Would you like to move to a different country, Jow Forums?

Would you like to move to a different country, Jow Forums?

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yes. russia. it's a glorious lawless wasteland.

no

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ye

No lol

i wanna live where the grass is green and the girls are pretty

yes or differnt state
but not now
maybe in 7 or more years

probably japan if I can be there without being in their economic system

Well, Russia is complicated. Its very different depending on the region.
Where would you like to move?
Japanese society is hard to integrate into. Yet, its pretty interesting to visit.
Why and where?

No and I doubt I would ever want to

>Where would you like to move
Texas, California, Belize or somewhere in Latin America

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Not yet

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who this blue bitch and why she so sexy? like damn

No, I want to work for DoD contractors.

meh i like it here

Sounds nice. Guess either Chile or Argentina could be a really good place to consider moving to.
Understandable, Denmark seems like a wonderful place to live in.
That's Lapis Lazuli, user

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Hot, the nose makes it better

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Yee beurocracy is cancer

it is everywhere though

Well, with certain exceptions, yet these places are hardly better than those with too much beurocracy.

A liberated Palestine and war-free Syria seem nice.
Pic-related is taken from Syria.

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I want to live in the US.

God bless the people living there, and may He provide them with eternal peace soon.

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Wow, can't believe that is Syria. Palestine sounds like a pretty boring place to live in. Not much infrastructure, no job opportunities etc.

The Gaza strip is just one big Israeli prison, water and power are cut off from Israel and they're pretty much trapped

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Lapisposter, there's a very obvious reason why they don't have much infrastructure and no job opportunities.

Japan, for the love of god Japan

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Yeah, I'm quite aware of it. Yet, its just a fact, life there isn't easy and Palestine will take decades to recover if they manage to win their freedom.

It took your country just a couple of decades to go from a land where literally nothing functioned into a superpower that sent a man to space, and that's has been done initially with outdated technology and through the most destructive war in history. This was also done while surrounded and sanctioned by hostiles.
The Palestinian people will be able to regain their freedom, and they'll be able to rebuild their homeland. They're surrounded by their brethren, at least.

Well, for Russia it came at a great price. Freedom was sacrificed, lives were sacrificed. I really hope Palestinians can regain their country though. Its a shame to see Palestinians in the state they are today. At least other Middle Eastern countries are providing them aid.

Yee i hate long lĂ­nes

Nice taste my nigger

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Shouldn't have criticised the soviets in the presence of saudiburger

Saved!
Well, I mean, they weren't flawless, right?

Definitely not but he/she/it/zir doesn't want to hear that. As long as your don't mention Stalin you'll be alright

I'm tired of repeating my arguments a million times, I'll just keep it shorter.
Freedom wasn't sacrificed, you were given more freedom and liberty. Lenin and his party abolished all of the Tsar's repressive rules, and amongst them was a law that shunned and executed homosexuals.
You don't have to like the Soviets, but you must respect them. They protected your generation from growing up under fascism.

I have no pronouns. Please refer to me as " " or " ".

ok then / doesn't like you criticising Stalin

They can criticize Stalin if it's fair and not propaganda-tier, like, as in claiming he literally ate all the grains and bribed the clouds not to rain.

I never said I didn't respect them. There can be different views on their methods, but they did accomplish a lot and managed to raise the economy to the whole new level. However, it would be a lie to say freedom wasn't sacrificed. At the very least there was an iron curtain to keep people from leaving the country.

the gulags were probably a bad idea, fight me.

Yes dunno where though
I was thinking maybe japan but then i would have to learn Japanese and be vulnerable to earthquakes plus japs no like gaijin and the only job there is a English teacher

No. I kinda feel like every other place is more poisonous/haunted/radioactive ect then the land I live on.
I don't even like going too far from the valley I live over.

The iron curtain existed because of America using Western Germany as a satellite nation.
Stalin suggested and campaigned for Germany to be a sovereign neutral nation, but the UK and USA kept doing enough shady shit that the wall got erected in Berlin.
Then again, the majority of East Germans miss the quality of life they used to have. They hate the neoliberalism they're existing in now.

Gulags were used to house fascists and grain-burning/livestock-killing kulaks that caused the famine.

No, I don't mean the Berlin wall, just mean the iron curtain in general. People didn't have much opportunity to leave, they were forced to stay and if they somehow managed to immigrate, they were blackmailed with their relatives held hostage to force them back.

Kulaks wouldn't have burned their grain and killed their livestock if the transition of power had been handled better and they weren't in fear of arrest and asset-seizing for being a bit richer.

You can blame most of that on the revisionist Dictatorship of the Proletariat that came in after Stalin for that.
They shunned Stalin, reduced Lenin into a romanticized hero while labeling his ideas as outdated, and moved on with their revisionist regressive ideals as they became more state capitalist and nationalist.

Read this. Stalin was too lenient with them, actually.

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I wasn't talking about Stalin per se, but about the whole USSR and their history. A lot was accomplished out of practically nothing, yet a lot was sacrificed for that. Everything comes at a price.

I'm not arguing that the actions of the Kulaks didn't cause the famines but I am saying that it could've been handled in a way that would've avoided that. Stalin was a very paranoid man and that influenced greatly his actions.

I thought about it, maybe some small country in southeast asia. But I dont think I can be happy without the things I learned to love in here.

Pretty much the same here. I absolutely love a lot of places in Europe, yet I am not sure if I will be able to abandon Russia altogether.

Still, this shows that Marxism-Leninism is an amazing and trustworthy ideology, but I'm leaning towards Marxism-Luxemburgism since it's revolutionary Democratic Socialism with Leninist characteristics.

I personally think that's the best method we have at establishing a truly free and equal society. The revolutionary aspect destroys the repressive capitalist government and corporations, which is what all leftists want. The democratic aspect gives an equal platform for all leftist parties to give their 2-cents and maturely debate, basically how Congress functions but without any lobbying. The Leninist characteristics help plan the seizure of the means of production and redistribution of wealth effectively like in the Soviet Union, which satisfies tankies, all while giving individual liberties to each worker, which satisfies left-libertarians.

>Stalin was a very paranoid man and that influenced greatly his actions.
You're eating up fascist propaganda.
If he really was paranoid, he wouldn't have been lenient about the multiple times he suggested collectivization. He only took action once it became a serious problem and the grain-hoarders refused to comply.

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I find Argentina not intersting and boring
Chile maybe tho

Chilean wine and fruit are amazing.

im a Teetotalist

I was actually thinking about reading The Capital. Wonder if its worth the effort.
They both are fairly safe to live in. And both produce fantastic wines.

Start with the manifesto first, then you can read Capital.

he was paranoid in the way he invaded Finland. Although maybe you're right considering how much he trusted Hitler.
He was an authoritarian, which is why I can never be a Marxist-Leninist, you seem to think the same considering your alignment with Luxembourgism, which I've been meaning to discuss with you.

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responding your question, definitely an irrelevant first world country like, idk, Iceland, New Zealand, Andorra, Luxembourg, you know like those kinda places

you know / is doing it to fuck with you, why do you encourage this meme?

I suppose that's an easier start.

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oh my god, not again.
I'm leaving the thread because I can't fucking deal with this thirst at all.

Understand that Finland was ruled by nationalists (and it still is), and they were allied with nazi germany. Had the Soviets not captured that territory from them, the Nazis would've entered through Finland and attack Leningrad from behind.
If they did that, the city would've been bombed from both sides instead of just west.

Anyway, talk about it with me later, bye.

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pls do you know where saudiburger is? I want to find " and make many happy kids with "

please please please I want to make you my gf(male)

Stalin trusted Hitler at the time of his invasion of the Finns. The Finns support of the Nazis had a lot to do with their invasion (and they did occupy Russian lands anyway, the just got didn't get into the war officially)

Well, they are nice places to live in, but a bit boring. Like, there is literally nothing to do in Iceland.
See ya, Saudi user!

Reading some of the responses on this thread have made me want to blow my brains out
and move to hell

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>I can't fucking deal with this thirst at all.
/ is a girl

My ideal place to live is a vibrant city with culture and people but also high civil liberties. Preferably reasonably cheap and low crime rate too. Somewhere Dutch and New York or LA are major choices but prices are high.

Reasonable

It's SaudiBURGER you sexist fuck, and Saudiburger is referred with a "
Why didnn't you keep being the USSR? Things would be better

what motivates you to do this

No. I'd rather try to change the state/country that I'm in and make it a better place.

I love saudiburger and want " to be happy with me, " just doesn't understand how much happier " would be with me

haha good luck

Y move 2 nu country when u cn mak nu cuntry?

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If you are looking for a striking city with lots of liberties, I think something like Amsterdam, Copenhagen, London or Avignon might be great for you. Actually, there are tons of places like that in Europe, big and small ones.

What would you like to change about your country/state?

London is pretty nice (despite what Jow Forums might have you think) but it's too expensive, it's just unreasonable. Europe is a good place for nice cities like that. Amsterdam is a good choice but I'm not sure about house prices, probably better than London. I think LA is fairly cheap in areas but also those are the shit ones. New York is too expensive.

Also I'd try to avoid somewhere too cold, I'm too skinny for cold weather.

denmark

Yeah, I've been to London numerous times and I absolutely love it. The way how busy it is reminds me of Moscow.
If capitols are a bit too expensive for you, there is always an array of provincial cities, that are just as nice. Check Belgium, for example... each city/town is a masterpiece. Same goes for France, Austria, Italy...

Make my state less like Russia. Make my country more like European countries without the nationalism.

Absolutely.

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I've been to Ypres. That was pretty nice. I want somewhere with a pretty young population, I want to be able to do e and pass out in a mcdonalds bathroom and not get dirty looks from old women. I'd like to live in London, I was born there too, but the only cheap places are the bits with all the stabbings. Benalux is probably my second choice so when I move out and make a bit of money I might consider somewhere like that.

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That would be great! Wish you luck.
Why and where exactly?

Unfortunately that's never gonna happen.

Exactly, that's what I want, a boring place where nothing happens and you can have a quiet modest life.

no i think its alright here

Yes, somewhere in north Europe, Australia is a shitty crisp of a country which is only getting shittier and crispier.

Than Iceland is just perfect for you. Its seems like time has no power of the place. I kinda love it though.
Why? I'm sure you can do it.

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Australia can't be that bad. It's pretty disconnected from political issues and rich.

Is it really that bad in Australia? I mean, yeah, the nature wants to kill you, but still...