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Is the redistribution of wealth, and regulating tax evasion really a bad thing?

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everything is a bad thing. this world was a mistake.

America will tell you it's a bad thing because the top 1% who run this country are money hoarders and will lose their minds if someone takes away the billions of dollars that they will literally never spend

It's their hard earned money.

Will Yang help me find Love? Friends? Purpose? Respect? He doesnt have that kind of power.

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This will make you extremely happy user.

based and transcendentalpilled

Absolute gommunism = bad

From the state: Universal basic income, education until 18, healthcare, infrastructure = good

Laissez faire capitalism with limits on upper wealth (Individuals don't really need hundreds of billions of personal wealth, somewhere in the tens would be a nice limit and the rest gets contributed back to society) and a safety net for the least well off.

It's not, most of them were given the money by someone else but what's the point of having all of that money when you'll only spend a fraction of it? They literally won't notice it's gone. There are people starving in America, Meanwhile you have these boss babies putting gold flakes on pizzas.

People earning $20k a year work hard
People earning $40k a year work their butts off and put in mad hours
People earning $100k a year work hard and smart and all of the above, and probably spent money and years of their life doing a degre
People earning $1M a year have other people doing the work for them
People earning $10M+ a year have other people having other people do the work for them
Billionaires are so far removed from where their money is coming from that they could spend the rest of their natural lives on vacation in the Bahamas and their profits would still be increasing every year

I've already seen his policies. I dont need or want any of that.

Idk about that but ubi is necessary to keep the economy going retards

Anyone who doesn't vote yang wants people to die off as jobs shrink these are facts.

It's because they have built something so effective that they can just sit around and cash in on the profits. Just get good son.

What happens when efficiency eliminates workers for robots and there are almost no jobs and suddenly nobody is buying your shit?

Eliminate poor people.

>Hard earned
Orifigional

Wow what a great solution. You make my peepee hard with your intelligence

>t. doesn't know how companies work
Bezos and co are so rich because they own a significant percentage of the (very successful) company they built and when said company performs well, they become richer via dividends and capital appreciation.
You don't have to work for Bezos, go start your own company... and see how well you do lol.

Old economic models are finished and the change is coming much more rapidly than people expect. The only thing valuable will be resources. Before the 2020 election you will see programs that can generate commissioned art better than most professional artists and voice act better than most voice actors. The research to do it is already there and the incentive to automate it is high. It's just a matter of time.

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Your best bet is to vote Sanders. Yang's policies, while good, are not going to be very palatable to the hoard of plebs that make up the majority of voters.
Sanders has name recognition, and could serve as a stepping stone towards achieving some of yang's policies.

Yeah your sarcasm about the potential to create wealth is pretty indicative of the reality of capitalism. The ones who make it big are extremely lucky, and good for them, but no person really needs that much money all to themselves. Their wealth is not proportional to their effort.

Then you're the poor person you dumbass

That's pretty optimistic. I'd give it at least another 10 years.

Fuck sanders this isn't about the left.

You're right but it's not going to be before the 2020 election, that's still too early. Those types of programs won't start to truly become relevant until sometime late next decade.

>The only thing valuable will be resources.
Brainlet spotted, new art never had any value anyway, art is considered valuable because it's collectable.

????? Is yang not politically left?

I understand he is a liberal but please just stay out of this if you're left...

>socialism
>bread
Choose one

Are you rarted? Liberals are the ones you want to side with if you really want any of yang's policies to come to fruition. You're sure as hell not going to get any support from the right.

Yang will be better off without your support, thank you. Seriously just stay on the sidelines this time.

So socialism has finally come to America.
Maybe it's time to start hoarding.

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If you actually believe that they managed to build that without the massive amounts of skimmed off, surplus labour value from all of those people in the aforementioned 20k to 100k bracket, you're a fucking boomer-lackey, rube moron and you should actually kill yourself.

He's not gonna win. The two party system is too engrained in our society for any third party candidate to win

woah wealth redistrubutionism (not socialism)!!!!!!

next we might even address the climate change crisis currently turning out planet into an unlivable hellhole.

I would consider voting for this faggot if he got rid of his gun restrictions.

>redistribution of wealth
What policy of his redistributes wealth?

That's the price you pay for being uncreative. If you're good enough you would go and build something and become wealthy.

This would be good if those individuals were using the money in a wise way to improve the country or planet and its future but its mostly for hedonism.

If everyone suddenly did this and they were all equally skilled would they all be succesfull in acquiring wealth? Because the answer is no only a select few would again be wealthy and the rest not because thats how our pyramid like system works.

But that's the point. Most people are brainlets and therefore can only work 9 to 5s (hell some people can't even get 9 to 5 jobs). Ultra successful people are on a different level.
If you look at Bezos, before he did Amazon he was at DE Shaw, a place so selective they only hire 1 out of every 500 applicants.

That's why he's running as a liberal retard. It's actually the only reason he's running as a democrat because he wants to win this election and its going to be Trump V Democrat

>false flag
yang is not socialist

that's not what the government is for

not him but yang is a democrat

if you take money from some people, unequally, and give it to everyone, equally, wealth is still being redistributed.

I can tell you right now that socialism is not going to work the way you think it will work.

In the most simplest of terms, socialism is the redistribution of wealth from the individual to the state. You're advocating for the state to tax people even more than they already do, and we see how responsible they are with our money so far (trillions of dollars in debt) and you expect them to evenly distribute all that money to everyone that's less fortunate. Yea, not gonna happen. There is absolutely nothing you can do in a socialist state to influence what they do with your money. They took your money by force, it's not your money anymore. It's basically "Fuck you, we have your money now, come do something about it :^)))" with those people. They're not going to give everyone NEETbux, they're going to suck your wallet dry and redistribute the collective wealth among themselves and their friends. You're not going to see many NEETbux from this. You're not going to see the dissolution of any class structure, you will only see the exaggeration of the current class structure. There won't be any middle class, there won't be any disposable income, and there's no chance in Hell you're going to become wealthy enough to escape the forced poverty of a socialist system.

You will either work in a factory for 12 hours a day or be lucky enough to be born into a wealthy family. You will be worked like a slave if socialism is ever implemented. Do you know why? Because you're just a silly tax-payer and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. What you socialists criticize capitalism for is only exaggerated by socialism.

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>In the most simplest of terms, socialism is the redistribution of wealth from the individual to the state
You think taxation = socialism? That's even sillier than the claim that taxation = theft!

Socialism (assuming we're referring to the contemporary kind not the archaic definition that was based on ownership of means of production) redistributes wealth directly according to well defined criteria, but more importantly it reduces the economic barriers (like tuition fees) that are preventing people from making themselves more productive.

Yes, but once you tax the civilian, how do you make sure the newly distributed wealth is used for that? Pro tip: You can't. You're a silly taxpayer, your opinion means jack shit because they have just robbed you. It's like telling a nigger who just robbed you "Hey man, go buy some condoms with that!". He's not going to buy condoms with it, he's going to buy malt liquor. Point is, it's not your money to spend. You've moved the wealth from your own pockets to someone else's.

Even then, why can't you fund some sort of education charity yourself where you can fund some other guy's education? Why exactly does the government have to do that? Be the change you want in the world, friend. Give your hard earned money to some charity who will give a soul less fortunate than you a college education. :^)

It's the spending rather than the taxation that is the defining feature of socialism.

You could look at it from an MMT perspective: the government spends the money first, which increases the amount of money in the economy. The government then has to raise taxes to avoid the currency losing its value.

So you're saying it's 100% ok to have a system where the *government* spends money that the civilian has no control over? You do realize that what they're spending money on isn't going to be any sort of education program or NEETbux meme, right? They're going to build factories with as little money as possible with unsafe conditions, and they're going to set up a system that forces you to work in that factory for 12 hours a day, then they'll take your money via tax, and this will sustain its self as there is no escape. Notice how when the government subsidizes things, there is bare minimum effort. Where is all that money going? Don't be foolish, it's not staying in a public reserve, it's being spent by some rich faggots on a Caribbean island.

>dude expensive college lol
>dude education gets u better job lol
Universities are private in the US, the people who own these institutions will kick like Hell if their little scam is threatened by socialism. The government isn't going to give taxpayer money to the scammers directly, that's why they give *the student* the loan, so the student is liable for whatever bullshit the scammers pull. "Oopsie doopsies :^((( we fucked up with your loan and gave you a false idea of getting an education in our money racket, time to give us your house :^)))". It's all a giant money racket, they're only milking you dry for that juicy money. The rich kids who are born to succeed in this little system are the ones who will go to a private school with a no-bullshit approach and they'll get a job with their prestigious private education and their connections with the employers, who are inevitably a part of the elite who are subsidized by the Government, you see.
It's all a big funnel, the socialists take everyone's wealth and pockets it.

Yeah and we typically take a little bit of everyone's money in order to keep this whole fucking system going in the first place.

If the rich had any foresight they'd know they need to keep their host country stable.

>Laissez faire capitalism with limits on upper wealth
based retard

lol yang is a good meme but your idea of the world just doesn't make sense, and you talk about the mythical 1% all the time but it's not the only people you're taking from

Yang isn't a socialist, moron.

The rich do have foresight. That's why they keep most of their money in offshore accounts, so they can pretend they have less money than they really do and pay less taxes. If a socialist revolution happens in America the rich will just leave the country, and then both they and their money will be completely untouchable.

>leave america
why would rich entrepreneurs leave america? Isn't this the best place for businesses to flourish? I thought we offered something to capitalists no-one else in the world offers!

>he thinks a rich person's net worth is just money they have in a vault somewhere and not the companies and infrastructure that they own which function as a part of society.

>If a socialist revolution happens in America

What wouldn't I give to see America in ruins. Puts a smile on my face.

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Trump is literally a Jew cock sucker, I dont even care anymore just give me 1k a month a keep me docile

>abortions
No thanks, degenerate roasties fucking chad with no consequences is not what I want. I just want a reactionary revolution that will put women in their place like based Ayatollah Khomeini did in Iran. Why can't we have that?

Well that's not going to happen but Trump's probably your best bet.

>trump is not right wing enough
many keks
trump is just stupid, he doesn't have an opinion except 'i need more money'

>Trump
>right wing
Pick one hes literally a New York Democrat kike lover

Well why don't you try to convince more Trump supporters to vote Yang then?

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If they had true foresight they would play their employees more. The system cannot exist if there are no consumers with money.