NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TRANSITION!!!!!

>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TRANSITION!!!!!
>YOU'RE RUINING YOUR BODY!!!!!
>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR TRANS MENTAL HEALTH ONLY COME FROM TRANSITION?!!!!

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I don't even understand this meme anymore

Why do you assume transphobes want the best outcomes for trans mental health? They want you to shut up, fall in line and get back in the closet. They're status quo collectivist moralfags and can't be reasoned with.

>N-NO IM OBVIOUSLY A SHE F-Fu FUCKING TRANSPHOBE
trannies are honestly somehow worse than weebposters

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>transition
>trans

these words do not mean anything. Like your existence, they are meaningless. KYS

>collectivist

>Steals my money to get Medicaid to pay for their disfigurement, and/or
>Gets that worthless nigger Obama to impose community rating on insurance premiums, so they can steal my money that way
>Calls me a collectivist

Fuck you, tranny.

I was completely indifferent to you playing dress-up and getting yourself mutilated when it was elective, cosmetic surgery not covered by Medicaid and not covered by standard health insurance. You just fucking HAD to go make it my problem, though...so now fuck you, I hate you and await your inevitable suicide.

>NO NO NO NO NO!!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST CHOP OFF YOUR DICK, PUMP YOURSELF WITH ESTROGEN, WEAR WOMEN'S CLOTHES, AND PICK UP THE MANNERISMS OF FICTIONAL WOMEN FROM JAPANESE CARTOONS!!!!!! NOOOOOO!!!! NO NO NO STOP FUCKING STOP!!!!! YOU CAN'T DO THAT!!!!!!

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All racists are collectivists. Good work showing your hand right away.

>N-NOO STOP M-MISGENDERING ME I'M JUST LIKE ONE OF THOSE ANIME KAWAII GIRLS
the absolute of w*stoids

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The best outcome for "trans mental health" is to have their father beat the shit out of them to make them stop watching sissy fag porn and then get a job. Boom, functional human being.

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>All racists are collectivists.

I called Obama a nigger because there's no other way to show him less respect. You fucking trannies worship him, so I wanted to express my contempt.

I have no concern for "the white race" whatsoever. Plural nouns don't actually exist, dawg. As you well know.

Far, far worse. Like it's not even fucking comparable.

If it actually makes youlook like the opposite gender, then sure. But for 90% of people it makes them look like a disgusting androgynous ogre, then they just want to die even more.

cunnyposters near their degeneracy but their baiting usually

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>noooo I am a woman!!!! I can have boobs so I can grope myself because I can't grope girls!!!

Are you that crazy tranny from the gaslighting thread?

the transphobes that claim to only want the best for people are cringey
at least they ones who admit they don't care about the wellbeing of trannies and just want to see people they don't like commit suicide are honest

>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR TRANS MENTAL HEALTH ONLY COME FROM TRANSITION
Lol on what planet is this true?

>Lol on what planet is this true?
what makes you think it's not? the 40% statistic isn't from people who have started transition, it's anyone with gender dysphoria whether they've started transition or not. trans mental condition improves after starting hrt

All the difference is between those who merely get off to the idea of being the opposite sex or dress as the opposite sex and those whose mental illness has deluded them into believing they genuinely are the opposite sex. No matter how much you do to your body or how much your scream about how you definitely are a girl, you won't ever be one because you aren't a girl, and encouraging such behaviour is abuse.

It's because they're mentally ill not from dysphoria and society tells them it's ok. Back in the day there wasnt tranny suicides because society didnt endorse it

Because starting hrt satisfying the delusion that you are becoming what you think you are, instead of treating the mental illness like what it is: something to be cured not encouraged.

>reinforcing a delusion with chemical alterations to a person body is good.

It's their life, they are free to do with it as they wish.

whether trannies are mentally ill or not, that doesn't change the fact that they're happier after transition
okay, so how would you treat it then? you people always go off the speculation of "well if we just did it the opposite way I'm sure it would work better" but often times the methods you propose are either completely unfounded or have been tried but failed, like using testosterone replacement. trannies weren't normal back in the day so you'd think if there was a cure, they would have used it to get cure all trannies before there was a chance for a culture to form that could label things "transphobic"

NOT LISTENINT NOT LISTENING I'M A GIRL A CUTE GIRL LOOK I'M ANIME GIRL CUTE GIRL NOT LISTENING BIGOT CIS SCUM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
kek

dude lmao just stop thinking fantasy
it's literally impossible
how old are you? you are an adult believing in something impossible like the moster under the bed

it's that simple

I like how white males, who kill themselves the most, are so pretend concerned with tranny suicide.

yeah this doesn't work sweetie, people who look like $0yjack love transfaggots. Normal people think trannies are mentally ill subhumans who should all be electroshocked.

>"well if we just did it the opposite way I'm sure it would work better"
Who says this? I wouldn't want to use drugs to redress the balance. It's a psychological disorder that needs to be solved through psychotherapy.
>trannies weren't normal back in the day so you'd think if there was a cure, they would have used it to get cure all trannies
Public shaming normally did the job back in the day because being a tranny wasn't encouraged like it is today. It's like you have no idea how active political forces (in this case subversive social liberalism from cultural Marxists with intent to destabilise and undermine traditional social values) lead to cultural and societal shifts.

>tfw ywn be pretty or passable

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Have you guys listened to Kanye West's my beautiful dark twisted fantasy it's a pretty good album I'd recommend for sure

>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR TRANS MENTAL HEALTH ONLY COME FROM TRANSITION?!!!!

Wrong, it comes from suicide

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You're on a board full of mentally ill people. That doesn't work as an insult here.

>Who says this? I wouldn't want to use drugs to redress the balance. It's a psychological disorder that needs to be solved through psychotherapy.
I didn't just mean with drugs, I meant any treatment in the opposite direction. you really think no tranny has ever tried to just get talked out of their problems by a therapist? again, that's how it would have been done the majority of the time in the past, yet patients weren't successfully treated with it. again, a lot of this seems to just be on speculation and the assumption that your ideas haven't been tried already.

1. You're the one speculating that it doesn't work. Ever since trannies have been in the public eye, there has been talk of surgery and medical treatment to get them to change since the 30s at least
2. You still ignore that there has been and is ever-intensifying active political encouragement for trannies to go through medical procedures to "become" the opposite sex and these political forces exist in the medical, political, legal, and educational professions who seek to gain from this, most of whom purely for carrying out their political agenda which I've already described

google conversion therapy
it has been proven to not work

>You're the one speculating that it doesn't work
it's been tried you dumbass, there's no speculation here. you don't have some new revolutionary theory
>Ever since trannies have been in the public eye, there has been talk of surgery and medical treatment to get them to change since the 30s at least
yes but that wouldn't have been majorly accepted for a long time. even today, not all trannies jump straight to transition and instead try to just get rid of their gender dysphoria to avoid the social shame
>You still ignore that there has been and is ever-intensifying active political encouragement for trannies to go through medical procedures to "become" the opposite sex and these political forces exist in the medical, political, legal, and educational professions who seek to gain from this, most of whom purely for carrying out their political agenda which I've already described
yes, the only possible reason the entire medical community could have a different opinion than you is because of the jews
and as I said before, pro-trans stuff wasn't really promoted in a positive light until this millenium so if there was a cure for gender dysphoria that didn't involve transition, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T THEY USE IT THEN?

>ignores what I said again
It wouldn't be conversion therapy because you're not being converted. It wouldn't be about changing some one's sexual orientation. It would be about allowing the person to realise that they are not the gender they have deluded themselves into thinking they are.

i feel as if trannies feel like they're being funny and impactful by using our memes for their own purposes

fpbp

You're so politically naive you're not even worth bothering with.
>avoid the social shame
What shame? It is actively encouraged by the entire establishment
>and as I said before, pro-trans stuff wasn't really promoted in a positive light until this millenium
Lol okay. Glad your political knowledge of your own crusade only goes as far back as the millennium.

>you don't have some new revolutionary theory
Also I never said I did. I was pointing out the fact that mental illness cannot be cured by encouraging the patient's delusions.

Incels have a bitchy female sense of humor. Nobody is trying to steal that. Relax.

I would recommend professional mental help for all individuals suffering body dysmorphia. Especially when it has come to self harm. The key is to not let quack liberal doctors cut off bits of your body and feed you hormones while they collect insurance money creating minions of Satan.

>What shame? It is actively encouraged by the entire establishment
don't kid yourself, people in this thread have said it already; the average person thinks trannies are freaks. yeah they are portrayed positively in media, but walking around day to day, they aren't socially accepted
>Lol okay. Glad your political knowledge of your own crusade only goes as far back as the millennium.
I'm saying before this millennium, there was barely any pro-trans stuff in media dumbass, not that that's as far back as my knowledge goes.
>your own crusade
just to be clear, I'm not a tranny, it's not my crusade. I just legitimately am not convinced by your ideas and see you as nothing but an armchair psychologist. I simply have no reason to want to agree with you
>Also I never said I did. I was pointing out the fact that mental illness cannot be cured by encouraging the patient's delusions.
but you're acting like your ideas for treatment are some new, untried theory, when in reality they've been tried and have failed. go find me some studies showing that gender dysphoria can simply be talked away

MENTALLY ILL
Hdhdhshdh

Source? I imagine OP's claims are true because it's had to grasp how doctors would recommend transition and stuff otherwise, but I'm curious now and want hard numbers.

Do what you want, it's your life.

You are a mentally ill guy. That's just a fact. Why is it so hard to understand that we don't have go along with your delusions and weird body modification fetish?

I don't understand what the argument here is. yes, 40% of trannies kill themselves. but what are you proposing that will change that? I'm just saying let the 60% do what makes them happy. I don't get the point in attacking people that already suffer from a mental illness

The best outcome for trans health is suicide, hastily and with 0 hesitation

im a tranny (female to male not a sissy bitch) and i wish every single fucking day i wasn't like this, but i still contribute to society and i sure as fuck would punch a shemale in the jaw if i saw it in real life

based, once again proving that ftm>>>>>mtf

That is the newest bastardization of a word. Incel is now a meaningless term because of faggots like you. Thanks.

because males are superior to females in every way, what kind of fucking guy would want to be a girl?

>yeah they are portrayed positively in media
That's enough. That is social acceptance. How far else can you reasonably go?
>there was barely any pro-trans stuff in media dumbass
There was in media and social circles of those groups I mentioned earlier whose opinions are now the political establishment mainstream
>I simply have no reason to want to agree with you
Because you're likely politically invested in the crusade too
>but you're acting like your ideas for treatment are some new, untried theory
Despite me never claiming this
>go find me some studies showing that gender dysphoria can simply be talked away
You're denying scientific progress by arguing that because one way is the established order it must be the correct way to do things. I'm not a psychologist nor have no studies to hand that argue for what I am saying. I'm stating that logic dictates that encouraging mental delusion cannot cure mental illness. It's like encouraging a psychotic who hears murderous voices to listen and carry out his inner voices wishes.

Most of us don't care either way. We just don't like you constantly invading our lives with your attentionwhoring.

Kys, don't kys, I don't care. But go in the same bathroom as my daughter? No. Force me to call you by your madeup meme words? No. Pumping kids full of permanent damage causing chemicals? No. Fuck you, you bipolar attentionwhoring schizo freaks.

Pussies. Djjdjejjd

if I ever decide to kill myself , I'll make sure to take as many of you tranny faggots with me

at least there are some attractive and passing ftms, i've never seen a sissy that passed and looked decent.

you keep doing keyspams like a fag would who are you.. keith

I know there are people who feel the need to care about things that aren't their business but to people who are actually trans and have to deal with this along with confusing feelings of not being the gender you feel, I love you. Hope you can get over the opinions of garbage people enjoy yourself.

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Who the fuck is Keith? Also, no u.

Wow, you're so cool and progressive user! You are a GOOD person. These other people are BAD people. If everyone in this country acted like you, society would be so much better! Make love not war is what I say!

Brainlet.

This
You are a virtue-signaling faggot.

lets dab on him fren

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my mine concern comes from how low the suicide stat is. it should be 100% not just 40%

yeah because cutting off your genital looks like a heatlhy fucking solution

Everyone getting upset over this is new around here. It has been a well-known fact since Jow Forums started that OP is, has been, and always will be a faggot.

I don't even understand this site anymore

japs kill themselves the most and theyre brown

i like how trannies and tranny enablers do anything they can to protect their feelings that can easily be crushed just by getting everyone to collectively point and laugh at retarded men trying to be women

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The argument is to not let anime and lgbtq shit corrupt their minds when they're young, no one is born gay, it's something that happens because of circumstances.
Same goes for trannies.
The world is so stuck on being 'accepting' of others that at this point they're going to try to make us accepting of child rapists and mass murderers

>so how would you treat it then?
even being addicted to illegal drugs is better than the current way of "treating" it.

I just want you to stop raiding this board

>>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR TRANS MENTAL HEALTH ONLY COME FROM TRANSITION?!!!!

>Trannies make up 30% of all suicides

Tbh i dont care if you take hormones. Just don't do that retarded, barbarous "sex reassignment surgery"

The cute feminine penis is half the fun

>best outcomes comes from transition
true, and that outcome is suicide.
pic related: what you will never be

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>BEST OUTCOMES
sure is.

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i don't give a shit dude, cut off your penis or whatever, just stop talking about it.

>NOOO! CROSSDRESSING ISN'T A FAGGOT HOBBY! IT'S ACTUALLY THE MOST HETEROSEXUAL THING YOU CAN DO! BLANCHE-FART SAID SO!

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K but the group that kills themselves the most is white males

Incels are an even bigger joke though. And in the West you can't stop whites from killing themselves.

>white males
30 in 100 000 is nowhere near 40 percent, fucking russian roulette has better odds (1 in 6) than being a tranny (3 in 6), i mean i don't really care if people kill themselves, it's their meat their choice what to do with it, but you are objectively wrong.

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>mfw niggers and spic can't commit suicide because they shoot each other and they don't live long enough to commit honorabru seppuku

You do you booboo, just get the fuck away from Jow Forums and take your schizophrenic meds.

>All racists are collectivists.
Muh individuality.

The 40% is attempts and not even based on statistics.

Trannies leave

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>attempts
and that's much better?
>not based on statistics
but you won't post real ones, because?

>No one is born gay
Wrong.
>Same goes for trannies
Agreed with this one. If a tranny doesn't become a tranny then he will end up being a regular gay man.

Ok go dialate yourself and post pics of your axe wound so we can all laugh at how depraved, disgusting and horrid you have become in some sort of vague effort to establish your existence.

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Jesus christ i love this frog.

Trannies and gays are both produced when a Jew rapes kids

why isnt there a tranny festival being shot up?

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! HOW CAN SOMEBODY FULL OF TESTOSTERONE FEEL LIKE THEYRE FULL OF ESTROGEN WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD BURN MOTHERFUCKERS BURN

you also need a higher IQ to be sentient enough to be self-aware and depressed

Why the FUCK aren't anti-psychotics prescribed to people with gender dysphoria? It's basically schizophrenia. They're at least effective against the feeling that they must mutilate their genitals.

>N-NOOOO YOU CAN'T FIND ALTERNATIVE METHODS FOR TREATING GENDER DYSPHORIA
>I LIKE DOING INVASIVE SURGERY AND FIND PRIDE IN FORCIBLY CHANGING MY HORMONE PROFILE
>T-TAKE THAT TRANSPHOBES

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>be me
>have fren for entire life
>do regular boy stuff shoot bb guns, steal parents beer, vidya together etc
>one day friend wakes up and tells me woman now and raging commie
>no longer fren
>why you take my fren god? he was cool
>mfw

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Nope, trannies are a modern invention while homosexuality is a natural deviation from what is naturally normal (heterosexuality).

Go ahead and ruin your body. No one gives a fuck.