This is a lie. From my observations in my nearly 30 years of life, the average guy suceeds whenever he tries to get with a girl, never facing rejection, let alone having to ask dozens if not hundreds of girls out first. Even autismos I've known having succeeded on their first attempts. It always goes like this:
>Guy meets girl, typically within his school class or friend circle, or at work >They talk, get to know eachother >Soon it becomes obvious guy likes girl as more than friends, the two start flirting heavily. >Next thing you know, the guy and girl are a thing
Think of it this way. If you were a guy who was considered desirable by the average women, then you wouldn't have to ask very many out, assuming you aren't asking girls you know are already taken anyway. If you were considered desirable by women (on average at least), and a women was available, then she is virtually guaranteed to say yes to you. The more women you have to ask out before succeeding the less likely you will succeed, not to mention the crushing blow to your ego and confidence with each consecutive rejection. Even if you eventually DO succeed, if finally a girl says yes to you, what's basically been confirmed at this point is that the vast majority of women do not find you desirable. You are, objectively, demonstrably, by the average women's standards, undateable.
Very astute observation user. I see this all the time. Girls just respond differently to some guys. The guys know it.
Here's some real advice, Fuck bitches, get money. Don't worry about women, focus on your goals and they will follow.
Gavin Morris
>Don't worry about women, focus on your goals and they will follow.
yeah not true
on my way to seven figure net worth and most def dying alone
Andrew Robinson
Most guys find relationships through their social networks, not by cold-approaching women. If you're cold-approaching women, then it really is a numbers game, like the lottery. Buy enough tickets and you'll either go broke or win eventually. The odds are just not in your favor.
Mason Young
>Very astute observation user. I see this all the time. Girls just respond differently to some guys. The guys know it.
Yep. Legit I have never seen a guy who wasn't legitimately suffering from a mental handicap get rejected. Maybe it's just most guys are good at knowing WHEN to persue, like when a girl is actually interest in them and not persuing UNLESS they are absolutely certain, but whatever the reason, virtually anytime a guy gets to a know a girl, and shows obvious interest in her, she reciprocates. Almost 100% without fail. Indeed, I would go as far as to say that getting rejected, at least more than a maximum of a few time compared to suceeding, is actually ABNORMAL. To be THAT undesirable that you get rejected the vast majority of the time, by dozens if not hundreds, is indicative of something deeply wrong with you, regardless of whether or not it's your fault.
>Here's some real advice, Fuck bitches, get money. Don't worry about women, focus on your goals and they will follow.
Agree with this, anyway.
Elijah Jenkins
Goals don't have to be financial.
Wyatt Campbell
The reason for this OP, is that normies are innately following body language cues, which set them up to interact with other people that appear to be reciprocal to their appearance/advances. It is all subconscious animal instincts, your personality has nothing to do with it, except if you are a robot and your body language is borked.
Parker Sullivan
>on my way to seven figure net worth and most def dying alone
And? Ask yourself this, what would a women add to your life anyway? Women cost you, not just your money through dates, gifts, etc., but emotionally. Physically. A relationship is a LOT of fucking work and isn't fun if it fails. Imagine spending 5-20 years on a girl, only for you to eventually realize she was cheating on you with tyrone the last half of your relationship. That's a vast chunk of your life completely invalidated, washing down the drain on some chick who decided to betray you.
Think about it. Think of the average girl you know, of any girl you've ever had a crush on, and ask yourself in what concievable way, was or is this girl special? What makes this girl important to me? Why would I want to spend my time, money and heart on her? How would she, specifically, enrich my life besides being just a warm body to lie down with every night? Why do I NEED her?
Almost certainly, you will fail to come up with any explanation, and then finally you will realize how utterly needless women are in a man's life.
James Perry
>The reason for this OP, is that normies are innately following body language cues, which set them up to interact with other people that appear to be reciprocal to their appearance/advances. >It is all subconscious animal instincts, your personality has nothing to do with it, except if you are a robot and your body language is borked.
So basically a normal guy just knows when a girl is interested, and only pursues then? Hence the near guaranteed success ratio of the average guy?
Lincoln Johnson
When you're doing lots of PUA shit this shit doesnt apply at all. Guys who never learn to do a cold approach are missing out unless maybe they're so chad they don't have time to fuck all the bitches available
Carson Hall
Except cold approaching you have fucking nothing to lose unless you're doing it all one small town where you become known as a creep
Juan Morgan
They can bare and raise children
Josiah James
Just about everyones been rejected by a girl you basement dwellers though you have a point about normies being good at social cues, it still happens to everyone It's why shit like the friendzone is mainstream and even chadlites have experienced it
Henry Rivera
Exactly. If you can read normal social cues of someone being interested/disinterested, your approach will never fail. However, a girl won't always be able to show you her interest, if, for example, she doesn't see you at first and is interacting with someone else. That is when you approach, introduce and see what the reaction is - just basic probing, nothing overt.
Think of it is as if you were to approach omeone on the street - you can usually tell by looking if someone is open to talking or not, if they are angry or relaxed - that is body language. Same with girls, except you add in element of your instinctual desire for contact with a woman.
Isaac Jackson
>Think of it this way. If you were a guy who was considered desirable by the average women, then you wouldn't have to ask very many out, assuming you aren't asking girls you know are already taken anyway. If you were considered desirable by women (on average at least), and a women was available, then she is virtually guaranteed to say yes to you. The more women you have to ask out before succeeding the less likely you will succeed, not to mention the crushing blow to your ego and confidence with each consecutive rejection. Even if you eventually DO succeed, if finally a girl says yes to you, what's basically been confirmed at this point is that the vast majority of women do not find you desirable. You are, objectively, demonstrably, by the average women's standards, undateable.
This. They don't understand because it comes to some guys way to easy. Like being being a tall guy in a small town without a lot of dudes around, they just ask out the first girl they can muster up the balls to talk to and she says yes.
They don't understand rejection and women don't either. They don't understand getting your hopes and failing, not just once but over and over and over and over. To the point where you get damn good at knowing how to respond to women's canned bullshit rejection lines and that throws them off their game.
Either way, people don't understand each other's perspectives, especially shallow people. They can't understand anything in depth at all.
>you can usually tell by looking if someone is open to talking or not, if they are angry or relaxed Unless you're psychic this kind of thinking actually causes guys to miss out on good opportunities, I can say that from experience in the field approaching girls with a ''bitch face''
Bentley Lewis
lmaoing at the broscience in this thread if you think that there is a single man live today that never got rejected you are delusional
Evan Kelly
A lot of guys become orbiters because they're too afraid to make a move and continue to wait until they get a sure sign They're so beta they can't handle a girl saying no and feel their social value rests on it
Jacob Morales
Yep, these people need to get out of the basement apparently badly
Henry Murphy
I was absolutely hopelessly neurotic and cowardly as a child and teen. At every point in my life I've had at least one girl trying to get me to come out of my shell or give her a chance and even though I wanted every one to work I fucked them up by running away or being retarded.
Eventually I started getting it right and I'm now trying for kids with my long term partner. If I wasn't attractive I'd absolutely be dying alone. I was born tall and thin, with a dick that while I'm not the biggest fan of is more than a little above average in size. I have a full head of hair and I'm white.
I was never nice to anybody because I was too self conscious and protective of my ego. I don't know if anybody needs this confirmation but most relationships I came close to were never about anything more than the fact girls wanted to be seen around with me. As it happens I'm a really good guy now, indistinguishable from a normal human but I didn't deserve all the opportunities
Benjamin Stewart
Shut up you fucking PUA nobody wants to buy your fucking book.
You've never met a guy that girls liked? Fuck off. That's what OPs post boils down to. It is a numbers game in a sense, but there is truth in what he says.
Some guys, 90% of girls will be attracted to.
Some, it's something like .5%
So, it's a numbers game. But if you're Mr .5%, like OP said, there is something deeply wrong with you. Even if it's not your fault.
Carson Moore
>the average guy suceeds whenever he tries to get with a girl naw man i dont think so, its just that most are too pussy to face rejection and only go for girls who they already know are interested in them. too afriad to try their luck because of possible (probable) rejection. most arent going to bat at random girls, you really do have to have some above average looks or game to accomplish random pickups
Alot of guys are just orbiters that flirt just lightly enough that they don't get ''rejected'' blatantly, and that helps their beta asses sleep at night
Andrew Brown
That was an example of the generality of body language, but before that I did mention that you still have to go and say hi if you see someone you are interested in and they haven't noticed you. It's basic common sense, how much of an autist you have to be if I have to spell this shit out? Oh wait, I remembered where we are. fucking idiot.
Ryder Reyes
haha whatever man, you're an idiot that fails for shit tests when a girl acts bitchy, not my problem
Charles Walker
how to get a gf: 1. face 2. be taller than her 3. be charming and liked by everyone around you i.e social status 4. make her laugh 5. have ambitions/goals/ etc
Jaxon Clark
>fuck off
The problem is that you seem to be extrapolating some kind of deductions from anecdotal evidence at best, more likely nothing more than assumptions and practically very little to no real life first hand experience. If I had to assume myself, I'd say you got rejected two or three times and now you are a bitter seething shitter who can't go on with his day without projecting his failure everywhere he goes.
I am an average as fuck dude who hangs out with some guys who are proper chads. They all get rejected. They all have unanswered DMs on instagram, they all have been rejected in person. It doesn't happen too often, more like a 50/50 kind of deal but it still happens a lot. You seem to think that women will fuck anyone who isn't unfuckable and that's where you are wrong.
I'm sorry if this bursts your bubble but serious grind is needed if you want a proper girlfriend, expect to go through at least 10 or 15 times of getting rejected, having a shit first date or generally ending up not liking whoever you are talking to. Adjust your attitude first and foremost, that kind of sour personality isn't too inviting, friendly advice.
Yea but the problem for robots to meet women comes down to having very little to no social life. We lack social skills and overtime socialising becomes very difficult to the point we don't know how to have a conversation with people let alone making advances on women. Sometimes robots are subjected to isolation because no one wants to be around us since we come across as akward and boring. Sometimes the guy isn't undateable but rather the lack of friends, connection and social skills leads him to live a lonely life.
Ryan Clark
Your advice isn't friendly and I never asked for it.
Jayden Roberts
Yeah you are if what I described applies to you
John Parker
>born tall and thin with a full head of hair I mean born a baby who would become that, obviously
Xavier Fisher
Uh-oh. You can't just slam dunk the truth on them like that, you can't just straight up murder them when all they wanted to do was live peaceful lives lying to losers.
Alexander Thompson
And losers don't HAVE social networks, you fucking retard. We're LOSERS, we're fucking friendless CREEPS. You goddamn moron, you fucking piece of shit.
Anthony Jackson
Sort of off topic, but say one of us losers actually turned out lives around and gained social status.
I would have even more disdain for people, I would not fuck with anyone. Those same people who talked down to me would be the irrelevant losers.
A man can dream.
Zachary Baker
Things kind of change when you finish high school don't worry.
Luis Morales
Nah, I'm just gonna kill everyone then due a virgin, so I can laugh at how the one deemed not even worthy to reproduce in his species still killed everyone in it. It'll be hilarious to see the fall of a species so embarassingly happen.
Dominic Powell
Oh yeah? THEN WHY DIDN'T THEY CHANGE FOR ME? I know you're jyst fucking memeing, but seriously, why the FUCK didn't they change? I thought when I grew up, I wouldn't be the ass end of the joke of life that gets kicked around and disposed when it isn't useful anymore. But it just fuckin got worse.
Just you watch bitches, I'm gonna wipe your stinkin planet from the universe and I'll be comin from the angle you least expect it.
Noah Lee
>you guys are such pussies LOL Can you imagine someone thinking so high of himself that he comes here, in r9k out of all places, to act alpha.
Jace Powell
Getting a gf is impossible if you are as ugly and low IQ as I am.
Maybe if reincarnation is real I will be born in the next life as a successful handsome male.
Carson Fisher
How to git gud at introductions for cold approaching? I only have success when I can tell theyre doing something like putting on sports gear or playing an instrument. Something broad and easy. How do I walk up to any girl and bring up an interesting subject to break the ice? Im going to the mall this weekend to practice cold approaching again and would like help.
Adam Perez
nice digits, but still bluepilled as fuck. not him btw.
Jordan Walker
can you imagine falling for reddit tier bait? well you just did Jow ForumsLeDonaldo
Cameron Perez
i wish this thread can be stickied, OP.
Mason Powell
Yea it's pretty crazy being born as a natural people repellent. Hopefully it makes it easier to repel the brains out of my skull later on in life.
Austin Torres
Holla holla bang chicks, they suck your dick. Im a shitposter and im rich. I bang your crush and my work pays much. Im a lyrical genius with no genuine feelings. Holla holla im also inside you, i banged your chick then i fucked you.
I was offering that as an observation, not advice. If there was simple advice I could give you that would get you a gf, then you wouldn't be here, would you? I
t's ridiculous that you guys both clamor for insight into how attraction works for normies and then turn around and reject that insight as soon as it's not immediately applicable to your life, which, by your own admission, is nothing like that of a normie. Adult men with no friends and no other attractive qualities are going to lose the dating game in the same way a team with no arms and legs is going to lose the Superbowl.
If you really want my advice, it's this - admit you have a deep disability and try and understand how it affects you life so you can mitigate the symptoms. Don't close yourself off to lucky breaks but don't expect them either. Cultivate other areas of your life and let go of romantic relationships until things change for you.
Lucas Clark
I don't entirely disagree, but what I've noticed is that guys get rejected the most when trying cold approach, even the average guys you speak of. Relying on body language cues is far more effective and common.
Jackson Campbell
i'm sorry to point this out, even tought you got your observations right, and your conclusion is fine, your title is not wrong or sarcastic as you've maybe intended. Since being agreable to women, or acceptably or physically atractive for them IS a number's game you get the day you're concieved, in your genotype. E.G.: Chadjaw, lower fat absorption, thyroid...
Anthony Thomas
I think people who say it's a numbers game mean that in a very specific context, as so do I. If you happen to interact with quite some people each day, girls included, of course you're going to go after a girl that shows interest into you and that interest is pretty obvious for people who interact daily with other people. But this is not the context we're talking about. We're talking about online dating where, YES, it's a number's game, even for extremely attractive guys and of course casual encounters in bars, parties etc. (where you meet a girl the first time and will probably never see her again - you just try your luck).
Jeremiah Butler
Honestly I don't think this is true. Even normie dudes go through a lot of rejection in their lives.
Parker Mitchell
>The stories and information posted here originally are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would believe anything posted here.
OP is a liar and a fag
Kayden Martinez
>Even normie dudes go through a lot of rejection in their lives.
If they are dumb enough to cold approach. Most of the successes my friends had with girls were when it was obvious that she liked him.
Jacob Allen
This here really, one should strive to expand his social circles as much as he can, especially after high school is over. Lone wolf attitude sounds cool but will get you nowhere fast.
