You were strapped against your will and had the most sensitive part of your body removed for cosmetics. We call this circumcision and it is legal to do on an unconsenting minor. Where is my body my choice?
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There are methods to stretch out your foreskin if you suffer from phimosis. youtube.com
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Why don't you give it a rest with this shit already? All this information is a google search away for anyone who cares, all you faggots are doing is constantly reminding everyone of shit they hate about themselves.
>You were strapped against your will and had the most sensitive part of your body removed for cosmetics. We call this circumcision and it is legal to do on an unconsenting minor.
Actually we call it genital mutilation and it's a crime and very severely punished (when done to girls).
>Where is my body my choice?
That's for women.
That's the problem. You are expecting a roastie to research the properties of the foreskin when her partner, her brother, and her father have already had the operation done to them. You're asking a roastie to question authority (the doctor). The only way to break this cycle of abuse is to inform people. If we just leave the topic uncovered, all we're doing is allowing another generation getting their bodily autonomy violated.
>wah wah roastie roastie wahh my dick
I know more women against infantile circumcision than men. Sheeeesh, you seem mad about something, maybe they took more skin than your tiny dick could afford, incel.
You totally seem normal caring so much about baby dicks. What a rational, well adjusted human being you must be
>women caring about things that aren't hedonistic or wastes of time like makeup tutorials
haha
Uncircumcised dicks are objectively more aesthetic. That's what they care about.
a penis with foreskin looks just like an circumcised one once you pull the skin back. Actually, it looks even better, as it's usually red and moist.
holy shit you are so jewish, the holocaust never happened and jews are genetic inbred freaks who will die out regardless of what anyone else does
Where's the evidence? This is quite an interesting topic and I would like to hear the other side, but from what I know at the moment, circumcised men have 50-60% less of a chance of getting HIV from females, and there's inadequate evidence showing that the foreskin makes your penis more sensitive. If there is anything out there that I missed, showing that foreskin truly is wrong, I would love to hear it. As of now though, it seems to me that the argument against foreskin is appeal to nature and poorly done sensitivity study.
tldr; I'd like more information on the argument against circumcision because currently, I don't see any well backed up arguments at the moment, but would like to hear them because this topic does intruige me.
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The studies that show the lessening of HIV are biased since the Africans who were circumcised in the study received more medical attention and ultimately learned how to use condoms. Also, if it were true, there is still no need to remove the foreskin for a slight reduction. If you're going to have sex with someone who is HIV positive, you will be using a condom.
The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis, and it keeps the head moist. The frendulm and the ridid band (which ribbed condoms attempt to imitate) are always removed. Please watch the video, Eric Clopper covers the origin, the propagation, and goes over multiple studies about the foreskin and the corruption in our medical system.
To add on, there is also the ethical part of the practice. We ban all cosmetic surgeries on minors, including tattoos and surgeries like breast and nose jobs. We even ban female genital mutilation. Why is the removal of the foreskin any different? Why do we prohibit one but allow the other? And on an unconsenting minor too? At the very least we must allow him to have autonomy over his own body.
So caring about the health of infants means you are an Ill-adjusted incel?
Dubs and trips (the mark of the beast). Very impressive. You speak the big true true. Also 5 + 2 = 7.
Go away rabbi, people with empathy are speaking, and trying to make a point
Why are you so obsessed with baby dicks? Ugh, sometimes I forget how pathetic people can be.
>I know more women against infantile circumcision than men.
Your experience is the exception to the rule.
Woman, right?
I take it you support female circumcision for the same reason.
More like outraged by some people mutilating vulnerable and defenceless human beings for obscure hygenic or ethnic reasons.
>Why is the removal of the foreskin any different? Why do we prohibit one but allow the other? And on an unconsenting minor too? At the very least we must allow him to have autonomy over his own body.
Because bodily autonomy only applies to women.
HER body, HER choice.
>Where is my body my choice?
A majority of the "my body my choice" people are actually anti-circumcision as well as pro-choice. You're preaching to a choir.
>A majority of the "my body my choice" people are actually anti-circumcision
[citation needed]
At the very best, they wouldn't circumcise their own sons (unless their husbands wanted it). They don't lift a finger to ban it, they don't speak out against it, they don't recognize it as no different to female circumcision, they "respect" the religious "right" of Muslims/Jews/Christians (for whom it isn't even part of the bible) to mutilate their sons (but not daughters, sorry Muslims. The words "his body, his choice" have never once left their lips. And anyone who does speak out about circumcision, they attack and shame as an anti-feminist.
They are not anti-circumcision.
Way to really impose your own delusional view of a entire political movement into a limited reductionist crock of shit manufactured at your convenience.
>Where is my body my choice?
your mother can abort you. your mother can cut your dick off. why make this comparison?
No citation then?
Didn't think so.
>becoming the meme
OH SHIT, ITS AN MS PAINT DRAWING, YOU'RE FUCKED NOW user
where the fuck is he supposed to find a citation supporting just a simple observation? not everything needs a fucking citation.
I hate how on TV shows they just make jokes of circumcision. Like on Seinfeld, Kramer is shown as a fool for being against circumcision, and the other characters make a point of saying how gross uncut penises look like "martians". I remember the Jew on Big Bang Theory making a joke about how his people "invented circumcision".
On these popular sitcoms they just treat it so lightly, nobody bats an eye, they're being conditioned to think it's perfectly normal and okay, and if you question it, "uhm, like, seriously dude? it's not a big deal get over it".
Step 1: The routine circumcision of infants must be abolished. Any person who performs a circumcision on a minor will face severe fines and imprisonment.
Step 2: All people who were circumcised before they could consent must be compensated, as their body was used for research purposes and used in the process of making profitable beauty products.
Step 3: Foreskin regeneration services must be covered by insurance.
I know this will never happen but it's the only way I'll be satisfied.
Theres a company using the foreskins of cadavers (corpses really) to regrow genuine foreskins. They kill all cells on the foreskin but leave a lattice of proteins i think as the basic structure. Attach it to your body, get a few stem cells i believe in there, and boom, a genuine fully working foreskinz all nerves and everything.
He (or she) made a bullshit claim about feminists based purely on his desire to paint them in a positive light, then got triggered when called out on all the obvious ways his political movement shows it cares zero about circumcision I mean come on, when have they lifted a finger, when have they spoken out against it, when have they said "his body, his choice"?
That user obviously knows the answer to all these questions is "never", that's why his goes on the defensive when called on his lie, instead of simply opening google and proving wrong.
>"th-they totally do oppose it!! just don't you dare ask me for one time they ever opposed it!!"
Pretty pathetic kind of lie.
>He (or she) made a bullshit claim about feminists (You) based purely on his desire to paint them in a positive light,
It really was just based on what I've noticed over time. It wasn't supposed to be taken as strictly factual and supported by evidence. It was just a personal anecdote that you took way too seriously, autismo.
I usually hate bringing up statistics because discussions involving them usually devolve into a stat battle where for every cite you bring up, there's a rebuttal that totally negates it, and it goes back and forth like that forever until someone gets tired. But since you demand some sort of statistic, fine.
According to the CDC's MMWR, data gathered solely from hospitals report circumcision rates of newborn boys dropping from around 63% in 1999 to around 56% in 2010, with the absolute height of procedure reaching 80% in the 1960s.
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So it's very clear that circumcision is falling way out of vogue and while I can't prove that feminists are directly responsible for this, that was never really my case to begin with. I was just trying to say that most people, including feminists, are anti-circumcision.
Also, female circumcision and male circumcision ARE very different. Not having a foreskin and not being able to reach orgasm at all are separate things.
>It wasn't supposed to be taken as strictly factual and supported by evidence.
Don't worry, I didn't take it as factual or supported by evidence.
>I was just trying to say that most people, including feminists, are anti-circumcision.
Okay but that's not what you said and I stand by what I said, that these left-wingers preaching "her body her choice" have never so much as lifted a finger against (male) circumcision. Matching the total lack of evidence any of them did any of the many things they could have done against male circumcision.
Democrat lawmakers in California have passed laws to keep male circumcision legal there, so you can't even say the left in general is anti-circumcision, besides for girls.
>Also, female circumcision and male circumcision ARE very different. Not having a foreskin and not being able to reach orgasm at all are separate things.
You're wrong to imply male circumcision can't prevent orgasm or that female circumcision necessarily does. Stop buying into the lies invented by people who wanted to ban one and maintain the other.
>most people, including feminists, are anti-circumcision.
Your own 2010 figure is 56% of boys being circumcised, that's still mostly cut. The rate's going down and that's nothing to do with Her Body activists.
You're also conflating being against it and not doing it. People who don't mutilate their own sons can still want it legal. That's not being against it, that's just not doing it.
Thousands of feminists are marching with their "her body her choice" placards and millions have marched at the anti-Trump "Women's Marches".
If even 1% as many had marched against circumcision, or done literally anything else to stand up against it, you and I would both know it. They didn't. Not even half a % of the her Body activists have done even one of the very easy, very low effort things that they could have against circumcision. All less effort than picking up a placard like they do for their own bodies. But none of them do, not even 1%.
It's great it's falling. I can't wait for the world to recognize men's rights
This. They're all for my body my choice but don't consider circumcision part of the topic. They don't understand that they are committing what they have been protesting against. When they start applying the mindset to circumcision, then we'll see results.
Jeez what a bunch of whiny babies you are. Women are finally being heard and you feminine betas want some of that precious sympathy and attention.
>b-but muh millimetre of dick skin
Okay and..? Get foreskin restoration. Get a job.
actually we aren't all dumb burgers
BWHAHAHAHHAHHHHHAHHAHAHHA u fucking tards HAHAHHABWHAHAH
I'm cut, I hate being cut, and I am comforted by anti-circumcision threads because they make me realize that this demonic practice is going to end one day and the boys of the future will be spared what was done to me.
>The common perception of the foreskin is that it is rather inconspicuous and mostly unnecessary, and that circumcision is the removal of a tiny flap of skin, comparable to cutting the umbilical cord. On the contrary, in reality the foreskin accounts for about half of all of the penis' skin--fifteen square inches of skin on an adult male--serving to protect the rest of the penis and enhance sexual pleasure (35-37). It is the removal of significant organ tissue, done without the recommendation of a single major medical association in the world (38)7.
>The glans of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.
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Your "little flap of skin" lie is on borrowed time.
>Also, female circumcision and male circumcision ARE very different. Not having a foreskin and not being able to reach orgasm at all are separate things.
You need to educate yourself about this topic because you are putting children at risk and making the world a dumber, shittier place. Here.
researchgate.net
Read it. Then read this.
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It's obvious propaganda.
I'm cut, I love being cut, and I am comforted by anti-circumcision threads because they make me realise that uncut OP is a sperg. The boys of the future will spared of these boring ass threads.
>I love being cut
You love the fact that people decided to forcibly cut off part of your penis before you could even defend yourself because 100 years ago a psychopathic pedophile cereal vendor convinced people it was a good idea?
Just think how fucking loony that is when you look at it.
Lowkey my Dick looking fine as hell and I get compliment for being cut. All I can say is
>Have sex
I am against cutting femals tho. But for males I do not care.
>Women are finally being heard
>I am against cutting femals tho.
Why shouldn't girls get to enjoy what boys do?
>Why shouldn't girls get to enjoy what boys do?
Well maybe because there is a difference between a penis and vagina? Are you retarded? Why even discuss with me when you don't see the difference here.
I would highly suggest checking out the documentary American Circumcision. A lot of your questions are addressed there, and there are interviews from both those in favor and against. It's definitely worth watching.
Regarding sensitivity, an objective, controlled, peer-reviewed study proved that the foreskin itself is the most sensitive part of the penis. Removing the most sensitive part of the penis makes the penis less sensitive inherently.
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>The glans of the circumcised penis is less sensitive to fine touch than the glans of the uncircumcised penis. The transitional region from the external to the internal prepuce is the most sensitive region of the uncircumcised penis and more sensitive than the most sensitive region of the circumcised penis. Circumcision ablates the most sensitive parts of the penis.
There is a pro-circumcision activist professor called Brian Morris who has spammed the literature with his own biased "studies" to try and prop up this inane practice using lies and deception. He ended up causing a major scandal with a journal because he set up the peer review in his own favor.
retractionwatch.com
What's THE difference between the male and female genitalia that makes cutting the most sensitive part of the male genitalia off without consent okay, wheras any cutting of the female genitalia is wrong?
Female cirucmcision doesn't necessarily include removing the clitoris. A lot of the common forms remove only part of the clitoral hood, which is the female foreskin. Yet you would have a problem with that right?
Do they cut girls for aesthetic tho?
Bc my dick is all aesthetics
>Do they cut girls for aesthetic tho?
Yes. And for every other reason used to justify cutting boys as well (religion, "hygiene", "mama was cut, grandma was cut, she's gotta be cut too"), and so on.
In cultures that cut more severely, removing the labia, girls who still have their labia are called "cow pussy".
Also, in previous replies you kept talking bout consent. WHERE THE FUCK DID I MENTION THAT I GOT CUT WITHOUT MY CONSENT NIGGER.
Top kek
So did you get cut with your consent or without your consent?
My circumcised dick works great and the only reason yours doesn't is because you're pornsick and addicted to death-gripping your cock. Get over it, you'd be just as much of a loser with a little extra dick skin.
How well does your foreskin work?
>looks even better
>red and moist.
That's gonna be a Yikes from me dawg
Just as good as anyone elses since they don't do shit.
Reminder that all cutfags are im perma cope mode.
So I'm circumcised and don't give a shit about it. (Had that thing where my dick-skin was too tight and kept getting infections so I had it lopped off when I was 6 or 7.) Works fine for me.
Anyways I didn't have my son circumcised because I don't see the point of it. He's 2 years old now and has this white bump on his dickhead underneath his foreskin, which is starting to seperate from his head. I think it's like a build up of smegma or something? I Googled what it is and all I get are a bunch of anti-circumcision propaganda websites instead of some actual fucking information about what the hell to do about my kids dickskin. That shit is enraging, you idiots have spammed up the internet so much that I can't even trust that "smegma pearls" are a real thing and if I should try to clean them out by pulling back his foreskin or not. So does anyone with dick-skin experience want to tell me what the fuck to do here or is your dumb propaganda going to make me need to take this kid to the doctor about his penis?
>I..I'm glad they cut me!
>Foreskins are useless!
You are a walking meme.
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The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the human penis and is a massive part of human sexuality. The reason circumcision started was because they fucking KNEW this and wanted to suppress male sexuality. Even today you'll find the occasional rabbi who'll admit this, but most doctors won't. And yet doctors up until the 60's were advocating circumcision because they knew that the foreskin was pleasurable--that's why they advocated cutting it off.
The idea that "it's just a little useless skin" is a complete 180 from the original rationale from doing it, to keep the practice going after the sexual revolution made the "it'll take away some of his sexual pleasure and tame him, and that's a good thing : ) " an unfeasible defense of the practice outside of religious extremist contexts.
They didn't steal some extra skin from you. They cut off the most sensitive part of your penis, which has types of nerve endings that you don't even have in the head or other parts of the penis. It's not just a matter of quantity (more sensation)--it's a whole different type of sensation that you can never experience.
Thems the facts bub. Didn't mean to hurt you but I can't have you spreading lies. Cutting kids has got to stop.
By the way, the massive sensory advancement and structure of the human foreskin is literally something that separates us from the rest of the apes. It's part of what makes the human penis unique compared to that of other animals.
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>Obviously, sensory innervation of the external genitalia is just one component of a very complex neural network that results in normal reproductive behaviour. Differences in the genital sensory innervation (such as the protopathic innervation of the human glans penis versus the dense corpuscular receptors found in the rhesus monkey) may help explain sexual behavioural differences between primate species that cannot be fully explained by morphology alone.78-80 The reproductive advantages provided by the prepuce during the last 65 million years should not be taken lightly. The results of this study demonstrate that the human prepuce is not "vestigial" but is, in fact, an evolutionary advancement over the prepuce of other primates. This is most clearly seen in the evolutionary increase in corpuscular innervation of the human prepuce and the concomitant decrease in corpuscular receptors of the human glans relative to the innervation of the prepuce and glans of lower primates.
And yet they took that from you, lied to you that "it was just some extra skin", and here you are, trying to spread their lies, probably without even knowing it.
That's no problem cutbro. Doing it for medical reasons its fine. What anti-cutfags are arguing for is doing it on infants for no reason at all other than to appease their Jewish overloads.
You fags really just write fanfiction about magical dick-skin and pretend it's science, huh?
I'm honestly laughing at you and your barely coherent gibberish. Nothing you said is a fact it's just bullshit propaganda spread by morons who don't know how to use their cocks.
No, you shouldn't be pulling back his foreskin at all. That isn't "anti-circumcison propaganda"; it's a fact based on human anatomy.
Oh yeah I'm totally fine with my dick the way it is. Seems to work fine for me and my wife and that's all I really care about. I just don't know what the hell to do about my son. I'm pretty sure his dick is fine but the websites that I can find talking about "smegma pearls" are so obviously propaganda sites by people really, really mad about circumcision that I can't trust their information.
Probably gotta give Telehealth a call or take him in to the doctor just for peace of mind. If it's natural and going to eventually wash out on its own I just want to know so I don't stress about trying to clean it off and worrying if it's some kind of growth that could cause damage.
No, it's a fact. You are in denial.
>The glans penis is primarily innervated by free nerve endings and has primarily protopathic sensitivity [43]. Protopathic sensitivity refers to cruder, poorly localized feelings (including pain, some temperature sensations and certain perceptions of mechanical contact) [44]. In the glans penis, encapsulated end-organs are sparse, and found mainly along the glans corona and the frenulum [43]. The only portion of the body with less fine-touch discrimination than the glans penis is the heel of the foot [45]. In contrast, the male prepuce ridged band (Fig. 7) at the mucocutaneous junction has a high concentration of encapsulated receptors [46]. The innervation difference between the protopathic sensitivity of the glans penis and the corpuscular receptor-rich ridged band of the prepuce is part of the normal complement of penile erogenous tissue.
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>The loss of the prepuce ridged band and the formation of an amputation neuroma are two further complications associated with male circumcision. Although a Fourcroy grade 1 female circumcision would excise less tissue than in a male, this comparison cannot be used to justify female circumcision. Excision of normal, erogenous genital tissue from healthy male or female children cannot be condoned, as the histology confirms that the external genitalia are specialized sensory tissues.
British Journal of Urology, Volume 83, Suppl. 1: Pages 34-44,
January 1999.
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This isn't "fanfiction"--it's a histological review that shows the actual nerve endings of the foreskin. The proof's in the pudding chum.
You can lie to yourself all you want, but the facts are the facts.
Cool, complete opposite of what they taught me as a kid. His head isn't totally detached from his dick-skin yet so I guess I just won't worry much about it. I gotta say though that the big lump of white "something" in there is concerning to see, makes me understand the cleanliness argument in favour of circumcision a little more.
There's no medical reason to cut, unless you have cancer, gangrene or frostbite
Your doctor might not know what to do. Read the article I sent you (which is written by a board-certified urologist who has devoted a ton of her time to becoming an expert on foreskins).
If the advice you get from your doctor conflicts with this actual expert advise I would strongly question it and maybe contact Dr. Carmack yourself. Most doctors are not experts on foreskins.
Oh cool so it is just weird propaganda that isn't backed up by normal doctors. Neat I'll totally listen to a dick-skin advocate instead of the woman who delivered my happy, healthy boy.
My dickhead hurt like a bitch and kept getting inflamed and irritated. Never separated properly from my head and I felt better as soon as it got ripped off. I'd say that's a good reason to get it snipped off and like I said my dong works wonders to this day.
>I'm not going to get my eyes checked out by an optometrist. Optomitrists are weird eye-goop-ball advocates. I'm going to see a doctor who didn't study eyes much at all. I'm sure that's the best idea.
>I'm not going to get my tongue lump checked out by a doctor who's devoted time to learning about tongues; that's creepy and gross. I want to see one who doesn't know what they're talking about.
This is how absurd you're being right now.
Weren't you 7 years old? The foreskin separates enough to allow retraction more commonly around age 10.
If you were having your foreskin pulled back to clean under it, it was getting damaged and scarred.
>If you were having your foreskin pulled back to clean under it, it was getting damaged and scarred.
I was and I guess that was the problem but oh well I guess that dick-skin was already ruined, better off without it.
Pretty sure that's what they used to tell everyone to do back then.
Like saying tires on a car don't do shit...
>Pretty sure that's what they used to tell everyone to do back then.
It was, and that's why so many boys "needed to be circumcised"--their foreskins were getting messed up because of this incorrect advice. Now more doctors know better but unfortunately some still aren't aware that the standard of care has changed to line up with current evidence.
Kinda like how we used to yank everyone's tonsils out whenever they got a damn cold (happened to me too).
Good to see times are changing.
in some cases in can take until age 18 or even later.
Okay at that point you should just get circumcised, seriously. You should be getting your dick wet by 16 not worrying about whether or not it will ever look like a grown up weenus.
It's all to get more money from insurance companies...
Bros... I want my foreskin back
You sound originally not very bright.
>boo-hoo I don't like when they make jokes about what I don't want them to joke about
grow up snowflake
How many jokes do you hear about rape? female genital mutation? Boob jobs on babies? Zero, huh... Why?
>How many jokes do you hear about rape? female genital mutation? Boob jobs on babies?
>Zero
lol you don't watch a lot of Family Guy or South Park, do you
>mfw into penis mutilation porn and the idea of having my penis sliced up has a helpless baby turns me on
Think they did pretty good with my dick anyway. I still have enough excess skin to roll over to tip of my penis before it gets hard. Can also fap without lube.
You know who's to blame for that...
And you sound like you're too smart for your own good but at the same time not smart enough to improve your life situation. That's much, much worse.
>tfw the same
>tfw only have pseudo foreskin because fat
>tfw if I lose weight I may lose my foreskin
What is a man to do?
You have no frame of reference. You don't know what good feels like because you've never experienced it before. It's as if you've had your hand in mittens your entire life, but you're still happy you can feel something when you touch it. You and I don't know what we are missing... and that is a sad thing.
God you faggots are just obsessed with your dicks. Who cares at all, seriously? You said yourself you can't tell the difference or even if there IS a difference but you're so obsessed with the concept of being able to enjoy jerking off just a little bit more that you're absolutely seething about it all your life.
Gain height, get a clue and have sex.
i know how it is senpai.
i feel u
Would you say the same about FGM?
Yes. I'd just replace "Gain height" with "Lose weight".