The queen is dead is the only smiths album that really captures my feel right now, the best song of the whole album...

I think that song was meant to be about class struggle and the "bigger" girls and their "bigger" mothers are meant to symbolize the economically bigger class

Why that one, user? I always think Cemetery Gates is kind of a fun reminder, but maybe my interpretation is a bit wrong.
>People live and die and fade into nothing, but not the greats like Keats and Yeats because of their art
>friend tries to claim some piece of writing as his own and gets caught for it
>friend then says what is essentially gibberish and even that is revealed to be stolen from someone else
I thought it was about how desperate people are for posterity and that they'll steal and lie just to be remembered after they die. Morrissey says if you want to be remembered earn it.
I think it's kind of inspiring for creative people. Is this a bad reading though?

Oh, well I completely misheard that.

I thought it was supposed to be something like "Some girls are able to handle more and big girls don't cry" but no, it's literally completely face value according to the lead singer.

i just like it because it reminds me of the cemetery i used to live near and how that place made me feel, it was such a strange place because it was right next to a sledding hill/soccer field depending on season and i always found it strange how places that are happy and fun can be so close to death just like how the song itself is in an upbeat tempo despite being about death. maybe im just a retard.

>Is this a bad reading though?
I dont think so.
I always kind of felt the song was pretty vague.
>theres always someone with a big nose, who knows

i dont know anymore man, Morrissey it a bit of a pseud sometimes so maybe it really is about how fat people exist and how skinny people exist

Comfy thread that gives me feels but I cannot express myself because I am an idiot, thank you anyway

youtube.com/watch?v=M6o1SEj02t0

If I recall correctly, morrisey used to meet his friend at the cemetery when he was young.
I saw a documentary about it, he paints a picture of his home town and places he frequented in his albums.

Honestly, the song is not that good. It never clicked with me, it always seemed like it didnt fit.

no user I like that. it's a really interesting view.
the big nose cries out as he trips you

kek yeah i forgot about that part, Morrisseys naming em

yeah its for sure the weakest one of the whole album

"I Know It's Over" is the only song that ever really emotionally affected me. I knew it for years before it hit me, and it hit hard.

thanks, i was worried that id get called a pseud for that take

i remember listening to that song after my dad got drunk and yelled at me and my sister and threatening to hit my mom and getting really sad, i still think about it when i hear the song

no problem user, im having a comfy night so an equally comfy thread feels appropriate

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don't worry about that. we need to retire this whole idea of the pseud.
people fawn over depth when it's surface level, and they get their back up and rage and scream 'pseud!!!' whenever someone makes an observation that isn't. it's fucking irritating and it legitimately makes discussing any form of art impossible because people are paranoid about looking like they care too much.
If you think Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others is about fat women wanting to eat skinny women then explain your reasoning and we can have a good conversation. If I tell you that you're a pseud then nobody will want to talk about what it could actually be about and we'll just have to accept it's about comparing the various sizes of women because we can only look at it on the surface.

gonna continue my rant a little
I'm a lib arts student so I take a couple of classes that discuss art and all that. I get genuinely great discussions on literature and paintings and whatever, but I also see a shit tonne of pseuds (surprisingly they're almost always women) that talk out of their ass and make up insane theories to sound smart.
Instead of calling them pseuds or ignoring them just ask them to explain their stupid theory in as much detail as possible. Eventually either holes will start to appear or they'll reveal they haven't really thought about it in very much detail, OR (this is the best one) it becomes clear that it's not even their opinion and they're just parroting some shit they saw online.

you know, you're a pretty cool guy user, this whole pseud thing is pretty gay, it really bad on boards like /lit/

Thanks man, I think you're cool too.
And it really is. /lit/ doesn't even like discussing books, half the time they're just talking about whether they have actually read something or not.
Based on my last visit there are very few genuine discussions about literature unless it's a classic that's already been picked to pieces a thousand times so they can easily steal opinions.
this site and others like it are my only real homes online, but the intellectual discussion on most boards is stifled to shit. Everyone is irony poisoned and too detached to have a genuine conversation.

youtube.com/watch?v=OugPMQibAjo
>what a terrible mess I've made of my life
>No, I've never had a job
>Because I've never wanted one
>I've seen you smile
>But I've never really heard you laugh
wagies btfo by based Morrissey

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How about you listen to the vastly superior Cemetery Gates
It may even alleviate your faggotry if only for 7 minutes

youtube.com/watch?v=1OYw7FPB7CE

well im glad my thread could be a break for all this tranny porn and shit

Only recently started listen. Favorites are the title track, never had no one and their is a light that never goes out. Maybe I just listen to just the basic shit

/Britfeels/ orignakun

Gross.
The main riff in that song is so fucking awful.

I remember when I was 12 and I helped my dad to engrave text on a client's marble grave. And it was a big fucking grave (big city) and seeing all the graves. Where are they now? They had passion just like mine. I want to cry
t. That night I went home and cried

This album, Desintegration and Pet Sounds are absoluto kino

>Desintegration
The Queen is Dead and that are my top two lately.