Women don't want to be objectified by men

>women don't want to be objectified by men
>women's shirts are specially designed to have a giant titty window to show off their cleavage

If you explain this to me I will unironically stop being a misogynist

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It makes no sense to most men, but I beleive for women, they beleive they are empowered when they can be sexy whenever they want, however, they dont want unwanted or creepy guys checking them out. They're fine with Chads objectifying them because they're obviously good looking and fuckable and because it's a major turn on when a Chad does it because nature.

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>dresses like a slut
>don't look at my ass or tits or...
Just put the burka on already or don't go in public like that if you don't want people to look.

a small ammount of girls told me they dress that way becuase they like it and their own bodies, not for men to look or be atracted
females were a mistake

The average height of women is lower than that of men, so when women go out shopping together the amount of cleavage visible appears less than it does to the (on average) taller men. Even non-lowcut shirts that are slightly loose can easily show a titty if the guy is tall enough and the girl is short enough.

Also, you think women are designing these shirts for other women? Men are designing them for profit, and profit alone. Sex sells. The (desired) male attention from lower cut shirts incentivizes women to by more of them, risking some undesired attention in the meantime. This creates a positive feedback loop that keeps the fashion industry fat and happy. Given enough time, especially in a country already fairly devoid of a cohesive cultural identity, this ongoing money cycle will create a subsect of the consumerist culture in which increasingly scampy clothes is not only normal, or even encouraged, but expected. Women born several generations into this cycle are fucked, taking on the social debt accrued by their predecessors, in the same way men do with other aspects of fashion and society at large. It's all, 100%, completely, always about money.

Thats my late night effort post for ya

the titty window is only for chad. women basically want to have their cake and eat it too in terms of getting power from objectifying themselves, but also not having any of the downsides of that.

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Nah.
Vaginas want attention from chad
Showing flesh is a good way to get attention from everyone.
Vaginas don't want attention from non-chads and so they get triggered.

my gift for you OP

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YOU'RE GOING IN THE PUBLIC SPACE YOU DUMB SLUT FIDGETING CHAD B8TING TRICKING WHORE

That's called justification and/or denial
>nu'uh I don't dress is a provocative way to provoke. I dress provocative for myself (even though on the days I stay in by myself I throw my hair up in a messy bun and put a ratty old t-shirt and sweatpants)

Dressing rooms often have mirrors to see how an outfit looks from multiple angles.
Do not kid yourself. They know exactly what they're showing

men will still objectify a woman with big tits even if she's wearing a baggy turtleneck. they can't control themselves

no, believe it or not one of them was a close friend that even in some cases told me how she sucked some guy and ate the cum or made a threesome etc
so i really believe what she told me, she wouldnt have minded telling me she dress that way for men to see her
what

>""how to fake your cleavage""
>I'm totally not doing it for attention!

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>what
I was adding a comment wasn't talking to you

If the shirts were designed to be titty accessible for heights they would be designed differently

It is easy to explain. They are children. Children want attention but if you ask if they want attention they say no. They are embarrassed that they want the attention so they will say no. But they do want it.

Same as how children will yell I hate you at the parent they really want to love them.

Fuck yeah big tits in a knit turtleneck sweater, especially if she has glasses and her hair in a bun, thats S-tier shit

There is still an odd distinction between your examples.
What you just mentioned are things that the modern western females takes pride in. The "free and liberated" nonsense.
But for a modern western female it's nigh impossible to admit they use their appearance to get men's attention. Doesn't make the most sense but thays how fucked up things actually are

Wish I knew what you were on because this weed I have doesn't seem to compare to what you're smoking

would you dress attractively because you want gay men to flirt with you?

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CHECK OUT WOMEN WITHOUT ASKING THEM FIRST!
T-that is a sexual assault!

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If a gay man flirted with you and you rejected them rudely feminists would call you a monster. But if they dress up and you flirt with them and you were not their target they are ok rejecting you any way they like and calling you a creep.

>Girl (male) reporting
>I do not want to be objectified by men
>I do want attention
>but I like attention
>when I wear something revealing I want to be seen in it
>positive attention makes me feel much sexier than just dressing sexy alone
>i still don't really want attention but since attention makes me feel good I seek it out, often against my better judgement and sometimes without even realizing it
For what it's worth

The individual woman had no control over the clothing industry (see complaints about pockets) but she's still expected to follow the standards and adhere to it to be considered professional. Most clothing does not fit disproportionally busty women so they "show off" even more.

They only want chad to look at them

People ITT are all very confident that women all know exactly what they want and are playing games. In fact women have no idea what they want.

In their head wearing the shirt with the titty window worked out differently than the reality where a 300lb cheeto encrusted r9k user started starting at their tits for 8 minutes straight.

The polite thing to do is approach the woman and ask her if you are attractive enough to check her out or not. Consent is important. Do not look anywhere but her head until you have consent.

I can walk into pretty much any store and find a number of tops (and bottoms / dresses), many of which are cute, that don't show excessive skin or even curves.
I even buy such clothing regularly.
I still buy the sexy stuff though.
Can't lie that I do on fact like the attention it gets me

You can't lie here anonymously but I bet you can lie if a creepy guy asks if you want attention.

I'm 5"2, 45kg. I can't find any clothing in any clothing stores that is considered work appropriate (for an office) that isn't tucked to my body shape, sheer or transparent (especially shirts) or shows a lot more skin than I would ever naturally be comfortable in. I don't even have big tits to create the unnatural boob window in shirts and yet they still do it sometimes.

Obviously
If any guy were to ask me in public I would likely murmur a "no" and scurry off like a scared rabbit

that's kind of qt

Where are you shopping?
It sounds like you're hopping teeny mall stores?

New Look, Next, Primark, Zara, River Island are the ones on my highstreet iirc. Asda, Tesco and Matalan's shirts are all sheer and shaped, which means I tend to go there for my work pants and nothing else.

>asda
Gonna have to be a matter of location. Going to require a little creativity on your part. Still possible to dress modestly when given immodest options.

This is why I shop in the mens section. Womens shirts are cut retarded.

Also can we talk about how retarded crop tops are? Do women these days actually not want the bottom half? They do this to everything including sweatshirts. And its never the fit ones who shop like this either.

Yes but it's exceptionally difficult, especially if you don't have the money to buy the more expensive, actually-covering-you-clothing. It's very telling you only responded to one clothing shop there, btw

Doesn't work for petite women, boys school shirts are fairly identifiable

You can have mixed feelings about things. Think of it like post-fap regret. They like the attention, but they don't like knowing that they're being objectified, especially by weird dudes.
>but it's comfortable, teehee

Didn't consider that asda is the first on your list which clearly identifies that you are not in the same country as me since each other retailer you listet has locations here?
Nah.
Stupid cunt.

And you believe that?
Oreganoielao

>If you explain this to me I will unironically stop being a misogynist
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