Have you actually tried getting with an ugly, fat woman in your league?

The league shit doesn't work. Girls can always get casual sex from more attractive men than the ones they can get as boyfriends.

>The only sex I've had
fuck off and die normalnigger
how so?

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and I'm not a Chad in the slightest
fuck, I would literally burn an orphanage for a 4/10

>try to go for an ugly girl to see if I had any chance
>she seems very interested in me
>take her out on a date (just a coffee)
>have to sit there and listen to her boring bullshit
>probably the most boring person I have ever met in my life
>she talks about her singing and her family
>likeIgiveashityouuglypossiblecumdumpster.jpeg
>she wasnt even into sex and avoided talking about that topic as much as she could
>Stop texting her right after the "date"

As much as I dont like thots and roasties I must say being in their presence is much nicer than being in presence of ugly girls. Sure roasties are boring too but you can turn off your brain and just nod to everything a roastie says while imagining her naked sexy body and how you would fuck it. You cant do that with ugly girls.

>inb4 edgy faggot

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Story of my life. And twenty bucks that what robots call 5/10 is actually an 8/10.
>"but muh looksmatch"

I can get attractive girls, because attractive girls have been attracted to me in the past. Im just so unbelievably autistic that I cant seal the deal.

My standards aren't necessarily rooted in looks either. The girl needs to be intelligent and fun to be around.

The fat girls at group therapy were very polite and respectably friendly but had no intention of dating me. They all came from abusive backgrounds, some were even raped, and probably wouldn't have sex with anyone. It's not worth it. Even if they opened up, this is a woman's world now, and I'd be in prison for years because of an accusation.

As for ugly girls, they might as well not exist; my standards don't, perhaps. I've never seen an ugly girl in person but when I went on OkCupid, the only match I got was a poor girl with a chromosomal disorder that made her into a real orc. She was mildly retarded and obsessed with Disney princesses. I think she was a good person inside but the only 1/10 I've ever laid eyes on. As bad as the ones you see on those tier lists people post. We had nothing in common and it would never work. I'm not the prince she wants to rescue her.

Imagine how easy a boring girl like her would be to manipulate, though. You could slowly break her down, pull out all the tricks in the book, and she's probably sheltered enough she has no protection. You could end up doing anything to her and string her along forever. Separate her from her precious family. Why would you want an intelligent woman anyway? It would be a constant struggle for control.

If she is stupid enough to be manipulated by me then there huge possibility of her cucking me with some other better manipulator. I aint risking that chief.

Screams control issues.

>she talks about her singing and her family

This sounds nice though.

If you play your cards right, you can isolate her completely. I'm talking about the real simple minded ones. Support her staying home and quitting her job, get her to stop seeing friends, and lastly, cut her family off by moving away together. She'll have no one to reach out to and you can coerce her into never leaving your house/apartment. This would only work if you had money to move though. It would be hard but the girl you described, who loves her family and sings, is also the type you can turn into a slave. Study cults and brainwashing and get her to sing hyms about you to your children in the compound you build. She's the perfect type to mold, user.

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No
I am an ugly person who wouldn't date ugly women
Happy now?

based Manson poster

Yes, and it worked. She wasn't ugly, just not super hot like the girls i'd been interested in before.

Seems like you wasted a chance with a nice girl. Enjoy being lonely, user.

Even the ugly only want 10/10 chads with luxury cars.

And no i won't bother with a whale, if she doesn't respect her body why should i respect her, let alone date her, not saying a little fat isn't ok, but if you have 2 chins or look like a barrel you're a disgusting pig, STOP STUFFING YOUR FACE.

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most ugly girls have extreme self-awareness of their own ugliness, sadly, that makes them less inclined to show us their personalities (personalities that, in 95% of the cases, are leagues better than the ones of your average "basic bitch" or your instagram stacy)

Tomoko grows as a person though. And she does have friends.

>Have you actually tried getting with an ugly, fat woman in your league?
Yes

First one rejected me after I tried to make out with her while at her place watching movies and playing videogames. She turned into some depressed lesbian right afterwards. I literally turned a girl lesbian because she was so disgusted that I was into her lol.

Second one was some half-Sri Lankan girl who was into me but she was literally so braindead that it was a bother to try and pretend I had anything in common with her (she failed special needs school). Still I actually did kiss her and fondle her titties in a McDonalds at 4am on her birthday one time.
I felt sorry for this girl since she had a rough life if everything she told me is true (got molested as a kid by family for example, among a bunch of other stuff)

Third one was a friend of the second one that we met while out in town drinking late at night, this was a year later though, she was also fat and also extremely retarded (they both used to live in the same foster home or something like that)
The third one actually lost interest in me faster than I lost interest in her but it was no hard loss since I barely knew her anyway. She also talked in a downy voice even though she wasnt a downy which was a bit of a turn off. All three of them were quite unattractive facially wise and also overweight.

This is basically life as a 3/10 genetically inferior mentally ill beta male who is a looksmatch with pic related. A guy who read non-fiction literature by people like Popper or Pinker as a teenager can only date girls who literally failed special needs and can't write more complex text messages than mentally stunted one-liners. I'm not saying I want someone who's a genius, just someone who is at least a bit intellectually curious and capable of articulating herself in an expressive manner when communicating with me. I don't care if they're fat or otherwise unattractive.

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unrelated but where do I start with non fiction? I mostly read fiction stuff and some of my favorites are strictly fiction.

I am not fat so no, they aren't in my league.

idk bout you, but fat women in general just honestly disgusts me so I see you lose nothing

nah, I've only dated attractive girls but that's easy because I'm a naturally attractive male But I fucking hate women and want to be domed by a big daddy that will fuck my ass till I can't walk hnnnng.

none of them want me, even "ugly" women become good looking and find some fucking normie beta for themselves.

Your story sounds similar to mine. I only had two matches in the entire state of California on OkCupid and one had Down Syndrome and the other was an arab girl with cerebral palsy who lived in assisted living at age 19. Why? Are you and I this disgusting? How can this not fuck with someone's self-image? My family and psychologists and doctors all say
>you like fine! you're totally normal
or
>you're a handsome young man, don't worry
I'm 24 and never held a girl's hand. I've talked to a few my own age in group therapies who all ignore me at best and spread rumors behind my back, NO different than Stacies in high school did.

I've been working on overcoming being lonely and accepting my fate. I will never marry nor have children, nor receive love beyond familial obligation (which I'm grateful to have, at least).
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yeah she friendzoned me and found a chad
i don't want to try anymore cause I'll just be hurt

You mean it screams "I don't want to be manipulated into being just one of the orbiters like every other time even though she claimed she only talked to me". Women are shit dude.

>Have you actually tried getting with an ugly, fat woman in your league?
Yes. She feigned interest in me and used me to raise her self esteem, only to magically get a social life and other suitors as soon as I expressed interest back.

Do you have a deformity or else? or you're just like a 2/10

Ya same here. Rejection will be the outcome and it gives me much agony. I am some genetically trash tier male either way because my mom gave me autism. Not very attractive either and skinny body type.

I would not want to pass on this trash on to my kids to make suffer. It's best I do not reproduce.

lol just shower bro and hit the gym dude man

Those parents in the pic related totally tricked the "survival of the fittest" thing, one of the girls has a baby, and at least another one of them is actually cute by chance,

I'm a fat guy but not obese. I'm also 5'5", so that could be considered a deformity. I don't have any genetic diseases, been tested for that. Nothing seemingly unusual about me physically. If I lost weight I'd be a 5 at best so I suppose I'm a 2 or 3 as of now. I've worn clean clothes and grungy clothes, trendy and autistic. Short hair, long hair, beard, clean shaven, mustached. I've changed my appearance this way and that countless times no matter what I do, guys laugh at me in the street and girls look away scared.

It's hard not to think it's something more than physical or mental. That there's not an aura or spirit that some people have that's strong. But that's just a slippery slope to a persecutory delusion which I've been battling a long time.
Hmm, I hadn't thought of those ones before. I think I'll try being myself tomorrow, maybe then the girls at group therapy will like me.

heterosexual and real
totally not fake and gay

don't ask out anyone you go to therapy with. this would be included in a code of conduct or the group facilitators would have gone over it at some point. if someone reported you asking them out to a facilitator, you might be asked to leave the group at worst. calm down.

I'm actually not very ugly (usually get rated around 7 on /soc/) but I would date an ugly girl if I met one. I'm just really autistic and don't know where to look for women beyond apps like tinder which just show me stacies that I have zero chance with.

Ugly fat women in my league only want Chad