After 7 years of trying to "make it brah" doing bodybuilding style training I officially gave up recently. My frame/insertions are BELOW average, my muscle gain potential has been at best - AVERAGE. Another big factor is the constant need to be on point with nutrition in order to maximize body-composition, it is so much work, for so little gain, and it's something I no longer see any value in doing for me personally. Especially after seeing and hearing other guys discuss their nutrition and many of them being GigaChads who don't even know what a calorie or macro is, they just eat whatever, drink alcohol, and some how stay shredded and jacked - GENETICS is all that matters, not much you can do about them, you can't BRUTE FORCE out of BELOW AVERAGE genetics.
Not trying to demoralize any of you, but if you don't look jacked after 2-3 years, you'll NEVER look jacked, its just the reality. Most guys I've seen come into the gym over the last 7 years, they've all been jacked within 1-2 years MAX, and then maintained that look for years after. Others like me (who are not so fortunate genetically) I see struggling year round, never being able to get that jacked/shredded look, just staying DYEL mode year after year, despite me seeing them training their fucking heart out.
What's the difference anyway, if its not GENETICS? everyone's doing the same shit anyway, except only a few seem to ever make it, hell, EVEN MOST GUYS ON STEROIDS DONT EVEN MAKE IT, so fuck, I can't even claim "steroids bro" because even most guys I see who are on roids still look awful! There is 1 natty guy at my gym that absolutely MOGS the shit out of dozens of roiders at my gym, just because of how genetics in how his body LOOKS, its the LOOK, that LOOK I wanted, its just having good fucking genetics guys, its not even roids, its not diet, its hard work, its just being lucky to have genetics that allow your body to transform into an aesthetic master-piece, which most just don't have.
You can literally hit the natty limit in 7 years. If you have nothing to show for 7 years of lifting then you may be retarded and should consider not reproducing
Jackson Reed
>its not even roids, its not diet, its hard work,
correction, meant to say its NOT hard work.
Elijah Gray
Dude looks like minecraft Steve
Xavier Thomas
You dont have shit genetics you are just retarded. I bet you train the "big four" religiously and think getting jacked means lifting heavy because you're natty.
James Wood
If you can't be the best then strive to be the best version of yourself. Go ahead and give up and become a flabby little worm if that's what you are.
Or power on, you don't need to be a fucking competing bodybuilder with god-tier aesthetics. Just be better than the average DYEL's, which is obtainable by even the shittest of genelets.
Furthermore, you're a fucking weak-willed faggot.
Joshua Cox
Even your subconscious can't handle the cope
Sebastian Nguyen
I don't think you understand what good and bad genetics means for body building. I think you just have no idea what you're doing and are too dumb to figure it out. You'd rather like to yourself than admit your hard work didn't pay off because your approach to training and nutrition was fundamentally flawed.
John Baker
>There is 1 natty guy at my gym that absolutely MOGS the shit out of dozens of roiders at my gym, just because of how genetics I knew you were an Jow Forums tranny from the start but this is where you overdid it.
Isaac Sanchez
I have muscle on me, I have advanced lifts, I did all kind of isolations for years targeting specific muscle groups to gain the aesthetic appearance. I did the compounds & the isolations, progressively overloaded, trained for strength, trained for hypertrophy, trained all rep ranges, counted my macros, weighed all my food on kitchen scale, hit my macros, daily weigh ins, consistently progressed over the years gaining advanced lifts on all compounds, and being comparatively strong on isolation's. Didn't neglect anything about lifting or nutrition.
The result - A strong, decently muscular, but definitely not what would be considered "aesthetic" due to bad proportions, like barely having a V-taper while being single digit body-fat, because of my height + structure of my hips being wide. My torso, even with no fat on it, is about he width of what should be on a man who is 8+ inchs taller than me. What is fucked up about it all, is that my back is extremely well developed, and even despite that, my waist even at a low bodyfat is still too wide! Its fucked!
Carson Turner
Post body
Nolan James
>still training for the looks and not bloatmaxing for more plates and more dates
Aaron Williams
The fact is if everyone could "make it" there would be 0 way for fitness models/fitness youtubers etc to make money or get views.
If it was as simple as just doing a good routine, tracking macros, sticking to it all, and then looking like a fitness model does, then we'd have millions of Zyzzs, Matt Ogus and Connor Murphys going around.
Jaxson Bennett
Yea I'm gona need to see some post body
Austin Price
Your that whiny faggot on youtube. You been brainwashed by the red pill bullshit and you dont take any advice given to you.
Julian Reed
you forgot eat at a calorie surplus and train with progressive resistance.
Camden Long
>alpha genetics vs beta results anyway, post your lifts
Joshua Clark
Fpbp
Connor Rodriguez
Did you, by any chance, do 7 reps per set? This is very important for us to know.
Dominic Flores
Post lifts.
James Cruz
did this dude really spend all of his donations on a nosejob?
Jeremiah Martin
Nice blog, see you later, more women for me
Nicholas Turner
>7 years of trying to make it >can't make it Bro, what is your standard of making it? You can be in the top 5% natty in a year of you're not like 70yo. You might not look like some roiding physique pro but you'll be fit.
John Flores
Everything said in this thread is pointless and irrelevant without post body
Post body
Zachary Sullivan
Just eat more
Jacob Morales
Post numbers for squat, bench, press, deadlift (for 5 reps) and post body
Parker Hill
SS + GOMAD
Isaiah Johnson
post body
Juan Howard
Im the same, started at 110 5'8 and made it up to 160 sub 15%bf, If i told you how long ive been working out you'd all laugh.
Normies think I look great. Im still a manlet with wide hips.
My joints are fucked, I cant do bench due to my shoulders popping out of socket when i attempt the push off the pins. My elbows are constantly aching, cortisol levels are so high i can barely sleep.
0 vascularity even when low bf, what the fuck is the point?
You look pretty good tho, it just sounds like you maybe trained like a moron and fucked your shit up. Try seeing a sports doctor about the shoulder issues and your elbow tendonitis, maybe.
Ryan White
>it’s another body dysmorphia thread
Leo Myers
It is over when you die. If you are still alive, then you should just keep going. Whenever doubts plague you to a dangerous point, do something pragmatic about it. Turn your workout plan upside down. Change your eating habits. If one thing doesn't work, try another one. See what you can find. But don't say that it is over. Cowards do that, and you are not a coward.
Anthony Smith
Post lifts
Justin White
Lol you look good. You worked hard for it, enjoy it mistah dysmorphia. If normies are amazed, isn't that a sign of making it? The average guy is 5'9 195 in usa and 185 uk with absolute SHIT lifts and 100% USELESS skinnyfat mode. Anybody with a lean body and strong lifts should be proud! Thank the gods of gains at your local gym alter every chance! Enjoy your longer healthier lifespan!!! When you are 70 you'll be equal to a dyel young man, but other men will be bedridden and dead! Always treasure the gains given to thee
>Another big factor is the constant need to be on point with nutrition in order to maximize body-composition, it is so much work, for so little gain, and it's something I no longer see any value in doing for me personally. Dude just drink milk and eat meat 3x a day that's all it fucking takes stop pretending it's this complicated fucking daily equation you gotta do because you don't.
Ayden Thompson
You look pretty good. That's my goal body. Miring those traps, bro.
>shoulders popping out on bench FUCK!! I’ve had a few dislocations but never when benching. What the fuck bro thats terrifying. What happened? How bad was it??
Chase Sullivan
Stop fapping stop cooming. Let your body reset.
James Torres
Fucking hell man, eat some protein
Colton Parker
What the fuck is this supposed to mean? Lifting heavy is the jey to getting jacked and compounds are all you need. You choose isolations based on your weak spots.
Robert Jackson
Programming, early life training, stress, job conditions, sleep, there’s a laundry list of reasons people make gains at different rates. You probably don’t even look that bad, you just have body dysmorphia from this place.
Joseph Myers
Just lift heavy, eat a lot, sleep a lot, dont stress urself and have sex. bro thats literally it
Upper/lower where u hit every muscle/big movement 2 to 3 times. Week and eat a lot of meat and carbs
If u dont get bigger idk play chess or do powerlifting
Benjamin Jenkins
It’s not making it but the pursuit of making it that makes the man. How often does a man accomplish his dreams only to be left feeling unfulfilled with an unsatisfactory payoff or to be left depressed with nothing left to pursue? Some don’t even have dreams or goals to fight for and we all have one we can pursue till the end of our lives.
Bentley Brown
Look user in the pursuit of gains the joy needs to be derived in the journey not the destination. I know you're frustrated because you're not where you want to be or where you think you should be but you need to give yourself credit for the 7 years you've been grinding. You can still make it. You need to be honest with us but more importantly, yourself on what is hindering you from reaching your goals.
Are you training with intensity? Are you doing accessory work? Cardio? Keeping yourself motivated and accountable by varying exercises?
Physiques worth talking about take time. All the legends lift for decades.
