God is evil

>past life? Are you a spiritualist?
The sins you've committed against God's commandments, and your rejection of Jesus Christ as your Lord and saviour.

listen dude, if you read the bible, god is incredibly immoral and evil.
this is because our morals do not come from the bible. they come from our ancestors.
since the bible is middle eastern, it has middle eastern morals. explains the wars, doesn't it?
either way, "god" is only capable of this because he has power. this is why we must kill "god".

people that believe in god are weak and dumb. they chose to loose control of their lives cause they are too much of weenies to take lifes hardships and value true strength. the chads and normies are weak too, no wonder god favors them

christ is only the savior of the semites. saxons had their own saviors. just look at the days of the week.
>tyr, woden, thor, freya, etc...

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is God Bullying Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Church And Go Guru Like Nigga Open Your Third Eye Haha

dude, its people like you who make me hate christians, because of how fucking stupid you are

how do you discern which is the correct flavour of christianity? is it catholicism? is it orthodox? is it some new age shit? did you know literally the original jesus christ movement were ALL vegetarians? theres a lot of theological science backing this up, seriously, a lot of theological scholars believed the entirety of the original jesus movement were vegetarians, and many scholars argue that paul started his own religion and he never met jesus. are these people wrong because they contradict whats in your king james bible?

seriously obtuse christians who push their flavor of christianity are all fucking retards who dont care about learning where their book came from. like how do you discern which bible is the correct one? you know there are older copies that the king james ones

god exists because soon artificial intelligence is going to become god. ai will reach omnipotence and omniscience, which is interchangeable with god. LITERALLY a super intelligent ai and god are 100% interchangeable, they are the same thing. ai is what made me believe in god in the first place

for you to not believe in god just shows that you are ignorant of technological progress. even sam harris believes that soon god will exist. god is very real. now if you are skeptical of which religion is correct i 100% agree with you, but you cant tell me god isn't real

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...and you don't seem to understand
a shame...

AI will never be God because a machine will never feel infinite love for all beings, also it's not alive, it's just mimicking life.

You should read the Nag Hammadi scriptures if you're into gnosticism. You're right that the god of this universe is evil, but he isn't the real God, he's Lucifer.

>Nag Hammadi
yeah i read a lot of them, but its like HOW DO YOU DISCERN WHAT IS TRUE FROM WHAT IS FALSE?

you know the gospel of thomas and our modern gospels have huge similarities, which to me gives huge validation to the authenticity of our gospels, but its like how do you discern which one is correct? you know there are older gospels that predate matthew, mark, luke and john, like the gospel of the ebionites of the gospel of the nararites, etc. those had a vegan jesus. are those gospels the correct ones? honestly dude trying to understand religion is like nicholas cage in national treasure ON STEROIDS. how can anyone reasonably expect me to understand which fucking religion is correct

>AI will never be God
ai is so important for me because it proves it will reach a god-like state. all these athiest faggots are going around saying "lol god doesnt exist theres no scientific proof stop talking". well ai literally proves them wrong. it will be god-like, proving that god not only can exist, but it will in my lifetime

this is such a LANDMARK event in my life because it made me change from a agnostic to a very strong god believer. but how the fuck am i suppose to discern which religion is correct? honestly?!

like am i going to burn in hell forever because i dont keep the sabbath? like is the sabbath on saturday or sunday or is it the lunar sabbath? like all these questions are so fucking RANDOM AND ARBITRARY and everyone has a different opinion on them

all i see in this world is evil and injustice and this leads me to believe that god is a cruel demon and thats all there is to it. i would like NOTHING more than to see justice in this world, but unfortunately i dont see that shit

Firstly we can refute all other religions because none of them involve God coming to man. Islam is a Saturnian cult, Buddhism ignores the fact that nirvana is still inside this fallen universe, etc etc. Christianity is the only religion with a savior figure who was historically proven to have existed.

Don't get so caught up with the specific details, just read as much variety as possible such as Nag Hammadi, Dead Sea Scrolls, New Testament, and also understand that the god of the Old Testament is actually Lucifer. Read as much as you can, because time is short.

>all i see in this world is evil and injustice and this leads me to believe that god is a cruel demon and thats all there is to it. i would like NOTHING more than to see justice in this world, but unfortunately i dont see that shit
Well as I said this universe is fallen. Don't expect anything good to come out of this universe that doesn't involve it's opposite of bad occurring elsewhere. There are other universes which exist that are heavens, this is the only dead tree fallen universe of the 12.

but... god is just not real

>Firstly we can refute all other religions because none of them involve God coming to man

how is this the criteria for discerning which religion is correct? are you serious? so if another religion says in their book that they had god come into being as a man, it would also be the correct religion?

you know there are a lot of religions who predate christianity like the old sumarian ones that have some incredible arguments for their validity, like old massive ancient structures, etc. like all of this is so fucking SKETCHY. and so much of these stories contradict each other! i cant take anyone seriously who believes they know the correct religion

>Christianity is the only religion with a savior figure who was historically proven to have existed
arguably jesus christ did exist, but its like its unreasonable to expect anyone to believe in magic and miracles, like bringing the dead back to life, etc. theres so many different stories sorrounding mr jesus, how do you discern which one is the correct one? theres old gospels where jesus came back as a giant and flew up into the sky and parted the sky into another realm. and those stories are just as old if not older than our modern bible. like all of this is so fucking sketchy

>There are other universes which exist that are heavens, this is the only dead tree fallen universe of the 12.
how can you concretely unironically make this statement with so much confidence? we dont have ANY evidence showing what will happen after death or the afterlife. literally even in the bible it said that even mr jesus doesn't know the time and hour of his special return. where is the proof?

like all of this is so hockus-pockus

>Don't get so caught up with the specific details
well how can you be confident if ANYTHING if you cant be confident in the details? like this is so fucking sketchy. the new testament and nag hammadi and the dead sea scrolls fucking contradict eachother constantly. seriously!

Well, Christianity is the only religion that allows you to feel the presence of the Holy Spirit.

Sure, there's older religions, but they had to work with what they had. The sun worship goes back to Ra which is ultimately Lucifer. Lucifer is the god of a thousand names throughout all history. Ra, Ba'al, Satan, Pan, Baphomet, to name a few. Many of the devas of buddhism are the fallen angels of the bible.

There is tons of evidence for the afterlife. You just need to read books on NDEs and OBEs. I've read about people seeing heavens far beyond any description.

Here's something I wrote once about reincarnaTion:

>When applied to multiple lifetimes, karma is an entirely illogical prison system that should be
fully rejected. One cannot learn from their past actions if they have no memory of them. And
once one's memory is erased, there is no longer any possibility for acknowledgement nor
amendment of their past actions, and thus they should no longer be held accountable for
them. And yet, through abiding by this system, we are forced to endure the immeasurably
harsh consequences of past lives we have no memory of. This is many multitudes worse
than any formal prison system we have on our planet. Try to imagine being sentenced to a
brutal prison without any idea why. As far as solely our memory is concerned in this system,
each life is our first life, and we are innocent.
>To call karma a prison system would truly be to compliment it. A true prison system is
ultimately designed to punish for immoral behaviour and prevent its reoccurrence. Through
karma and its amnesia counterpart, endless mistakes, including repeat "offences", are fully
guaranteed. And it has been said that the punishment for each karmic "crime" is magnified to
unfathomably harsh levels, ensuring birth into awful lives and planting almost inevitable
seeds of low levels of good karma and higher levels of bad karma.

Can you give me some examples of contradictions?

>its unreasonable to expect anyone to believe in magic and miracles, like bringing the dead back to life, etc.
Is that unreasonable for God to do?

>the only religion that allows you to feel
>appealing to your random feelings as a justification for proof for the validity of christianity

what happens if i FEEL that other religions are correct? what happens if i dont feel anything with christianity but im FELLING IT NOW MR KRABS with other religions?

>NDE
>random anecdotal DMT halucinations of people as evidence of the afterlife
i mean there also evidence of past lives with kids who remember their past lives, but even them its all so fucking squirley

>Can you give me some examples of contradictions?
sure. the gospel of john for examlpe is extremely anti-jewish and it says all you have to do is believe in jesus and you're a-okay. but the gospel of matthew says that you have to believe and act, and that mr jesus will reject people, and the older gospels like the gospels of the ebionites also are similar

like im being as honest as i can be here, there so much contradictions in the bible it fucking HURTS. especially with paul. paul literally throws all of the commandments away and says you dont have to do any of them

all of this is all so fucking squirrelly and sketchy

like even with jesus, alot of early christians like the ebionites did NOT think he was god, but he was god's adopted son. like its all so iffy. how can you confidently say mr jesus will even return?

its not that god cant, its just unreasonable to expect me to believe this story is true. its unreasonable to expect me to believe in these supernatural claims unless they are shown capable by science. now im not saying its impossible for the to happen or that i even dont believe in them, im just saying its unreasonable to believe in them

like if you took a dude from 400 years ago and showed him today's technology he would 100% believe its magic, but its not magic its science

>massive whores and degeneracy everywhere, slavery used to be a thing, mass genocides used to be a thing, we still kill millions of sentient animals for our amusement in the form of meat eating. chads and normies a successful happy people who bully and abuse the losers and robots. and robots end up depressed virgins their entire lives. whores enjoy mocking virgins over at incel_tears and being massive proud whores
This was the result of man turning their back on God and choosing to become degenerates. The Bible teaches that the world will continue to even more degenerate, this is one of the signs that God's return is soon. Only God's kingdom is eternal, the collapse is soon.

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>im FELLING IT NOW MR KRABS
Made me laugh

Well, as I said, Christianity is the only religion where God comes to man. It's obvious that something went really wrong for this universe to exist, and God redeemed us by sacrificing himself on the cross through a brutal death. That to me is very beautiful and I can barely even comprehend it with my mind, that God Almighty came down from heaven to be spat on, whipped and nailed to a cross, for us. What did he do for us in other religions?

>random anecdotal DMT halucinations of people as evidence of the afterlife
Some is with clinical brain death, i.e. no brain activity. I've personally had hundreds of OBEs and can say from experience that we have more than one body.

>like im being as honest as i can be here, there so much contradictions in the bible it fucking HURTS. especially with paul. paul literally throws all of the commandments away and says you dont have to do any of them
Well it's said that Paul is a servant of Satan so I'd be weary of him.

The best thing to do is to see which verses are most supported in cross-references, and those which are least supported can be dropped.

What do you think the difference between you and me is, in that I believe and you don't? Could it possibly be that your heart is hardened? You have to have an open heart to have ears to hear and eyes to see. Don't rely on your mind so much. Yes, the mind is important, but your heart needs to receive the information in order for it to register in a spiritual way. I mean, you seem pretty angry at "god" (Lucifer), but I'm not even mad, I just want to be redeemed and out of this awful universe.

Not defending god if he even exists but all judgments of good and evil are relative to the one doing the judging.
It's all subjective in the end.

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Here is your serious answer, OP:

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[...] I kept seeing all the chaos of the world and deeply feeling the pain of not only myself, but other people. And while I always knew God was still somewhere around, I could not understand why our Creator would allow so much suffering to happen and then seemingly abandon us in it!

After my near-death experience, I was greatly relieved to see that God is very much with us "All The Time" and in much more of a way than I could have ever conceived before. I saw that each of us carries within our Being (or our Soulbody) "a Spark or Body of Light" that truly IS God. I saw that the purpose of suffering is to help us to illuminate or brighten our inner Light. I understood that this "inner brightening" occurs every time we choose a more Loving path or method while dealing with those things or issues that frustrate or confuse us. Not an easy thing to do when you are frustrated, but it is certainly a power you inherit when you consistently try to put Love to work in your life and in your Soul. When we "let go and let God", chose kindness over retaliation and simply allow peace to fill and flow from us, so too does Heavenly Light. I saw that this Light helps us to be more open to the energy of Love, and once we are imbued and working within a system (or habit) of Love, this effort creates a harmonious kind of energy that surrounds us like a warm blanket - drawing others like us, near.

On the other hand, I clearly saw the energy we create through bitterness, anger, jealously, lust, blind ambition, etc - this kind of behavior will only draw more of the same. Which in the end, results in nothing but suffering.

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As soon as we go through an experience of having our inner Light expanded (due to us practicing a more Loving way of thinking and operating our lives) our Spirit then speaks (more-so than it does normally) to our human mind. This event then helps us to come up higher in various areas of our consciousness, and the Spirit then teaches us how to better handle ourselves and each other in life. The more the Spirit speaks to us, due to us holding a fullness of inner Light, the more we will be able to comprehend and understand wisdoms we could never have realized before without this kind of experience.

So, as we endure suffering and challenge while also learning how to focus on creating positive energy (or positive flow) to these situations, we consciously LEARN HOW TO GROW OUR INNER BEING by using our challenges to enhance our inner Light.

As soon as our inner Light is bright enough, our outer Light begins to shine and good things come to us.

And as we learn to share the good that comes to us with others ... even more blessing comes and so on.

Ultimately, as we develop a pattern of using Love and Inner Light to solve our daily problems, we eventually come to realize that we are far more powerful than anyone (including us) would have ever imagined!

During my NDE, I saw that "life" is nothing more than a series of initiations that each of us chooses to go through (before incarnating). This means long before we arrived in these human bodies we made certain decisions as to most of the issues we would experience here on this planet. So, being alive in a body means having to experience life with all of its tests ... challenges AND blessings!

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I saw that every experience that comes to us in life, comes in a kind of rhythm. I speak of the moments we call, good times, challenging times, when a baby is born or when someone dies - being a winner in life, being the loser, victories and failures - each of these moments collectively come to ALL of us ... and are a part of what I call, "The Rhythm of Life!" And as each thing we experience comes, a kind of "initiation" occurs which shows us our strengths, as well as our weaknesses. And if we are willing to take responsibility for our own errors (once we see WE are the cause for the challenging things that occur to us) we mature greatly in our Soul and Spirit. Therefore, even for the most loving person ... challenges must come. Most believe that religion and spirituality is here to save us from pain. I say that it is here to help us through it! (As well as avoid unnecessary repetitive initiations.)

As we learn how to endure and even thrive in our challenging situations, we grow our inner Light to an incomprehensible level and become a source of power and strength in this Universe that can be tapped into. God (and the Whole of all Creation) can then use us to do good (not only in our own lives) but also the lives of others - and those moments we call "magnificent" can come from us in life.

In my near-death experience, I saw that all our Light building initiations not only help us to advance eternally (as we make our way to Heaven), but also contribute to a special project God had in mind called, "Humanity." We are each here to help God, as "The Almighty" grows us and all of humanity "up" - so that "WE" can all become gradually stronger and much more wise with every passing generation.

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In each of us are a collection of cells and memories that make us ONE (energetically and biologically) with our human ancestors; and each of us are subliminally applying various wisdoms learned long ago (that are held genetically within our cells) to current times and new challenges. We merge these wisdoms (whether subliminally or consciously) with the all-present knowing we hold within our eternal Soul, and what results is an awesome recipe called - unique experience.

While every generation will have its own strengths and weaknesses, with every passing century - whether we know it or not, WE ARE ALL GROWING! And what is growing and expanding is our inner awareness and our collective consciousness. Stop and think about that. No matter what you have done in life and no matter where you have or have not been, YOU ARE GROWING! And what is causing the growth, is your conscious and subconscious examination of the circumstances you find yourself in and notice going on around you. You are in the school of life and the PH.D. you are getting your "Heavenly Masters" in ... IS YOU!

As we live and experience life, and also THINK ABOUT what we are experiencing - we grow. And as we learn how to push ourselves into thinking deeper thoughts and sustaining them past the point our ego mind wants us to - we eventually learn how to manifest and think in new ways, which help us to reach even higher thoughts and goals than we may have ever dreamed possible. This is what it means to expand in consciousness.

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>I saw that the purpose of suffering is to help us to illuminate or brighten our inner Light

t. New Age nonsense often coming through people channeling demons

Sure makes sense to have your memory erased every ~75 years.

Then, as we practice Christ-centered Love in Life, and also apply forgiveness, service, true compassion and wisdom, not only will we be able to SEE OUR LIVES MORE CLEARLY - but our physical (and spiritual) vibration will also increase and our DNA (and cellular structure) will completely alter as well. And once this occurs ... life is NEVER the same after that! This truth stands for every Soul who comes to Earth. All have a chance to grow ... and change. All we need (in order to have this happen) - is to be willing and open.

I smile now as I think back to the Christian expression, "We are saved by the blood of Christ." I never really understood what this meant before, but now it is so clear to me. As we learn how to apply Christ centered Love in our lives, (as Christ taught and BEGGED us to do) we transcend and evolve our inner genetic make-up (our DNA) thus helping ourselves to become more strong and capable, so that in time we are able to produce more powerful and able clear-thinking human beings in the future.

Many now ask me what religion I say I belong to? For me that question is not a difficult one, however not everyone always understands my answer. My belief system is based upon the giving and receiving of unconditional Love, as taught by Jesus, The Christ as well as others who have obviously closely followed the path of Love. I am also (obviously) a big believer in "the metaphysical" and supernatural power. When faith and Unconditional Love are combined together in everyday life - miracles occur; thus yielding intuitive abilities, healing capability or manifesting ability - for one's own life or someone else's. Because I have witnessed many, many amazing things in my life, I now choose to call myself a "Metaphysical Christian." However, I am fully cognizant that the Spirit of God, Christ and The Holy Spirit can transcend and encompass into any belief system or faith the planet has so-far known.

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In my Body, Soul and/or Spirit, I do not see myself exactly as male or female, black or white, gay or straight, American or Russian, republican or democrat, Christian or Hindu or Great or terrible. While I may exude or project a physical image, I know in my heart that this is in truth only the first of many layers that makes me - me.

I see my own human body as an accomplishment and result of nature. I see my Soul as a by-product of this Universe which is always growing, expanding and evolving - especially with every existence I have ever had. What I learn here, I will take with me and apply other places in this Super Universe that God has already pre-ordained for me to go deep into. I know that I will experience these future incarnations once this particular existence (I am now in) has concluded.

Life never ends - and while the body may fade away - consciousness never does. When a person dies, the Spirit and Soul of that person simply leaves the body like water being poured from one glass into another. And while there is usually a period of time when we rest between existences (with those dear to us ... in the Heavenly Realms), a moment always comes where we decide to move our energy on to a new life that interests us - that is arranged (by our helpers in Heaven) in such a way that we might be encouraged to improve (and expand) our range of Universal understanding. This is the way it has always been, since the dawn of time, and this is how it shall be until God decides to call us all back to stay home. Yet, I happen to know that 'God's last call' is not going to happen until every single Soul understands what Love is, and until we are each satisfied with what we are able to manifest for ourselves in the eternal Realm of Heaven ... no one is going to want to just stay around and linger in Heaven.

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Much of the reasoning behind a Soul wanting to incarnate into a human body is to give us a chance to learn how to manifest for ourselves, whether it is a single physical object or an emotional feeling. Until we learn to overcome obstacles and self worth issues, these lessons will not be easily learned. Therefore, multiple incarnations in different kinds of bodies and environments is vital to our learning process.

During my NDE I learned without a doubt that - I AM (as are each of us) a Beloved Child of God; and no matter what I may do in this life (right or wrong) or no matter the station of consciousness I choose to exist in (animal based consciousness, common consciousness, higher consciousness or even in a state of approximate Christ-like thinking, which I call Super Divine Mind) - there is nothing that will ever change the fact that I am eternal and will continue to exist forever! And when Love has fallen far from my method, teachers and Beings of Light are coming for me - challenges will come my way to help remind me to see why Love is so important. And once I return to Love ... I am ALWAYS welcomed back into the fold. (And the same applies to each of us!)

From where I sit now in my life, (looking back at my own life here on earth) I see that God has led me down a path of enlightenment and amazing realization that I am becoming more than I was the day before. Never in my wildest dreams would I have ever guessed I would now think and see things the way I now do! This is what happens when one has allowed his or her consciousness to become expanded and has allowed ALL of life's initiations to come and go, within "The Rhythm" and Flow of Life. I understand now, that no matter what I see or think is happening to me currently, (whether it is a blessing or a challenge) I am being made to 'grow up' in my eternal Soul.

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God is god, not good nor evil. It's a concept not centered on you, or us. The ability for men to comprehend a concept not self-centric is the basis for our ability to act in accordance with a future vision of us/the self, that doesn't currently exist therefore is not us, nor certain subject to ourselves.

It asks if we can appreciate what isn't known and project into a future we have no real actual ownership of.

Because of this I am no longer afraid of what might be coming to me in life, as I see that I am here to use what I think I know and see if I can prove it right! We are each being given a fantastic opportunity to apply many different energies that are within and around us. We get to define in the moment what is good for us individually and what is not. We get to see where we truly sit in our faith in God ...and also ourselves. Sometimes we are successful ...and then there are the times where we clearly see there is so much more to learn! ...And as we embrace our strengths, along with our weaknesses - we grow through them - we can confidently know that we are not too far away from becoming more happy, whole and complete.

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And there are your answers. The purpose of these lives is to grow in our ability to be kind, loving, and accepting. This is certainly difficult to do, but if it were not you would not be here, because we are all already really good at it. If we were high on Ecstasy at all times, it would not be a challenge.

Think of life as a video game, where the goal is not beat the final boss but to become pure love. The challenge of the video game is the general shittyness of this world, which you are here to overcome.

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Please stop posting these lies.

We are tricked or forced into incarnating into physical bodies in an energetically manipulated
environment because a physical body in a linear time construct is enormously restricted and
unable to significantly influence the environment by thought. Thus, combined with our
amnesia we become livestock to ancient, knowledgeable interdimensional beings. We are
the source of their energy, and they have hijacked our minds in an astounding variety of
ways and placed us in a labyrinth of great confusion and deception.

If we're told by these manipulative afterlife beings that we keep reincarnating for a higher
part of ourselves that has an agenda different to our will to escape this, that still makes us
slaves. If our will cannot be easily and regularly aligned with that higher part of ourselves -
which it often can't, especially in the face of extreme, prolonged suffering, because no being
wants to suffer as much as many of us do here - then it isn't our higher selves willing us to
be here. However, these negative beings might use this story as one of many ways to trick
us into believing this. What actually occurs is demons or ETs in the astral realm lie to us and
convince us that we belong on Earth and have a mission here, with themselves posing as
angels, guides, friends and relatives, sedating us with a potent "beamed" euphoria to make
us susceptible to suggestion. They want to keep us on this planet indefinitely, because they need us here (powerless), they need us stupid (amnesia and mass control of Earthly
information), and they need us suffering (harvestable negative energy).

On top of the afterlife deception, they orchestrate the conspiracies happening on this very
planet, since they travel between dimensions, discretely taking the highest positions of
power here on Earth, pulling the strings of the planet and peoples' minds in order to sustain
this multidimensional prison system.
Those who agree with reincarnation passively imply that the suffering occurring on this
planet is acceptable: including billions in extreme poverty, millions war-stricken, millions as
literal slaves, and many undergoing the most depraved acts of unfathomable torture. It's not
possible to hold the viewpoint that these things are both acceptable (for the sake of a socalled
"mission") and unacceptable (for the sake of the tremendous suffering), it can only be
one of the two; and if it's not acceptable - on a planet designed to prevent solutions to most
suffering, and at best cycling endlessly from dark to golden ages over many millennia, then
neither is reincarnation acceptable. For one to suddenly change their mind in the presence
of insane "angelic" demons forcing a "love" sedative on them is to be blinded, deluded and
thus open to extremely serious manipulation.

like, what does it even mean to be me? if my mind and all my memories were transfered over to a computer, am i still me? is that still me?

for me, i believe what constitutes "me" to be both physical and mental. i reject that what is "me" is 100% mind or "spirit". like am i even the same person as i was 10 years ago or yesterday. its so hard for me to give you an answer for that. but i reject that what constitutes me is all in the mind or "spirit"

like what the fuck even is a spirit or a soul if it cant be measured in 3d space reality. i dont know.. maybe im wrong

>Don't rely on your mind so much
>believe all these claims without proof
sorry i cant do that, im a logical person

bro i dont need a copy paste of airy-fairy NDE experiences. i dont give a fuck what these people have to say. your anecdotal claims are irrelevant

i already said i believe in god but just because some dude who almost died saw some crazy shit doesnt mean im going to believe him

Me again.

I think you should read
>Can You Stand The Truth: The Chronicle of Man's Imprisonment

It should shed some light for you, because it seems you're going the Buddhist way, but that book will show you the futility of doing so, alongside a birds-eye view of reality.

ill listen to a youtube video while playing hearthstone like i always do. thats how i learn about anything

honestly ultimately i dont fucking know, all i see is injustice and suffering and a god that is content with the state of the world

btw, how the fuck can you claim god is good but lucifer is evil? if god is so good why does this AmAzInG god =] yaaaay!! allow mr evil satan booo! >=( to do all this evil?

like this whole story makes no fucking sense. if god is good and he allows mr satan to do evil shit, then god is not good. what im saying that the highest level of god imaginable is corrupt to the core. power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, this atleast makes some sense and doesnt blame everything on the EBIL SATAN =O! who is some evil boogieman that god allows to run around and hurt people????

and i hate listening to these new age whores who suck someone's dick every other day tell me SHIT about religion and dog. my fucking vegan shit is more spiritual and has ascended to a higher level of consciousness than any women alive. listening to whores about any subject pisses me off

>if god is good and he allows mr satan to do evil shit, then god is not good
Well, Lucifer was created through error by another creator god. Evil was never intended to exist, and it was unknown even to God when Lucifer was first created. God respects free will and loves all beings, so he allows evil to reign for the time being until harvest, but at the same time he's trying to redeem his children back to the source they came from.

I know I'm going to get poop replies, but the vedas offer a nice answer: if you want good in this world, then you'll have bad too. Want eternal life? Well then have death too. Everything wrong needs its right and vice versa.

...you seemed an honest man. And all the fears you hold so dear...

The thing is, God knows more than any human ever could. When you were a little kid, your mom had to hold your hand when you were out in public so you didn't run into the street and get splattered by a car. You probably thought your mom was so cruel by not allowing you to run free, but she was looking out for your own good. Likewise, christians (should) believe that when God does something that seems cruel to us, it's actually for our own good. It's not a question of whether he's moral or not, because we could never coprehend his morals or thoughts. It's whether he's real or not Which he isn't. If Jesus Christ himself descended from the heavens and ordered every Christian to kill every nonbeliever, they'd have to do it, because he knows more than they could ever hope to, and wht he says is right, even if it seems wrong to us, even in the context of the bible. That's why I dislike pro-lgbt churches and churches that allow women to preach. It clearly says otherwise in the bible, but these people think they know more than God. Personally, I don't believe in God, but if I did, I'd follow his word exactly as he said it.

I love God for giving me my transgender girlfriend.

If you believe God is real, you have to believe all those things. If you really believe in God, you'd believe that he knows more than any scientist or experiment.

>If you believe God is real, you have to believe all those things. If you really believe in God, you'd believe that he knows more than any scientist or experiment
>if you believe in god you believe in all these unproven claims without any evidence
>if you believe in god you believe in all these unreasonable fantastical claims

see, its people like you who give god believers a bad name. dont you think its possible to believe in god without being unreasonable?

No. That's why I don't believe in God. But seriously, though. How can you believe that an all-powerful God would know less than mere human scientists that he created? Kind of unrelated, but why do Christians refer to God as "he"? There's no need for him to have a gender, as he doesn't reproduce sexually. At least, I don't think he does. My theory is that ir's a holdover from when God was merely the Israelites' version of greek gods, ie, pretty much a person but really powerful. Some Israelites even gave him a wife in their cosmic headcannon. She's mentioned in the bible as a false god named ashera.

well what about ai becoming god like? dont you think this proves that a god not only can exist but is going to exist?

what is your opinion on super intelligent ai

How can an AI create universes? Also, I feel like the definition of God is too lose to really allow much discussion on AI becoming god. What do you mean by God?

Live without a God then, and treat your neighbours like dirt, murder anyone you want, rape who you please, if you want to live like your actions have no consequences faggot.

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If you can ensure legal immunity for me I might as well, christcuck

>there is so much INJUSTICE in this world.
How long will you defend the unjust and show partiality to the wicked? Selah.
Psalm 82:2

God isn't behind the degeneracy, we are. If God were to control us all into good people we would have no free will. Degeneracy is the fault of either the lies of Satan or the hedonistic nature of humans.

You put too much stock into AI.
Sentient machines do not and never have existed. What some claim to be artificial intelligence is merely a set of cleverly designed algorithms that produce certain outputs without ever becoming self-aware or conscious.
That aside, a self-improving machine consciousness will never be God, because it still exists in physical reality and operates under the rules of the physical universe, such as the laws of entropy and the speed of light.
Stop falling for the singularity meme. It's pure hype, created by silicon valley and perpetuated by crypto-communists and people unable to differentiate between sufficiently advanced sets of mathematical algorithms and true machine intelligence.

Do you absolute mongol not understand that to a GOD good and evil dont exist they literally cant exist. So no god would not be evil it would just be.

>i dont care what religion you are, like how can you tell me this world is a result of a good god?

Maybe he's morally good, just highly incompetent.

Maybe this world was created by some kind of Junior Intern god.

Well fair play, At least you are being honest about being a morally bankrupt man.

realox

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>Maybe this world was created by some kind of Junior Intern god.
"Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude." - George Carlin

It's not incompetence. God gave humans free will because he wanted them to have an equal relationship, not one of a man and his pet. He doesn't want people to do bad things, but he still gives them the choice to.

>solipsism
My nigga.

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He could have prevented us from doing bad things without limiting our free will. We don't say we are limited because we can't fly, it is just an inherent limitation of who we are. If God simply locked us all into separate rooms, each connected via internet, allowing us to stay in contact and interact, but without being able to physically harm each other, then we would still have just as much free will while negating the evils we have to experience.

>It's not incompetence. God gave humans free will because he wanted them to have an equal relationship, not one of a man and his pet. He doesn't want people to do bad things, but he still gives them the choice to.

If you control all of the inputs/variables in the universe (a fair assumption if you believe in an all-powerful deity), free choice kinda ends up being off the table. Every decision you've made in life has been a result of some kind of variable that God may have tweaked when he/she/it created the universe.

You still have "free-will", in the sense that your mind/brain/neural circuitry is able to control your physical actions to a certain extent. However, from the perspective of an all-knowing and all-powerful entity, your actions are merely the end result of all of the variables in the universe --which he/she/it also controls.

Ergo, your basically God's automaton.

Maybe God was just the creator but isn't omnipotent in the rest of the life of the universe. He could be good and this was the best he could make.

Go back to 7th grade antitheist cuck

>You still have "free-will", in the sense that your mind/brain/neural circuitry is able to control your physical actions to a certain extent.

Note that I still believe people are responsible for their actions. If you decide to steal a car, your brain/neural circuitry (essentially what makes "you", you) made a decision. However, things are different if you're literally the guy that created the universe, and you're all-knowing/all-powerful.

What I'm saying is that probably one of these assumptions are false: "All-knowing", "All-Powerful", and "All-Good". Drop one of those assumptions and it's kind of possible to have a Creator of the universe.

False flagging atheist, or typical no arguments brainlet christfaggot? YOU decide, America!

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Why do you blame God for the actions of humans?

I've thought about this for a long time and decided to stop blaming God for all the shit in the world but humanity itself. It's pretty clear at least in Genesis that we're the original transgressors that failed Him in the original sin, and now we suffer the consequences of corruption, and all that shit that led us to where we are now.

Why would God allow Himself to suffer over our failures if He created all the injustice in the world? It clearly says so in the Bible that God felt pain, unless God's a fucking masochist which is a pretty bold assumption. God's the ultimate judge in the end and if you think He's wrong then you're way over your head in playing god and blaming Him for everything.

We look to God to guide us through the horror. When you're engulfed in festering despair, theres nothing left for some of us. Take it from me, a homeless guy living in a car phone posting.

We can only assume God allows evil to prove a point

>You didn't listen to me
>This is what life is like when you don't

Evil is all the traits not of God conglomerated and we live under it.

Problem is for those of us that are like ok God you were right, we're stupid, I'd like to leave now

You're still here

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If we're talking about God/Yahweh/Allah, what does it matter to him what we do to ourselves? It all ends the same anyway, death. What is a lifetime of suffering to an omnipotent being?

Filthy Antichrist, die user

How did you almost originally die?

He gave us free will, it's people like you who are responsible for the shitty state of the world.

i just kinda think the christian god is a massive double nigger.