Can I hate capitalism for existential reasons rather than political?

Can I hate capitalism for existential reasons rather than political?

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What are they? That sounds pretty political

You can do whatever you want as long as you pay your taxes wagie :^)

I guess I'm not really opposed to free enterprise and shit, it's just that capitalism has been coupled with globalization and industrialization, and it hasn't been good.

>90% of people work bullshit jobs that are unimportant and unfulfilling, and they get nothing in return except a few jew tokens they use to buy useless shit that mass media convinces them to buy

Just look at bug culture, it's unironically the result of capitalism, even if most bugmen want some social democratic welfare state. The last man is literally the result of capitalism

true that. the last man doesnt exist in soviet style socialism because he always works for the state. he is as big as the state is strong and all powerful. the freedoms we have are not freedoms at all and this board all the proof i need of that.

No, you're very much allowed to, especially after explaining in The thing that bothers me, though, is that I'm not sure the people were any less materialistic before capitalism.

well the critique of capitalism has nothing to do with how "materialistic" people become under it

The entire Marxist critique is based on existentialism.
The core issue with capitalism is the alienation from the labor you perform. The work you do is meaningless to you, because your work is not your work. It is a thing you do to survive. You are not in control of your life. And you are never compensated with the actual value of your labor, because to make money the capitalist has to take a cut.
Your critique of consumerist culture is also spot on.

You are literally a cultural Marxist and you don't even realize it. Read Marx, Adorno and Baudrillard. It's exactly what you're looking for.

That's exactly why I hate capitalism more and more. It's slowly turning into Monarchy 2.0 and it isgoing against every of our natural ways of existence for the sake of a few people securing all the ressources and the expansion of economical Empires.

I don't give a shit about politics anymore. Whatever the system, it can never be installed by people with human decency in mind since people with such decency don't believe in enforcing systems. Instead it has to be legit gangsters who take advantage of the people's vulnerability to rise a revolt. Make it seem like it's the intention of the people, convince them that their gang of murderers is best suited to be at the wheel of tge revolution and when the previous regime is overthrown, the gangsters opress the people under the new one. At first Capitalism looked like the best thing because it organized society into an industry focused workforce where everyone has a part to play and where everyone has a chance to strike Gold if they have enough balls to try. Modern giants that, back then, were started by two jack of all trades in their garage, an healthy economy that reaps the profit off of effective production lines ran by competent people.
But all of this was before climate change, before any ressource crisis, before inflation and before an economical deficit. Now the wheel is spinning too fast and the only way to sustain this system is by brainwashing everyone into buying useless shit and a new car every 5 years in order to justify the existence of massive industries that can't really dissapear like that because they inject tons of money into the economy. Governments increase taxes, cut budgets for education and healthcare because we need to priorize corpirations and making sure we have a big enough workforce. The system is overloaded, wagers are underpaid and overworked because finding competent personnel has become damn near impossible since scholl does a shit job preparing people for adult life.

Read into postmodernism

Not Marx', but there are others who base their critique on these things:
D&G, Adorno and Horkheimer, Baudrillard, Habermas, Nick Land, Mark Fisher. I can list off names all day

It's accelerating.
Everything is going faster and faster. We're rushing headfirst towards the abyss and there's no slowing down. So rejoice and accelerate.

Accelerationism is the only ideology in this radical neoliberal hellhole

So you did read the Dark Enlightenment, I take it?
What do make of it?

I guess, my opposition to capitalism isn't entirely political though. Like I said I'm okay with free enterprise I guess, it's just that this society based on "freedom and capitalism" people talk about almost always means being slaves to corporations and being "free" to just go shopping

Well the only possible way the machine can stop right now is if it fucking seize and break apart under its own abuse, so I agree with you on this.

Which is exactly why I'm buying land with 4 other buds next year. We plan to start settling an auto-sufficient area. The general idea is if we all pool together we can buy a really big piece of land in the outdoors far from the city. Since we have a tradition of camping together for a weekend every year, we thought it would be cool to own our own camping spot, but the more we talked, the more we realized that the 5 of us actually had the practical knowledge and experience to build something sustainable and auto-sufficient. So we're gonna build a small commune that we're gonna go everytime we want if we need to fuck off from that urban hell and when everything comes crashing down we'll have a backup escape spot. I don't believe in crashing with the plane though. If I can realistically fuck the system around by going offgrid I'm gonna do it without hesitation.

Nah man, but if it's an interesting read I'm gonna give it a try.

Truth be told I'm not exactly well-versed in politics, philosophy and sociology. Most of the conclusions I draw are from my own observation and critique of the system both as an actual wageslave in the machine and someone who has seen a lot of different environments growing up. When I was real young my parents were business owners so I was introduced to this mindset very early in life. Then they divorced and my mom was broke so we started over in a legit ghetto so I spent a few years witnessing lower middle class to poorfag class to drug dealers and all the shit that goes on in a hood. Then I went to live with my dad and, as a teen, I grew up in my stepmom's family which was 1% as fuck, well educated and corporative pro capitalist. I was pushed around to go to university to become someone important so much that I ended up dropping out. The rest is what I know based on my historical knowledge. I LOVE history and I think it gives a very solid understanding of how politics, economies, power and ressources struggles work as well as give a good idea of the overall focus of mankind since we started recording our shit. Knowing all that it wasn't too hard to make sense that capitalism is just one big fucking rose tinted illusion that hides some of the greatest evils of humanity both against fellow men, but also nature and the world itself.

Hey! i noticed you posted a picture of my wife crispy,i would apreciate if you stoped doing that :)

>cultural marxist
not really a thing outside of Jow Forums boogeymen. you can critique society through a marxist perspective, even through the lens of dialectal materialism and other big words, but the term cultural marxist nowadys means da ebil jooz and has nothing to do with marxism

>I'm okay with free enterprise I guess
You guess?
Well, you did see where us mostly free enterprise got us, right? You're pretty dissatisfied with it.

>it's just that this society based on "freedom and capitalism" people talk about almost always means being slaves to corporations and being "free" to just go shopping
Exactly. But do beware of people trying to sell you spooks like racial ideology using this rhetoric. It's only a small, ineffective comfort blanket draped over capitalism's broad, bulllike shoulders.

>Well the only possible way the machine can stop right now is if it fucking seize and break apart under its own abuse, so I agree with you on this.
Of course. The neoliberal perpetuum mobile is going to keep moving faster unless you seize it and break it. Who is going to seize and break it is very hard to predict right now.

What you are describing here again sounds remarkably like what the Dark Enlightenment is about. A central idea that is often overlooked it is that you should be able to just fuck off and get out, if you're not satisfied.

>Nah man, but if it's an interesting read I'm gonna give it a try.
It's interesting, alright. It's about as pitch black and far right as you could possibly go. It's completely insane, but it is an extremely interesting analysis of capitalism and it offers a uniquely psychotic solution.
Instead of collapsing the system into a monarchy, like you describe, just have everyone come clean with their shady corrupt dealings and force them to do it in public.
Make the money the actual institutionalized state power and run the government like a company. Mencious Moldbug, self-styled "Sith Lord", is advocating creating a real-life cyberpunk dystopia.

It's exciting, it's terrifying and it is without a doubt completely mad. It's basically the other side of the coin and a scarily realistic vision of where things might be heading if we keep making them go faster.

I want to be suffocated by her thighs
It would be the best way to die.

Of course the Dark Enlightenment also has its bad segments when it deals with social justice issues, sometimes it's spot on, especially in the way the media manufactures the narrative. But most of the it just takes a big swing and misses completely.

>you can critique society through a marxist perspective, even through the lens of dialectal materialism and other big words
That is what I was referring to.

>but the term cultural marxist nowadys means da ebil jooz and has nothing to do with marxism
And that is why I used this specific term.

i hate capitallism because my hopes and dreams haven't worked yet and i'm working a shitty wage slave, forced to get my head back in reality by drinking to bite the bullet, and doing a CS degree against my hopes of making it solo. fuck fuck fuck

No.
Being suffocated by her belly

>You should be able to fuck off if you don't like it.
That's the idea behind it. I know a lot of naive hippies who dream about the same thing so when I talk about it from the point of view of a down to earth guy. The idea behind my thinking comes from a phrase I heard once which said "Roads will be build even without the government" and also a local story about two municipal workers who, with their own money and competence, filled a massive hole on their street that caused many accidents and, despite citizen's pleas, the city did nothing for 3 years. It got me thinking that surviving is nothing more than acquiring the knowledge and skills to ensure your own prospering while relying on no one or as few people as possible. If I can ensure my own comfort and security I don't need to live in a massive society that takes your soul in exchange for breastfeeding you.