jordan peterson said that if you have at least 3 of these things
>no job
>no friends
>no intimate relationships
>alcohol or drug problem
>depressed
you are basically unsavable. He's worked with 1000s of depressed people. One of the foremost authoritys in psychology is literally telling you you are fucked.
>no friends
check
>no intimate relationships
CHECK
>depressed
CHECK!!!!
BINGOOOOOO!!!! What do I win?
Why should I care what some loser thinks about me. I can do anything I set my mind too
>depressed is one of the three things
So what the fuck is he saving people from?
>no job
>no friends
>no intimate relationships
>alcohol or drug problem
>depressed
Add to this anxiety issues.
Holy shit it is over, or maybe he is wrong who knows. Don't give up faggots.
>tfw no drug problems because social anxiety prevents me from meeting people selling drugs
>>no job
Check
>>no friends
Have 1 that has a girlfriend and works 7 days a week so I only see him 3 times a year
>>no intimate relationships
Check
>>alcohol or drug problem
Nope
>>depressed
Double check.
Jordan Peterson is a retard. I've checked hard on all of these and I turned my life around, wasn't even hard oh and did I mention that I'm ugly? You retards seem to think that being ugly is the worst thing ever.
No he didn't. Provide a source.
Jordan Peterson is also going to die of ass cancer in the next 10 years so joke's on him
Guess he only ever treated normies.
>jordan peterson
if you're listening to jordan peterson you're unsavable
>yes
>yes
>yes
>yes
>no
Its so epic guys, I don't get sad or depressed about anything.
>jordan crabson
how about no, the debate with zizek showed the world what he really is, a fraud lmao
Based Marxman sniping the fraud
It really depends on the age you were when you changed and how much time you lived as a disaster
3:16 for the timestamp. Amazing what a 10 second google search can do.
Either way, Jordan Peterson gives a lot of good advice, but other times the dude is a fucking retard.
He never said that. You're retarded.
quora.com
Let me guess this nigger has a patreon or something?
Literally just shilling for stupid people's desperation.
see
You're a retard he never says that
>you are basically unsavable
>iterally telling you you are fucked.
He says... "almost impossible"
>If the answer to all or even most of these questions is "no," then you are not so much existentially desperate as you are lacking those elements that are necessary to standard human life. You should then plan to change your situation so that "yes" becomes the appropriate answer.
So you're wrong.
this. fuckin lobsters
zizek didn't expose jordan as a fraud. he basically just said woah there buddy after jordan did his whole "lobster hierarchy chaos people are insane animals" shtick and explained why it's not the be all end all of humanity and that hes taking it too seriously.
>no job
no but I'm in school
>no friends
I have some that I hang out with every once in a while, never had a deep conversation or anything in my life but at least being around people keeps me from going crazy
>no intimate relationships
correct, never even gotten close to having a gf. as far as I know, no female has ever been interested in me
>alcohol or drug problem
I'm not addicted to any one drug in particular but I use drugs so often that I think it's safe to say I'm addicted to drugs in general
>depressed
yes, extremely. so much so that I've actually started physically suffering from it. sometimes I just lie around doing nothing all day because depression has literally drained all of my motivation.
So get a job
I love listening to Internet Dad
>jordan peterson said that
He's also widely misquoted, so I'm going to need to see a source on that.
Peterson tried to criticize Marxism in front of Zizek when (self-admittedly) the only thing of his he's ever read is the Communist Manifesto. It's not so much Zizek's doing as it is Peterson exposing himself as a pompous retard.
all of this except a drug problem
>no intimate relationships
>depressed
and let me guess: only salvation is "have sex :)"
Not the guy you replied to but i just want you to know that you hurt my feeling when you said that you bastard now apologize
I went from 4 of those to just 2 and I'm on an upward trajectory. Peterson's full of shit. Also source.
>53065002
TAKE YOUR CATTLE PILLS GOY. SOCIETY SAYS TO DO IT SO FUCKING DO IT.
Kek yeah that diet
>no friends
Yep
>no intimate relationships
I've had no sexual relations at all, nor any girlfriends. I've a good relationship with my parents, if that counts
>alcohol or drug problem
I drink most weekends. I don't drink every day, nor do I drink a 1.5 litre bottle every session. Binge drinking, I guess it is
>[ ] no job
>[x] no friends
>[x] no intimate relationships
>[ ] alcohol or drug problem
>[x] depressed
I guess I cannot be saved, whatever that means
I stopped being a faggot at 22 after living my whole life as a loser.
T. Flounder
order online retard
jordan peterson is a cuck
JP has good ideas, but like any Soft Science fag, they tend to get cocky and say dumb shit.
no shit? peterson is just a fluffy airhead repeating the same shitty self help crap that tony robbins has been selling for years, all peterson is doing is adding some abstract retarded version of christianity into the mix to trick you into becoming a christcuck.
have job
some friends (but I never feel like I really fit in)
no intimate relationships
substance abuser
depressed
fuck I almost made it
>Taking psychology seriously
lol no
Save me from what? Not being a low T wageslave?
Well JP is a charlatan so you're in luck OP
I have the opposite problem. I have a drug problem because I self-medicate for social anxiety.
>>no job
I'm freelance, does that count?
>>no friends
I don't really have close friends but I have people I can get together to do things with
>>no intimate relationships
NOPE!
>>alcohol or drug problem
Used to be a meth addict lol, however I'm
clean now and don't drink. If vaping counts, though, I tick this box.
>>depressed
Lol yes
... IDK man I arguably tick some of these boxes. I think my freelance work would count as a job if you asked Peterson, he might even say it's a positive entrepreneurial thing. Also I'd say overall that I have some semblence of a social life although it's really lame. But you can get me to 3 by counting past drug addictions that I could easily relapse into if I were in the wrong city; I certainly tick the no relationships and depressed boxes. But personally I don't feel like a lost cause. I'll say this though if I lose my main current freelance contract that I'm counting on for 80% of my income that would be some crisis-tier shit.
fuck off of this board normal scum
He said almost impossible and this situation is talking about someone in their 30s and its absolutely true you have lost so much time and opportunity by then that its very impressive to see someone get out of that
Damn I'm 22 now and I'm re-thinking my life right now. Actually making an effort at getting Jow Forums and planning to get back to college this next semester. Care to give me some tips on how you found the motivation to change your situation?
it's in the video that posted, ironically enough.
What do I win for hitting all five?
>no job
Yes
>no friends
Yes
>no intimate relationships
Yes
>alcohol or drug problem
No
>depressed
I don't know
Jordan Peterson is a spastic
Same, if I was smart enough to get drugs I'd probably be an addict on the streets
i mean that just depends on how liberally he's using the word "almost", if you're liberal enough then 51% is almost 100%. It really doesn't mean much besides, "if you have 3 or more of these things then it's going to be hard to turn your life around" no shit sherlock, did you think that having all those issues was going to be easy to solve?
If you're hopelessly depressed and nothing else is working, as he says in that brief clip, you have little other option, and medication might help so why reject it over presupposed views? That's hardly the content of the video, or his advice, or most psychologist's advice, but if you lack the faculties to solve your issues through your own willpower, then why would you not try something which has a good chance of success?
>>no job
Got one this year.
>>no friends
Check, for a decade at that.
>>no intimate relationships
Check, lifetime.
>>alcohol or drug problem
Does chainsmoking 1-2 packs a day count?
>>depressed
I don't like nor self identify as one but I guess I am?
jordan peterson also thinks that only eating beef is a good idea and that women are serpents of chaos.
who fucking cares
Don't trust the guy he just wants your money and thinks that women are going to destroy western civilization with their bean and their makeup.
>letting your life be dictated by anyone but yourself, let alone some fucking pseudo-experts, who all say that they can't do shit for you unless you, yourself, want to change.
The only way anyone from the psychology field could dictate your life is if they stuck a steel rod through your skull orbit and into the frontal lobe of your brain.
Please Allah, do not let me tumble down into smoking addiction like this miserable man. 1-3 a day keeps the cancer at bay.
>no job
I have a good job, and decent prospects for getting a better one.
>no friends
Pretty much, but I have had male friends in the past.
>no intimate relationships
This is a really tough one. If you're a loser, no woman will want to associate with you, let alone actually be intimate with you.
>alcohol or drug problem
Nope
>depressed
I've never talked to a doctor about it, but I often feel lonely and helpless to improve my situation, does that count?
>One of the foremost authoritys in psychology
Just because he's the most famous, doesn't make him one of the best. However, he might be right in this case. I don't know if I'll ever learn to be an acceptable person, even though I really want to be. It's hard when nobody but my parents ever seems to care about me at all. Since I am both ugly and autistic, I often wonder if I was just destined to be loser from birth. It seems like there is no escape.
If it makes you feel better user it's more psychological than anything, I wouldn't be able to quit but sometimes my job forces me to cut down to 5-10 fags a day and I function just fine. If you don't want to it won't get that bad for you, don't worry.
Whelp JP is a fucking hack because I've had 4 of those and managed to somewhat recover (though I'll never have a relationship and I know how weird that is so I know people will treat me differently because of that)
JP is a fucking hack because he sits there and pretends that his fanbase isn't frothing at the mouth to lynch kikes in exchange for (((mainstream))) success. On this point he's kinda right, though, you CAN recover but it most cases the third thing will be the kiss of death.
everyone on this website is normalscum. the real robots left a long time ago
>but it most cases the third thing will be the kiss of death.
It really is that bad isnt it, whats the age cutoff for having an intimate relationship of any sort?
Jordan Peterson is a postmodernist hack. Why the fuck should I listen to him?
Not him but I'm 32, I feel like that point was passed long ago. Women will go on and on about how they don't care if you haven't had experience, but they can sniff out a social loser and will always reject them even if they don't know why. You have to be socially successful before they will even consider you, unless you're physically attractive.It's hard to become socially successful when everyone rejects you though. It's similar to people who have been NEETS for a long time and therefore can't find work, but I've avoided that at least.
If u have a gf u prolly arent ugly. Or have a huge dick
It's less that women have some arbitrary standard for when you're supposed to lose your v-card, and more that attractive men are expected to behave in a certain way, send certain signals, and have certain personality traits. If you read through that list and wondered what those behaviors, signals, and traits are, it's too late for you, no matter how attractive you are.
Oh fuck. Do you think its the same for friendship between males? Im ok not having an intimate relationship with a woman not because im gay or anything of the sort but because I can pay to nut inside one or wife a poorer one. What makes me afraid is the total loss of capacity for human connection.
>>no job
nope
>>no friends
basically nope
>>no intimate relationships
got this
>>alcohol or drug problem
lolol this is my default
>>depressed
this and a handful of other brain problems
I am unable to get off this ride.
Yes of course, it's the same for every aspect of life.
That's not wat he said
Women unconsciously enforce a very strict personality gender role for straight men. If you're not able to be confident, outgoing, fun, and flirty with strangers then you are fucked unless you're very physically attractive. No other group is forced into such a narrow band of acceptable behavior. Of course, men are privileged in other ways, mostly financial and career related. But even with all of that, everything feels empty as fuck and totally pointless with no-one to share it with.
It's similar, yes. But not quite as bad. I think it's required that you do this first and make a social life for yourself before you ask a woman out, or you will be auto-rejected for being a loser.
>men are privileged in other ways, mostly financial and career related.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>no friends
yup
>no intimate relationships
yup
>alcohol or drug problem
yup just got cracked by the police for alcohol
>depressed
yup
Nice to know I at least have a wagie job... makes things so much better... yeah, fucking right.
>Women unconsciously enforce a very strict personality gender role for straight men.
Our whole society enforces it. Even Jow Forums, the supposed refuge for losers and failures, will happily eviscerate you for not meeting their standard of "manly." If men who did meet that standard suddenly decided they were willing to accept men who didn't, women would follow suit.
>I am all of these things and I'm only getting worse
>If men who did meet that standard suddenly decided they were willing to accept men who didn't, women would follow suit.
It might help slightly, but I doubt it would be significant. Maybe if it trended that way for many generations after we're all dead, it could lead somewhere better. For now, I don't believe people can choose what they're attracted to, it just is what it is and we deal with it or die trying.
>all 5
hell yeah
me 3 months ago:
>no job
check (but im going to uni)
>no friends
unchecked
>no intimate relationships
unchecked
>alcohol or drug problem
unchecked
>depressed
unchecked
me now:
>no job
check, neet
>no friends
check
>no intimate relationships
check
>alcohol or drug problem
unchecked
>depressed
check
its almost funny
It only gets worse, user. Things get much worse after uni.
imagine listening to juden peterstein
HUHUHU make your bed, hahaha guys he is father figure amirite, i need someone at 30 to tell me to clean my fucking dick and eat breakfast GET REAL
I could be burning in hell right now and not even know the difference
It's not those things that make you unsalvageable, dummy. It's that the maladaptive behavior that leads you to those things is what is unsalvageable. If you continue to hold mindsets and behaviors that cause you to reach those states, then you'll only ever get worse.
>no job
I wouldn't consider being a celebrity a job
>no friends
I dont kno Jordan's social life
>alchohol or drug problem
He likes his anti depression pills
>depressed
He suffers from depression, just because you eat mind altering pills doesn't mean you dont have depression anymore
Juden peterstine is a hack that is "do what I say and not as I do"
Same here but I do have many meaningful relationships, but still no GF
You really dont have to be diagnosed with depression. It's part of the human emotional palette. You know if you're depressed, no "doctor" with a scribbley pen is going to know what YOU are. Unless they are in the medical feild.
Therapists listen to you talk for an hour, take 500 dollars from you than Google your symptoms then give you your diagnosis
Wtf Amazon is cooler than I thought
Not Amazon you nigger.
If you arnt a total fuck up you can legally buy mushroom spores and grow them. Unless u live in Alabama or Idaho or something
Growing them is illegal though, unless u live in Colorado
i kind of dropped out actually
its free here so i decide how many subjects i do per semester, this semester i was doing 4 and dropped out of 3, at this pace i'll get the degree in 2040