitchens or even donating money (probably because they spend all of it on supplements), just bragging online and chugging double shot dairy free extra onions triple foam choccaccinos from Starcucks and strutting around in the latest t-shirt made by some underpaid Chinese kid.
Vegans care more about animals (and more realistically their own perceived moral superiority) than they do humans.

I don't feel guilt for eating something that used to be sentient, or killing/torturing something that is sentient other than humans. Their suffering gives me 0 guilt. This might seem immoral to some but it's not to me. But it's not like I intentionally torture things for my entertainment, I just don't care wether they are tortured or not.

Also, a large majority of meat is produced on friendly, local, humane farms and not factory farms apparently.

I am suffering at my own hand, not anyone elses. My genetics are the only problem I have that wasn't caused by my own poor decision making.

>if ur not a vegan ur not a robot
this is just semantics, shut your veggie hole.

also probably just bait =/

>first of all pets cant give you consent for you to eat them, so how does that justify eating them?
I was referring to keeping chickens for eggs for example. a chicken can have a decent life as a pet

>people dont like to be patronized and treated like a child
I think you give people too much credit. literally just look at how many religious people exist in the world. the only reason most people are religious is because they were brought up religious and are too ingrained and stubborn to admit they're wrong. the implications of living most of your life holding a fundamentally wrong point of view is too much for many to handle.

>robots have aspergers and are less likely to fall for propaganda and advertising
how can you say this after witnessing them fall for incel / blackpill propaganda?

>get this pussy shit out of my face. the best thing to do is to tell it straight up to people why they should be vegan and not pussyfoot around the issue. nobody likes to be patronized
I'm telling you dude you're not going to get anywhere with this. I predict that in 100 years, we will look back with horror at how animals were treated and the fact that ~ 80% of all agriculture is cultivated to feed the food that feeds us, not to mention that animal farming creates more emissions than all forms of transportation combined. but what will guide us into that new future will definitely be clean meats. no doubt about it

1. This shouldn't stop YOU from going vegan. What other vegans do with their time has nothing to do with whether a vegan diet is objectively more ethical or not. Veganism is about NOT consuming animal products. It doesn't necessarily require you to spend time doing something you don't already do. You just pick different foods at the grocery store.
If you want to be a vegan AND donate to the most effective charities out there, that's what you should do.
2. the comment about supplements is funny, but not true. There are many reports showing that everybody not taking sunlight everyday needs vitamin D supplements, so you should take them anyway. The only supplement vegans need on top of that is vitamin B12, which is extremely cheap.
3. Considering how atrocious mass factory farming is (which is literally 99% of meat out there), there are very few humans on the planet who are going though what these animals go through. This should make you pause for a second and consider why vegans care "so much" about animals.

Im just tired of moralizing vegan cucks were all part of a cycle of life on this planet each lifeform devouring the ones smaller than it to sustain and grow. You cant avoid it. Should a lion become vegan or keep doing what a lion does murdering antilopes n shit? Now its true we humans can somewhat detach ourselves from this and use lesser lifeforms like insects and plants instead of animals but in the end its the same shit. Welp i cant see myself eating beans for the rest of my life and muh animals doesnt motivate me but let me know if insect based foods or lab grown meat becomes affordable and ill switch unless youre against lab grown meat too (muh cells?) lul

I'd like to torture dogs to death. Might move to China and live among the bug people so I can justify my years of not maliciously harming dogs.

>Why the hell are vegans so eager to boast about how much they do to ease the suffering of animals, but don't give a modicum of a shit about the literal millions of impoverished, dying humans on the planet?
this is trivial whataboutism. give me any belief that you hold and i can recreate your argument in that context. it's not a valid argument

>Also, a large majority of meat is produced on friendly, local, humane farms and not factory farms apparently.
this isn't true. and organic farms end up being worse for the environment than factory farms, so either way you're losing

the rest of the arguments in this thread are about "animals aren't sentient" or "i don't care about animals" or other memes. and we all know these are bad faith arguments because those same people would be outraged at people abusing dogs and cats

>Should a lion become vegan or keep doing what a lion does murdering antilopes n shit?
You answer your own question here. A lion needs meat to survive. So that's necessary suffering, as opposed to unnecessary suffering (humans eating meat when they have alternatives).
If in the future there is a way to intervene in nature to reduce suffering of animals in the wild without causing more suffering overall, I would support it.

Lab grown meat is actually a good point and every vegan should support it (since lab-grown meat is actually vegan, as the definition of vegan is "a lifestyle that tries to reduce as much as reasonably possible the suffering and death of animals").

The point is that until we do have lab-grown meat, maybe avoiding paying people to kill animals is still a very important and good thing.

Meat is tasty, we are at the top of the food chain and the closest thing we have to an objective morality doesn't apply to animals. Moral arguments based on the subjective will always lose.

>needing consent to kill
that sounds stupid

is a cow in a farm a lab grown meat?

Pseudo intellect get outta here. You facilitate an industry that makes billions of creatures like yourself miserable and live in atrocious conditions because "hurr durr muh bacon". You're addicted to a taste.
>inb4 muh protein
You can consume an equally if not a superior nutritious diet through non meat products. It'll be the standard in 25 years.

You're still making a moral argument. There's nothing psuedo about it, objective morality simply doesn't extend to animals. Produce an argument worthwhile or stop.

>Meat is tasty
>its too inconvinient for me to change so ill just keep doing what im doing
great willpower you have there m8. i wonder, if you go vegan, would it be the single hardest thing you've ever done in your life? i guess some people are so weak willed that changing their diet up a bit is the hardest thing they've ever done
yourveganfallacyis.com/en/going-vegan-is-too-hard

>we are at the top of the food chain
>because we are more powerful than everyone else, that makes it okay to treat them any way we want
>i like abusing other people when i have power because its fun, but when other people more powerful than me abuse me i cry and scream against those evil inhumane monsters. how could anyone mistreat me?!

> the closest thing we have to an objective morality doesn't apply to animals
>objective morality
morality is subjective, but just because its subjective doesnt mean you think killing animals is ethical. if you think its wrong for someone else to castrate, enslave and kill you, but you do it for other people, then you just have a double standard. you just change the goalpost at your convenience

>Moral arguments based on the subjective will always lose
wrong. what they will do is simply point out how hypocritical you're being. now as to why you should stop being a hypocrite, this question could easily ask for another 500+ post thread

the best reason why in my opinion to sto being a hypocrite is because god is real. and if god is real, by definition, if you are a hypocrite you are immoral. max tegmark, a MIT physics professor went vegan when he started believe in god. and what convinced him god exists was super intelligent ai

youtube.com/watch?v=Jtb07GLb5Ss

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>objective morality simply doesn't extend to animals
why not? shouldn't morality extend to all conscious beings? if it only extends to creatures as intelligent as the average human, then it doesn't extend to the mentally retarded. if it extends to all humans, then why? there isn't anything intrinsically valuable about "humanness" compared to other sentient life

>Only recognizing those who help you get a gf
My you are one desperate individual.

shut the fuck up retard youre a nerdy retard youre not at the top of a food chain because a bunch of Mexicans mass slaughter animals that they totally control forcibly with MACHINES

if you were in nature you wouldn't kill a fucking cow with your bare hands youre fucking moron youd be planting seeds or sitting around bitching

if we took away your glasses youre nerdy bitch ass couldn't even function youre not at the top of any food chain you virgin fuck

Vegans and other moralfags OUT
>>>/reddit/

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calm down cutie. you can't make coherent arguments when you're seething with rage. i still think you're cute for being compassionate to animals though ;3

>willpower
Not an argument I have made, try harder with the strawman. Whether or not something is hard or easy doesn't matter (and it's really fucking easy to not eat meat these days) it's just something I don't care to do.

>you think eating animals is fine so must agree with animal abuse
Another strawman.

>morality is subjective
Objective morality is a microcosm of society. Whatever benefits the ingroup without harming it is an objectively moral action, anything past that is subjective. Read plato.

>some point that has nothing to do with anything
You need to understand the point above to be able to refute why moral arguments based on subjective things will always lose.

See above about morality as a reflection of wider society.

Moralfagging in favour of veganism will literally never be a viable tactic. Talk about how it's better for the environment or something, then you might actually have someone take you seriously. Until then, don't waste people's time with this tripe. Not that this is a serious thread anyway, just so happens to crop up at the same time as the tranny threads and all of the political ones. Nice psyop.

No. I don't really know what you are trying to say here.

This is why I hunt. Cost of a deer or the like comes to the cost of a bullet + tag cost. That and they usually die straight away or at the very least rather quickly. Also, you know where your meat has been and how fresh it is.

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>morality is a reflection of society
>society should behave morally
you have a circular definition here bro

you think you actually cracked the case on this one but you only revealed the level of your retardation

I said morality AS a reflection of society, not that it is one. Google what microcosm means. Refute the argument or stop posting.

Well apes use tools to eat termites, so why shouldn't humans use tools to eat cows?
Plus, I never said I was top of the food chain, a baby spider money would fuck me up if I was bare handed

Lmao i just ate 3 chicken breasts

op here. you're bad at copying me, stop it. im using this name from now on to distinguish me from my impersonators

i understand you feel depressed and isolated and you have to understand that statistically, years of abuse has made a lot of robots mildly psychopathic. but just because you have psychopathic thoughts, doesn't justify hurting others. just because someone hurt you, it doesn't justify hurting other people. these animals are entirely defenseless and fully sentient. just because you've been hurt in life, doesnt make it okay to go around hurting others as much as you want. im sure you think the people who abused you are horrible people and that you'd never treat other people in the ways that other people treated you

also in the same book, brian gilmartin talks about the reason why people are lifelong virgins might be due to karma. previous life karma might be a reason why, and statistically adult male virgins all believe in the existence of god and in spirituality, etc. its the chad non-virgin males who dont believe in god. i can post more pictures in a sec

stop being a hypocrite and go vegan. being vegan is synonymous with being a robot, because you just want to live your life without hurting others. its the normies who enjoy hurting others, which is why i dont even speak about this subject to normies, i only make it in imageboards for virgins like r9k, 8ch r9k and wizchan

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What do you eat instead? I barely eat meat, like once a month if someone makes it for me. But I suck at knowing what to buy.

You need farm animals to produce the fertilizers needed for a healthy agriculture, there cannot be a vegan farm that works in the long run, because if you use the soil for agriculture, and only use ethical "mineral fertilizers" and pesticides then in under 50 years, the soil is dead, saturated with minerals the insects are no more and you cannot use it to produce food anymore.
That's why farms have a percentage of their food production coming from animals, their shit fertilizes the soil and allows insects to provide nutrient to the plants.
Also, pretty hypocritical to be an "antispecist vegan" since the vegan diet guarantees the death of tons of insects through chemical fertilizers and pesticides.

Also, humans are at the top of every hierarchy on earth, so who cares if we kill animals, animals already kill each other way more violently than we do, at least we kill our food before eating it.

>objective morality is a microcosm of society
meaning objective morality encapsulates characteristic qualities or features of society. but at the same time, society ought to behave according to this objective morality

it's still a circular definition bro. you can play this word game all you like, but you're not getting out of this pit of retardation

now let's see what objective morality really means:
it's that there are certain intrinsic moral values that are properties of the universe and in fact independent of the society we live in and that we as a society ought to strive toward those values.

so basically it means the opposite of what you think it means idiot

Someone give me a short list on what to eat daily and you will change my mind

It tastes good to me. Vegans can find their shit delicious but I don't like any of it.

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Let's say the entire world decides to go vegan. What do we do with all the livestock we've been raising for their delicious meat?

replace meat with mushrooms, lentils, beans, nuts, or others

just remove dairy. dairy is shit and you don't need it. if you absolutely must have some sort of milk-like thing, use almond milk not onions milk

eggs are the toughest thing to cut out. you can ethically get eggs if you really check out where you're getting them. for now, just stick with the eggs since they're a pretty good food source, versatile and hard to replace

>logically defend eating meat
I like eating meat
>In before the triggered war cries of 9000 vegans who can't deal with people not embracing the lifestyle they themselves have

>logically defend false rape allegations
I like seeing men suffer

not an argument sorry

>It's not logical to do something you enjoy doing
Yeah sure downsie

yes but animals aren't people, retard.

>b-but officer i really really wanted to do this thing

Logical does not equal legal you double retard

laws aren't always fucking logical retard.

>Suing mcdonalds for burning your own tongue in hot coffee is legal and therefore it is logical that mcdonalds is responsible if a customer burns their dumbfuck of a tongue on hot coffee

>eggs are the toughest thing to cut out
maybe for you, but statistically for most people dairy is the hardest thing to cut. dairy is so difficult to cut because it literally has morphine in it. cow's milk has morphine in it so the baby calf can get addicted to the milk and continue drinking it, and also to build a bond between mother and child

youtube.com/watch?v=1hE6lhQu7k4

>you can ethically get eggs if you really check out where you're getting them
no you cant, eggs are derived from slavery. you have to genetically breed chickens produce more eggs than they naturally would. chickens in the wild produce something like 17 eggs a YEAR on average, and genetically bred chickens in captivity produce 200 eggs a year. the eggs are not yours, they are the chickens. its unethical to take them away from the chicken. if an alien civilization was farming human females only for their period blood, and killing the male chicks and genetically altering the human female so she has periods every 2 days, do you think that would be ethical. please stop saying chickens and eggs are ethical. vegetarianism is NOT ETHICAL, only veganism is

yourveganfallacyis.com/en/eating-dairy-products-is-not-unethical
yourveganfallacyis.com/en/eggs-are-not-unethical

>lentils, beans
yep. i eat beans everyday. im literally addicted to them, i unironically cant quit, and i tried like 10 times. heres some vegan stew i made. also heres some youtube vegan cooking channels so you can copy if you dont know how to get started

youtube.com/watch?v=DuIUssE9BF4
youtube.com/watch?v=3AUo5zja1-0

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Answer the fucking question, you leaf-eating fudge-packer.

i'm not even a vegetarian or vegan desu. i'm just larping because i like to argue with people and it's really easy to argue from the vegan side. sorry to disappoint cutie :

they would be sent to animal santuaries where they'd live the rest of their lives in peace. but most of the animals would simply die and wont breed, so technically it would be a genocide. but it's still EASILY the most merciful thing to do, because right now they are living in literal hell. a genocide is a act of mercy to anyone living in hell. these animals shouldn't even exist in the first place. stop financially rewarding their rape and torture, these animals shouldn't exist

yeah, i think its fun to larp as a vegan too. even though im a vegan, sometimes i like to start threads with the intention of doing nothing but shitposting and smug anime posting and laughing at everyone. its actually really fun because of how bad everyone's responses are. ive since stopping doing that because its arguably unethical, because im sure some people take the subject seriously and dont like being mocked and laughed at, but im not some angel who is above doing a few mischievous shitposting

desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/50885363/

heres proof that 25+ year old virgins do believe in god

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If you really want to be healthy you can buy legumes for protein, like beans and lentils. Then whole grain pasta, rice. A bunch of vegetables, avocados, nuts and seeds.
That's pretty much the healthiest diet you can eat.

If you're ok eating some less-healthy (but still healthy) good, you can go for meat alternatives (there are plenty of products nowadays, some are actually pretty nice).
You can eat pizza (without cheese obviously, which is the classic pizza "marinara").
You can do all kinds of normal recipes, just use plant milks like almond milk as opposed to cow's milk.

These are a few suggestions.

Daily response time
I'd eat human if it was farmed
If I was raised and only alive to be eaten then I wouldn't mind being eaten
Thread over

>animals such as pigs, chickens and cows are fully sentient and conscious
pigs eat their own children and roll around in the mud
chickens eat rocks and shit out eggs they are also birds and birds don't have fucking feelings
cows are fucking stupid and gay
>suffer tremendously as a result of your taste-bud preferences.
No they don't, retard.
>animal products consumption are commonly associated in the medical literature with things like obesity and heart disease
You're fucking retarded. They aren't. Processed meats and shit ARE. Organic shit isn't.
>and its extremely unethical. enslaving
Enslaving? How is it slavery? The definition of slavery is "a person held in servitude as the chattel of another". Cows, chickens, and pigs aren't fucking people and cannot be slaves.
>torturing
There's no torture, retard. Factory farms have shit living conditions for animals but that isn't torture.
>castrating
We castrate our pets too? Also castration is saved for the cows that are a lot of trouble
>raping
No. The only people who rape these animals are hicks downcountry inbred retards who can't even fuck their cousin so they have to resort to fucking a cow. Bestiality is illegal.
>murdering
It's not really murder. Definition of murder is "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another." Disregarding the human being part, animals get killed by animals all the time. Whether it be for food or not.
>do you think theres any irony in by eating meat you are contributing to suffering that is FAR AND AWAY in excess of anything that you've suffered in life, yet you have the nerve to complain about your petty problems?
People are selfish you retard. It's human nature. Animals are often selfish as well.
>dont you think eating meat is hypocritical of you,
It's not. Their suffering is caused by the people who kilk the animals. Not the people who just pick the meat off of a shelf and eat it.

I've already cut out dairy it's the meat substitute I don't understand. And mushrooms is out my family doesn't like it. So what am I cooking with those things? Or am I supposed to eat it plain? Can you eat fish? But for someone who doesn't like eggs,dairy,fish,mushrooms how do I actually get enough protein and nutrients/food to not be starving or malnourished like I am right now ? I've tried looking it up online but everywhere says everything is bad for you, just depends where you read it. You know the lifestyle, I just don't have a good understanding of those things. Help

>So why don't they do something about it?
because they literally dont speak english. they have the cognitive capacity of a mentally disabeled retard. but they can still suffer just as deeply as a human can

>Why don't they escape their cages or a show resistance against a human being?
they try to, but its very difficult for them, because they are stupid and weak, and humans are infinitely smarter and stronger. it took nigger slaves hundreds of years to be freed from slavery, and nigger slaves speak english and fought back much harder than animals

>A caged human being would do all they can to try and escape their prison. But why do pigs just laze away and eat if they're really intelligent?
they're obviously not intelligent enough to use human language to express their feelings and thoughts

>why don't they try to communicate with other pigs in their vicinity and hatch an escape plan?
they cant use language, but just because they're too stupid to have a verbal language doesnt mean they aren't sentient or cant suffer

youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?t=824

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Ever since I took the steak pill (went carnivore) my depression is gone, I have a lot more energy, much less acne/blackheads, I no longer need to take naps all the time and I strongly encourage you sad vegans to just get it over with and admit that a vegan diet is as unnatural as it is gay.

Now excuse me while I finish this steak.

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don't ask me. i'm a dumb larper. you have to ask but you claim to not like a lot of things, and if there is one thing i do know about picky eaters is that they usually haven't been exposed to good cooking with those ingredients

okay jordan memerson

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meat good

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are you a virgin btw? do you self-identify as a virginal robot?

I don't give a shit about the opinion of a malnourished subhuman.
I like meat, it's healthy for us omnivores. I've personally slaughtered my food as well. Go choke on a bag of dicks. You veganfags are almost as bad as trannies.

You are obviously trolling, but for people who will take your post seriously:
an anecdote doesn't mean anything, especially when the placebo effect can be so strong.
There are anecdotes of special diets curing pretty much anything or helping people's lives, raw vegan diet, carnivore diet, shit diet, breathing diet. Anecdotes don't mean anything.
You have to show results with studies using a double blind placebo controlled trials (when possible).

A carnivore diet lacks in essentials nutrients, unless you are literally taking all of them from multivitamins. Not to mention extremely unhealthy.

You want one anecdote?
The canivore doctor who went on the Joe Rogan podcast. When he did a blood test, his cholesterol was through the roof.

I'm not it's my bf so he ends up eating things I like which is like cereal oatmeal all without milk bc he hates it and he eats meat and I eat eggs but we both don't like touching meat and I don't really care about eating it

>Cows are fucking stupid and gay
Based

>you: "honey try this fad diet with me"
>him: groooan "here we go again! women, am i right fellas?" archie_bunker.jpg

just forget about it senpai. it's not gonna work for you two

fucking this desu
also vittu

also fuck op
>muh eating meat is bad whaha

I can't logically defend it but I'm gonna keep eating meat anyway because I'm too much of a bitch to give it up.

Meat thread

For me, it's roasted pig

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based

for me, its smoked meat

this is the only honest response and is what most meat eaters truly believe if they are being honest

Cant stop the meat train

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for me, it's roasted pooch

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>You veganfags are almost as bad as trannies
im glad that atleast you dont equate us with the degenerate transexuals who ruin this board. you know, vegans are just trying to stop animal abuse and animal exploitation. its a philosophy centered around reducing needless suffering. there are some genuine robot heterosexual virgin males who are vegan, such as myself (im 28 kv NEET btw). btw are you a virginal robot?

>Can you eat fish?
no, fish are sentient animals, and eating them is not vegan

> how do I actually get enough protein and nutrients/food to not be starving or malnourished like I am right now ?
beans and lentils and nuts provide tons of protien
youtube.com/watch?v=miewQbf6PJA
vegan gains does in depth of where you can get your protiens and how much cheaper it is

one of the best ways to go vegan is just to associate the tortured screams of animals with meat. literally just watch these videos and you'll feel disgusted eating it

youtube.com/watch?v=WiNLNf8qSD0
youtu.be/KArL5YjaL5U?t=2953

these videos are the norm btw

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Kangaroos are pretty tasty too hey

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>A carnivore diet lacks in essentials nutrients, unless you are literally taking all of them from multivitamins. Not to mention extremely unhealthy.

you mean like all the fat soluble vitamins that you vegans are not getting from plant foods?
I am taking multivitamins also known as eggs.
your post is very B12 deficient.
cholesterol is essential for building cells.

My sister is a vegan for many years and she is aging rapidly,while I am not, there are more and more vegans out there realizing how they have been duped. Veganism is not healthy.

Let's say I stopped eating meat, what does it do in the bigger picture? Nothing. Just because I stop eating meat, doesn't mean people are just gonna magically stop butchering pigs. I know what OP is trying to go for here, but even if the entirety of Jow Forums stop eating meat right now, nothing will actually happen. Just a bunch of robots being more depressed as usual because they don't eat delicious meat anymore while the normalfags continue to go at their day, enjoying life, while eating meat.