You know what's most sad about Jow Forums? It's not the bigotry, or the low-effort posts...

You sound mad as hell. Tinder is a microcosm of real world sexual relations and can definitely be used to learn more about gender dynamics and sexuality.

in my experience the more physically attractive men get women the easiest. Women always dropped me to be with men more attractive than me.
are you going to keep being like this?

Tinder especially, but dating sites in general are indeed woman-centred. However, real life isn't, and the moment you actually go on a date, it becomes an equal experience, where you're both trying to figure out if there's any chemistry or w/e.

I'm sure you feel that way, but there are plenty of women who similarly feel like they're not finding anyone out there for them. It's a matter of perspective - you just don't see the other side struggling, cause you're thinking of females as all being turbo-staceys with fuck-buddies and a new guy each night.

>in my experience the more physically attractive men get women the easiest.
Yes because physical attractivity is part of attractivity.
>Women always dropped me to be with men more attractive than me.
I will assume you meant more physically attractive?
If so you either chose a superficial woman or you don't have a lot going for you. Either way how many women went into an actual relationship with you and then left you for someone purely based on their looks? Be honest.

>Your height defines your destiny
Nah, but it does go a long way to determining whether people treat you with respect and dignity
>You'll never be able to have a fulfilling adult romantic relationship if you didn't lose your virginity as a teenage.
Not never, per se, but it does make it extremely unlikely. Everyone who has will likely have years of experience, which leads to confidence.
>Personal boundaries can only be maintained through acts of violence.
That, or threats of violence.
>Women aren't having sex with you because they're shallow and immoral.
Women ARE shallow, but they're amoral as opposed to inherently immoral. They seek resources, that's all. And women aren't having sex with robots because they're usually unattractive, both mentally and physically.
>>Happiness is something for naive idiots, whereas sadness is a sign of intellect and perceptiveness.
Happiness is a sign that you're not paying attention to the details.

>And the thing that's sad is that these are all normie guy 101 beliefs. It seems like people aren't sad because these are fake ideas used to punch down at people, but because they're not in positions to use these standards to be the ones punching down.
Maybe so.

It isn't, it's a skewed version of the dating world. You can equally go on Omegle and conclude that, since you'll mostly be talking to other guys, there must only be other men in the world.

>attractive people are more attractive
Thank you user for your incredible insight. In reality, men care about looks a lot more than women. Sure, women care about them too, and attractive people will have an easier time with both genders, but frankly you're going to have an easier time as an unattractive man than an unattractive woman.

You faggot, if you don't like thr board nobody obliges you to keep coming here.
What, are you trying to "help" us?
I don't remember having asked you for your help.
Now fuck off

>basically proving OPs point by trying to argue against him
Wew lad!

ok maybe i'm a bit of a retard too
whats your solution? are you going to tell me to get good?

Anyone can make threads about anything, user. No-one obliged you to come and offer your thoughts, but here you are.

Yeah, holy shit how is this not obvious to you. Is there anything in life you didn't give up on once you encountered any sort of difficulty? Talking to women is just a matter of practice, but you do need the practice (unless you intend to get very lucky, but at that point you could rely on winning the lottery too).

If your base assumptions are wrong, your conclusion won't follow. His last point had some merit, but it's a gross generalization. Fuck off with your sycophantry.

I don't have a solution but I can tell you that actively fueling your hate, distrust and negative world view by coming here is not going to help you get happy or seem attractive to many women.

Of course getting better is likely going to increase your chances of getting a partner. But one of the best dating strategies is being positive. This isn't guranteed to land you your crush but people with a positive attitude towards life are generally more attractive towards possible mates.
So do what you can to get happy.

Yeah, generally speaking, you want to sort your own shit out before going into the dating world.

i've been practising my whole life
im in my late 20s and still have trouble with women
it gets stressful. it hurts so much that i can't work or study/focus on anything really. i like to think i become more stoic after each time, but it's just getting worse.
i'm trying to forget about a girl right now and i cant focus on anything and i'm on the verge of having my life fall apart.

you can probably relate this to some experiences you've had in your own life, but you should really wonder how similar we really are

This.
Is really sad, i felt a little dissapointed when i realized that 90% of robots are like that. Do they realize they are only cucking themselves with these way of thinking?

BUT SHE HAS TO BE A VIRGIN!!
IT'S THE ONLY THING MAKING HER STAY WITH ME FOREVER!!
NOBODY WANTS THE COKE THAT HAS HAD A DICK IN IT!!!!11

>I applaud OP but also I'm sorry for him fighting windmills.

I'm sure I'm not the first person to make OP's observations. I'm sure I won't be the last. Mostly, I was curious just to see if these were things that Jow Forums generally accepted (Yes, we know that a lot of us are bitter about failing to conform to normie standards), or if there'd be some sort of pushback to that observation (No, those aren't actually normie standards at all, etc.)

I dunno. I've been spending a lot of time on here the last week. I understand the hook of wanting to commiserate with a bunch of people that are experiencing similar feelings of isolation and general life frustration. I wish the general consensus was more "These values are bullshit" and less, "These values are inconvenient truths."

Your post isn't 100% true but it is more true than the alternative.

I'm right and you're wrong
and that's final

It sounds like you care way way way way way too much

You know what's most sad about OP? It's not the faggotry, or the low-effort posts, or the general "I'm an intellectual" retardation that makes up most Original Posters.

What's most sad is that a lot of people around here seem to believe that OP has this 'outsider's wisdom' about life.
>Your faggotry defines your destiny
>You'll never be able to have a fulfilling adult romantic relationship if you start being a tranny, unlike OP.
>Personal boundaries can only be maintained through acts of OP sucking my dick.
>Women aren't having sex with OP because they have a positive IQ.
>Happiness is something for people who aren't OP, whereas sadness is a sign of not being a faggot like OP.

And the thing that's sad is that these are all 100% true. It seems like people aren't sad because these are ideas that only a faggot like OP could come up with, but because they have to see OPs same faggot threads everyday..

Caring too much is exactly the reason we're all virgins. Being desperate is the turnoff.

like i said i'm trying to forget but i cant
trying to distract myself etc?
how does one just not care? its a problem and not all of us have solutions available

Well yeah, that's what I'm saying, he should really be focusing on other things

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>how does one just not care?

Unfortunately this is something more individualized than general, but I would say the easiest way is finding something else to care about. Even if it's playing an autistic video game or collecting stamps. Any one thing that you can put some effort towards as long as you don't run the rest of your life into the ground doing it. Even if you don't become desirable at least you're earnestly enjoying something else

Another thing would be recognizing when you form a valuation of something based on what women would think about it. You should then throw that valuation out the window (i.e. "girls would probably think this anime is creepy")

Slowly, with time, you will begin to do things because you want to do them instead of doing them because you think you should

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100% true. The irony is that it's extremely difficult to stop being desperate without actually having options, so it's a bit of a vicious cycle.

>You should then throw that valuation out the window (i.e. "girls would probably think this anime is creepy")
Exactly this. The idea isn't to put up the lowest-common-denominator personality front up, it's to "bee yourself" and find someone who can deal with that. You don't need to find yourself some girl who loves anime as well, but as long as you're not exclusively talking about it, it'll be nice to have your own identity and interests, even though she won't share all of them.

I'm still pretty desperate so take this with a grain of salt, but I find that just doing more things (hobbies, even vidya and animu if you've got nothing else) and talking to comfy but relatable people (on the internet, duh) is healing :3

Outsiders wisdom is real but your age and place in society affects it. You see patterns others don't or simply can't. And you have to understand that most people here in fact normies. They may have some similarities with robots but not the same. Most of them are "foreveralone" losers for a few years then they figure out life like most people do. This makes them incapable to see the bigger picture.