/mbti/ general: equal opportunity edition

I No Fuck Pussy
I Sometimes Fuck Pussy

What is my destiny as INFP? I'm neet mess right now

INFJ, INTP, ENTJ, and ISTJ are the most common mistypes for INTJs (in that order).

Nothing to be excited for

Get some discipline and do something you hate until you're financially and emotionally secure enough to do something you love. Wish I could offer better advice but that's basically what it boils down to, especially for INxP types who need a fire burning under their ass before they actually do anything.

The only people I'm interested in turn out to be ISTP as well even though we are both pretty mute most of the time aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ne aux = expresses the Fi through accepted ideals, stances, "objective" concepts
Se aux = expresses the Fi in an artsy yet physical way(e.g. through appearance, drawing)

During loop:
Fi-Si = attaches their Fi fully to personal sensations, being a pretty much self-serving morality that is impossible to understand for another person not even if they experienced exactly the same things
Fi-Ni = attaches their Fi fully to some personal intuitions, again, makes it even more impossible to understand because it has no visible physical nor conceptual form anymore

why do TPs say "aaaaa" unprovoked

I can describe your life in 4 words

>niggers tongue my anus

Because aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA is generally our reaction to life

idk user it fills the void aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

because it's less embarrassing to scream on the internet where nobody can judge you, and it's what we think of life.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

I get laid probably once every 1-2 years, does that mean I'm ISFP? Always thought I was INFP

That doesn't narrow it down... I'll never know which one I am lol. What are some stereotypes of each?

Sure but I don't want to make anyone feel bad just for the sake of an argument. I feel like ENTPs wouldn't care what the people involved felt so long as the debate was rigorous.

Stereotypes only confuse you really.
It's all about how you prefer to "serve" your dominant function.

from personal experience ISFPs tend to be more normie akin and INFPs are more robot akin. ISFPs are an introverted type but they are more able to be in social situations than an INFP. ISFPs are also not as deep thinkers as INFPs are, though I don't know if this is true with all ISFPs and INFPs as I'm basing this off personal accounts.
t. INFP with an ISFP co-worker

>be me
>evil infj
>cruelly dump estp because errrg pissing me off
>estp is heartbroken
>i am emotionally detached
>estp deserves someone who can give more than i can
>i pray every night that estp will find their best lover in life
>someone nicer than me who never gets tired of giving and receiving love
>i pray i am not "the one who got away"
>i fear that i am truly an awful excuse for a human being
>here is loyal puppy for you
>puppy is annoying and makes messes
>puppy lies a lot and it is aggravating
>mommy does not want to be mommy anymore
>bring up the time estp emotionally manipulated me
>howdidinotrealizethisbefore.mp4
>i reee hard
>problems ensue
>estp is hurt and it hurts me to see them like this
>yet i do not fucking care
>we both run
>is this the true power of the intj?
>or is evil infj meme true and i am living embodiment of it?

how are my infp bros like when drunk? my te function is out of control right now and i become extraverted

Okay, well I'm definitely more robot - like I'm obsessed with vidya and /tg/ worldbuilding of my own personal rp settings and stuff - but I'm not a virgin or anything. I also love drawing and cooking.

same my dude. question - do you have an easier or more difficult time remembering things you did while wrong?

inb4 "yes"

Okay, sure, that sounds good but like...
>expresses the Fi through accepted ideals, stances, "objective" concepts
Could you dumb this down? I don't understand what this means.

uhh i mean, did while drunk*
weird freudian slip there

Fi/Ne would be pretty much trying to express the Fi, your most personal, unique, subjective side through the use of Ne, that means you will try to make lots of understandable examples, common metaphors, talk about how you personally relate to known ideas(e.g. philosophies) and so on.
This opposes instead expressing your Fi with your looks, your creations, your art and so on.

I'm super extroverted and very friendly to people while drunk

>talk about how you personally relate to philosophies
Yeah that doesn't sound like me at all. Hmm thanks

Daily reminder

Your Primary Function is you at your most natural, it's your auto-pilot and whenever you are relaxed and at ease it will do it's thing.

Your auxillary, second function, is what you actively need to work to feel more complete. This is why INTJs tend to be better off in life than INTPs, because Te is worked during their school years and studies which makes them happier which contributes to them being more complete individuals. Take an INTJ out of academia and suddenly you have the Jow Forums INTJ, miserable and unhappy because he is no longer keeping his auxillary happy.

Appreciate the informative post. I will now smoke weed to enhance Ne at the slight cost of Ti.

Just an example of what Ne could make you do to express Fi. A philosophy is an "objective" concept in the sense it exists outside of yourself, so if you used it as symbol to make others understand your Fi, then this would be using Fi/Ne.
>so ever heard of this idea? here I find myself agreeing mostly to this, understand me now?

If I'm not cooking, drawing or working out I fucking hate myself. I also can get by playing a skill-based video game as long as I'm practicing, executing and improving. If I don't do this I just sit around going "woe is me I'll never find a gf"

Thanks for this post!

Yeah but it's never ending, and even when you are doing those activities you are wondering "aw man, I'm so unproductive, I'm not improving at all!" So on the days where you spend 15 hours drawing and exercising and studying, it's depressing 'cause you're not hyper-focused all the time.

It's just being turbulent, it is what it is.

Man... you are really way too complex for me to understand. Like I have to dissect your posts into small parts and reread them in order to get your meaning. So INFPs call upon existing philosophies that they identify with to demonstrate to others how they feel? Isn't that a little useless?

>aw man, I'm so unproductive, I'm not improving at all!
Fuck you nailed it. How do I stop feeling disappointed with myself? I also tend to spread myself out too thin, wanting to master a bunch of different skills at once.

If you had Ti you wouldn't be stupid enough to sit around all day smoking weed you weak cunt. Find out your real type and then work on your functions.

Guess you are more attached to express self through actions and tangible realities if you find what I said to be "useless" .
Also, yeah, I'm Ni dom, my posting style would definitely be hard to read if you aren't N yourself due to the lack of concreteness.
And no I don't mean it's your fault, we both are at a fault for speaking almost different languages basically.

Piecing that together, ISFP it is.

That's your Ne in play, did you take a screenshot of your results by any chance? It's useful to know where your weak points are.

Nah I'm good. Just an occasional smoker, and a light one at that. Why don't you chill out and take a hit? You sound uptight and extremely biased for some reason.

Pretty good but it ignores the INTP side.
All the INTP effectively needs is just never stop learning more and more through Ne, this is how they will also connect with their Fe.
Much like the INTJ connects with Se through Te's need of "being objective and productive".

INFP I'm guessing.
>If I don't do this I just sit around going "woe is me I'll never find a gf"
Not really MBTI related, but have you thought about just getting a girlfriend? Maybe there's a reason this is the first thing you think whenever you're not busy?

Ti isn't the same thing as INT lol. Brain damage reduces your ability to use Ti, Ne, Si and Fe but smoking weed provides you with an experience which can be fed through your Si to improve your ability to use Ne.

you're living it. INFPs exist to be an example to others.

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>INFPs exist to be an example to others.
True but the kind of example we are talking about is:
>see that miserable guy over there little johnny? you don't want to be that guy, do you?

Here's my results.
Yes I've thought about that a lot lol. It's not like I'm gonna change myself for anyone though, so I'm sure a gf will walk into my life sometime.

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INTP never got mistyped. Too of an asshole to be something else they said

Good addition.

I remember reading INTPs tend to excel in areas like technology because it's just a never-ending learning process and by the time you've caught up there's been a new breakthrough, whereas many types can get frustrated that they never hit that point of accomplishment, where they can finally say I'm done (be this completion of work, or getting a management position, or just having enough money saved).

I suppose Si auxillary would be slightly more wealth focused, providing them with security, comfort and the knowledge that they have managed to amass their own fortunes?

weed is pretty boring after like age 20, but it's really interesting when you get the right amount of high. last time i smoked my Ne was fully activated and i just sat at my computer googling every little idea that came into my head and the more i googled the more interesting shit popped up in my brain i ended up spending like 2 hours learning a lot of weird shit that i thought was super interesting.

makes me wish i was an ENTP because Ne is such a fucking cool function.

All examples are useful, if little johnny becomes a doctor out of fear of becoming like that miserable guy over there, then that guy essentially helped to create a doctor.

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do you mean Si child? Si child does not help with wealth at all, getting money is all about fitting in, doing what you're told, wearing a suit, etc. everything INTPs hate.

>and i just sat at my computer googling every little idea that came into my head and the more i googled the more interesting shit popped up in my brain i ended up spending like 2 hours learning a lot of weird shit that i thought was super interesting.
I can do that without weed

istp here mistiped before as INTP/ISTJ, read the descriptions imo more accurate than taking the test. felt so weird describing me so accurate

You seem very well-rounded in your posts and your test results seem to back that up.
> It's not like I'm gonna change myself for anyone though
Is this fear common among Fi users?

>Si auxillary would be slightly more wealth focused
Not really.
Also INTP has Si tert, all it means is that they will support their Ti not only only with Ne outside world ideas/knowledge but also the personal and subjective experience.

This, what the fuck. Normies smoking weed so they can play ENTP simulator.

It isn't a "fear", Fi users dislike changing their own selves to others and think instead everyone should just accept people are they truly are.

feelers : susceptible to thinkers propaganda helping him with world conquest
thinkers : liberating millions of people from the misery of life, giving them sweet death, because the world conquest takes its victims

lmfao i do that too sometimes just noticed. just spam AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA in chat. i think its because its a "senor" way to express inner pain. instead of using words its an onomoatopea AAAAAAAAAAAAAA more visceral
t. ISTP

It's just something I refuse to do. Being true to myself is the most important thing - even if I'm wrong, even if I'm alone, at least I was true to myself.

Fi-mind

>accept people are
accept people how*

>I can do that without weed
yeah it's true. but for me at least after getting high the Ne got so powerful it overtook Ti and just sent my brain into like a whirlwind of creativity and interesting connections. it felt more natural and Ti wasn't obsessed with categorizing everything and making sure it was consistent and made sense which tends to happen to me and it just made everything more interesting. i've read getting high just empowers your intuitive functions which seems to make sense in my experience.

obviously getting high isn't great in excess, but it's just interesting to put yourself in other states of mind every once in a while. i only smoke weed like once a year or once every two years because the experience is always fascinating to me. INTPs are also the most likely to experiment with drugs.

I guess I should try at some point, I'm just scared my cluelessness shows and I get sold something for like 3 times the price
also I have no idea where to go and whatnot
and I have no idea how to smoke in the first place

I completely agree. Smoking has also helped me utilize Ne to do some hardcore introspection, which is mostly what I end up doing while high anyway. I suppose the poster who hates weed doesn't understand that this could be possible.

I'm talking about auxillary Si, not INTP.

> getting money is all about fitting in, doing what you're told, wearing a suit, etc
Plenty of rich people are insanely low in agreeableness and have never done as they've been told in their lives, they're just highly competitive individuals who want to win, or feed their egos, or simply want to feel accomplished.

>but also the personal and subjective experience.
I was to understand that Si is VERY trophy heavy and absolutely loves nostalgia and reminders of past accomplishments

>I was to understand that Si is VERY trophy heavy and absolutely loves nostalgia and reminders of past accomplishments
nostalgia yes, and affective links to objects, but not necessarily trophies or accomplishments.

>INTPs are also the most likely to experiment with drugs.
I'm INTP and have literally never touched a drug in my life, unsure why this would be true, the INTP stereotype is very cautious and unresponsive to stimuli. I could see why sensors do it, even ENTP.

You are specifically talking about ESTJ but I guess if you replace accomplishments and trophies with stuff more related to people, then you get ESFJ.

>ESFJ keeps count of how many people they """""helped feeling better"""""(read: fucked)
>acts like trophy wife
>doesn't like you, just wants to make you "happy" because it adds to the list of all her good actions

Holy shit are ESFJs actually like this?

Hi, everyone! INFJ-T user here! (n.n)/

As some of you might know, there was an user in the last thread who made fun of me and impersonated me. The only posts that are actually by me are these four:
and
!
(That's less than 1% of all posts!)

I didn't have a meltdown or a breakdown, and I'm fine. Sure, I've become hyperemotional a few times because of /mbti/, but this isn't one of them. : 3

This user said I'm larping and I've heard that enough for now, so it's finally time to make a list about myself.
What is "larping":
- (usually) exaggerated cuteness (I do use emoticons etc. in my normal posts too, but not as much)
- trying to focus on the positive
What isn't:
- things I've said about myself (or at least I've been trying to be honest here)
- test results
- my OC
- feelings and opinions

Thanks for reading! (*^ -^*)

in the interest of not getting this off-topic and turning it into a dude weed bro conversation i'll just give some tips and leave it at that.

stoners usually aren't shy about talking about who they buy from unless they are a big distributor and it's like a top king-pin type guy they buy from and if you just remain cool with them and ask them questions about what it's like to get high i'm sure they'll either give you some or just sell some to you. generally friendly people. some scumbag high school kids would probably try to rip you off so i'd avoid shady people.

i'd recommend buying some and trying it alone since introvert. the social anxiety of approaching people is the hardest hurdle to get over if you're prone to it, but it gets easier over time and it's worth it for the experience. you also probably won't get high your first or 2nd time smoking. the amount you'd want to smoke is small, like the size of your pinky fingernail. just light it, breathe into your lungs, hold it for like 2 seconds and blow out.

you can smoke out of anything. when i first smoked when i was 17 i had a plastic pen with a metal tip and i took the metal tip out, inverted it, stuck the weed in there and it worked if i taped it on. you could look up how to make a pipe out of an apple. probably the easiest thing to acquire and do.

go for it if you're interested.

there's exceptions to every rule but i'd imagine it's because of Ne and Si. just wondering what it's like and wanting the experience and being able to know for yourself.

As a primary or auxillary? Pyshical manifestations of accomplishments seem more Si to me, nostaglia itself seems good but a sensor, I believe, would rather something he can grasp and hold.

Smaug from the Hobbit films was INTP and his fascination with gold, and what it represents (given he was hardly going to spent it on dragon dildos) would be an example of where I'm going with this. He talks in detail about he he took the gold, how it was evidence of his might and greatness, how he would never part with a single piece of his hoard etc yes there's nostalgia, but he requires more than just the thought of that one time he fucked up some dwarves, in contrast with someone like Bilbo who enjoyed his memories for the sake of enjoyment

>time to start filtering posts again.
And this was such a nice thread. Fucking hell. Please please please nobody feed this goddamn thing.

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Dude why are you so worried about identifying yourself? We're all anonymous. Just post and enjoy it, man.

Do you have an actual explanation for this "rule"? I can hardly imagine an INTP kicking off at the floor after snorting cocaine off a whore's ass.

Ne creates ideas new ideas and takes in useful information, child Si backs up Ti with experience and memories, so yeah that could explain maybe an ENTP wanting so experience new things, but INTPs usually want to sit in the background and observe others.

>a sensor, I believe, would rather something he can grasp and hold.
Si can be quite abstract, and be all about traditions, the good old ways, if it isn't broke don't fix it, etc.
>Smaug from the Hobbit films was INTP
INTPs don't brag.

Not all ESFJs of course.
Their body count could actually legit be how many people they helped and not by fucking them.
Their "trophy wife" stuff could just be a little plan to make you better yourself and always just wanted you.
Their altruism could really not have many selfish motives and just enjoy happy people.
Their popularity could really be result of them being good people.

>INTPs don't brag.
Is this a joke? Anyone can brag it's not regulated to a certain type, Smaug is pretty much the only time a villian was writen as an INTP and it was done perfectly. And Ti/Si is a very arrogant combination honestly, it sees itself as the greatest source of truth and backs itself up with the history if it's own victories.

What type are you? How do you think a Si auxillary would set goals for themselves?

I have no idea where you're getting these ideas from. You're describing an INTJ.
INTPs might THINK they're always right or that they've won, but they don't brag about it or make it personal.
I'm INTP.
>How do you think a Si auxillary would set goals for themselves?
no idea. I suppose goals are more of a judgment thing.

>I can hardly imagine an INTP kicking off at the floor after snorting cocaine off a whore's ass.

well INTPs probably aren't going to be the ones doing uppers and things like coke and meth although they might find it useful to be more extroverted and open with people. i've read somewhere that they are more likely to try things like weed and psychedelics. and i'd imagine they aren't likely to do them at parties and shit like that. probably just alone or around few people they know and trust to gather stuff for Si.

like you said Si child likes having experiences for Ti and Ne is a fuel for getting new experience. ENTPs might be a better example on paper of drug chasers and users of more hardcore drugs because their Ne is dom so they are more likely to go out and experiment and probably do them more and also their Se demon, but this can also apply to INTPs because they also use Ne and Si. INTPs like Ti knowing and Si child likes experiencing things. they're probably likely to try drugs just to see what it's like and also Ti understand it and to have an Si experience.

i think of it like Se users like the whole experience of drugs and what it does to them physically itself and Si users like knowing what it does to them and what it's like for them. Si users are probably likely to try it for personal reasons. Se users like the feeling and are probably more addicted and use more on average.

also Fe inferior might play a role in feeling like they are missing out in the social environment and being a bit insecure because lots of people do drugs, so they must be interesting.

agreed, don't let the ass-buckets get to you friend

INTP here and I've done coke, heroin, and meth in shady situations for the hell of it. You'll probably negate that because of your fixed belief that all INTPs are just like you, which as it turns out, is not the case. But we do share a sense for the love of novelty and absurdity. Ne seeks out the unique patterns and implications of whatever it's exposed to, while Si feverishly documents it for later analysis. Because of this we have an internal barometer for what tests our sense of structure, as in our love for the absurd, and we are always trying to push it just a bit further.

Nothing to say about this but great post.

>think instead everyone should just accept people are they truly are.
perfectly said.

A little spoiler about INTJs:

Sometimes they will intentionally claim their ideas to be unarguable and the best in a challenging tone because they want to bait people into giving them honest criticism that they think they will otherwise not receive due to Fe circlejerk bullshit.
Though you better be ready to not make baseless claims, otherwise their Te simply cannot trust you.

lol when did mbti threads make you hyperemotional?

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>claim their ideas to be unarguable and the best in a challenging tone because they want to bait people into giving them honest criticism
Like what you're doing now.

;)

>I have no idea where you're getting these ideas from
I explained the basis of my claims, i'm not sure why you're pretending this is unthinkable, Ti is objectively a self-centred function. Not that that's a bad thing, it's ultimately required for individualism, which is something most INTPs prize themselves on.
>You're describing an INTJ.
No, Ti/Si is INTP, INTJ is Ni/Fi.
This is the first time I've ever encountered someone claiming Smaug isn't an INTP, he is a perfect example of one, his entire speech is littered with segments that highlight this fact, hell even his actions like sitting under the mountain observing the actions of middle-earth, while absolutely not caring in the slightest about the upcoming war while still obviously knowing what's about to happen in detail.
> but they don't brag about it or make it personal
And i'm now telling you, yes they do. I've explained why. Why do you think believe they're incapable of bragging?
>I suppose goals are more of a judgment thing.
Don't be ridiculous, anyone can and usually have a goal no matter how long-term or short-term.

I'm not sure where you've gotten your information from.

That's pretty cool. I respect the honesty here. There seems to come a point after arguing with an INTJ where their ideas flow more freely and constructively, if one has first sufficiently defended their own ideas. Actually my relationships with INTJs are all strengthened once we discover this mutual love of precision and nuance.

I really enjoy whiskey sours. I like boiling the water and sugar to make simple syrup and storing it in the fridge so I can whip myself up a delicious drink any time.

You sound like an emotionally immature child. Please dont date anyone else or even go outside until you've grown up.

>You'll probably negate that because of your fixed belief that all INTPs are just like you, which as it turns out, is not the case.
That was an excellent emotional plea, especially for someone who identifies as an INTP for some reason. Now if you were a thinker you might have stopped to think "this guy asked me for the basis of my claims" and then maybe you could have thought about why you are making them and how best to explain them, but for some reason Ti just didn't seem to come naturally to you there. I also enjoyed the fact you started the post with a list of drugs you've taken to build yourself as an authority on the subject, which function would appeals to authority come to again?

You could have stuck with the discussion but you had to fly off the handle. Who's the emotional one here? Remember that you pulled an ad hominem further up where you attacked me for smoking weed.

I mean I don't really find better ways to make people answer honestly.
If I seem to seek for a positive emotional response people will just not give me what I wanted.

Yeah I do this shit a lot of times.
The defense it's because I cannot still see the basis of the "opponent"'s claim, but of course sometimes my idea was actually the better one already.