Ask a woman anything

what is it that makes male gingers so undesireable for women

What do you think about the nature vs. nurture debate?

I research esoteric and occult concepts, do rituals, channel spirits, dream control, astral projection and more. This is basically my only hobby apart from wood carving which I'm not good at. Wouldn't these things be inherantly unappealing to females. So I couldn't tell them about my esoteric and occult research (which I write a lot about e.t.c) and wood carving is weird to a lot of people. I want a new hobby anyways. What hobbies attract females the most?

>what is it that makes male gingers so undesireable for women
I can't say I have seen any discrimination in that regard. If you are red-haired and you act like you're some kind of leper, then it's actually behaving like this that will put women off, not the red-hairedness per se. Most problems work like this.

>What do you think about the nature vs. nurture debate?
That debate ended a long time ago. There is no longer any debate about it in academic circles, because, by now, we understand that this is so intricate that it doesn't even make sense anymore to wonder whether it's one or the other: genetics can influence environment, environment can change genetics, everything influences everything. It's so interwoven that people no longer debate nurture/nature.

A good model is to think of genetics as potential and environment as enabler/disabler, but even that is not satisfying.

Contrary to beliefs that held strong until not so long ago, humans in development need a ton of "nurture", without which they don't grow. This has been neglected by generations of parents and is not known to many people with serious issues.

>can't socialise
>parents have no friends
>never connect the dots

A lot of what people think is "natural" is actually learned.

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>I research esoteric and occult concepts, do rituals, channel spirits, dream control, astral projection and more. This is basically my only hobby apart from wood carving which I'm not good at. Wouldn't these things be inherantly unappealing to females.
Any anyone sane. If you are serious about this, have my opinion that it stems from literal mental illness and that you should stop immediately. This isn't a hobby, this is lunacy. If you were merely interested in the topic, with a safety distance, and intellectual honesty, critical thinking, science, etc, then sure, it'd be OK, but this tells us a whole different story about you.

Carving wood is a whole lot better.

>So I couldn't tell them about my esoteric and occult research (which I write a lot about e.t.c)
Now you're assuming you have more to say about it than literal experts who already publish books on the topic. Another red flag, if I'm honest.

>wood carving is weird to a lot of people
Why would it be? It's sculpture, it's art. Nobody thinks art is weird.

>What hobbies attract females the most?
See:

Forgot my trippies again.

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>There you go: this is exactly what happens with women, exactly the same thing. So you understood all along, but were convinced that women were too different from you.
It's not so much that I thought of women as different, but that I just needed someone to spell it out to me what it was that upset me about the situation. I'll keep my feelings during those few dates in mind, that's really eye-opening.

>No, it means you know what you want.
It still feels awful to do this sort of thing to people. How do women deal with this, they need to do this a ton more.

>You go out with someone you don't think is compatible for you (no need to say "good enough" or "not good enough", if you don't feel it, that's it) and then engage in a relationship that's doomed from the start?
No, this seems awful and far more hurtful. I suppose I made the right move.

>women can be interested in you, to the point where they take risks to have you.
Yes, it does actually seem that way. I guess I'll just need to go out more and keep my eyes open.

>Most of my answers here will be given as a therapist rather than simply a woman. Being a woman, like being a man, doesn't give much expertise on anything.
Of course.

At first, I was thrilled about the fact that she so blatantly liked me, but the more I interacted with her, the more painful started to be around her. After I turned her down, it was really difficult to even be in the same room as her, both because her feelings were insulting to me and because I felt guilty about it.

But as you said, what's the alternative? Sleep with her and then just throw her away as soon as something better presents itself, if I can even bear her for that long? That sounds even more cruel and even thinking about it makes me feel like scum.

>this girl had come to you like it was nothing, acted friendly, and was fun, things would have been very, very different. You might have become friends, you might have discovered each other, there might have been more
I think so too. It could've gone rather differently, but alas it did not. I guess it wasn't even her being slightly heavier than average that turned me off her, but really the way she interacted with me.

>that's really eye-opening.
Excellent!

>It still feels awful to do this sort of thing to people.
It would be worse if you didn't. You have to. Console yourself in that functional people will do the same to you if they think you and them are not compatible. It's just the mechanics of it. It's not personal, in a sense.

>How do women deal with this, they need to do this a ton more.
When you have to do it a lot, you get desensitised to some degree. You also have to deal with men who insist, are not subtle, can become aggressive, so there's an element of real danger to the deal that makes you focus more on immediate safety and less about hurting feelings. This is largely why women "seem" less approachable: they don't actually want to be approached in a good number of cases.

>No, this seems awful and far more hurtful. I suppose I made the right move.
You did.

>Yes, it does actually seem that way. I guess I'll just need to go out more and keep my eyes open.
Yeppers!

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What is your family's class background?

>both because her feelings were insulting to me and because I felt guilty about it.
You now know exactly how a woman would feel in the same situation. I couldn't have summarised it better. You are a very perceptive user, this will greatly play in your favour.

Remember this: not every woman will see your worth, and those who don't aren't the women you need. Those who do will try to connect with you, and these are the ones you want to go for (unless you don't feel like it).

That said, if a girl you aren't interested in wants to talk with you, you can talk with her without becoming involved romantically. It could be good practice, in dealing with someone who has feels for you, provided you make sure not to hurt her (which means making it clear that you aren't interested romantically, without hurting her, such as in saying that you're not looking for someone currently or some other BS excuse that is just polite rejection).

>I think so too. It could've gone rather differently, but alas it did not. I guess it wasn't even her being slightly heavier than average that turned me off her, but really the way she interacted with me.
100% this. This thread is off to a great start.

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If you mean social status, it was pretty low. I'm an exception in my family.

Why do identical twins who are separated at birth and raised in different environments end up with the same political views?

how the FUCK do i find a gf?

This isn't always the case. There are cases studies where the twins end up strikingly similar, even in appearance, but this is usually shown in a context where the social similarities are downplayed. In this specific case, it's generally because both twins were adopted by families who share political views also.

>how the FUCK do i find a gf?
By not showcasing your anger issues the instant you talk to one.

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>By not showcasing your anger issues the instant you talk to one.
i wasn't doing that

>how the FUCK do i find a gf?
Shouting "fuck" is expressing your anger. If you aren't aware of it, it is time to become aware of what you communicate, or this may lead to serious misunderstandings, in which you might blame others for reacting to your own signals.

To find a girlfriend, you should try dating websites. Consider using Bumble, a website where men cannot intiate conversations, and where only women can, which does two things: it makes sure women are never harassed, and men don't have to run after every female available. Make a neat profile and wait.

Also don't shout swear words in your bio.

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user why Elizabeth Debicki? Do you have a fetish?

She is the celebrity that looks the most like me.

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Being a woman sure seems quite unpleasant in that regard.

>Remember this: not every woman will see your worth, and those who don't aren't the women you need. Those who do will try to connect with you, and these are the ones you want to go for (unless you don't feel like it).
That sounds nice, but I still don't really get how I can find opportunities to show my worth if she isn't metaphorically knocking my door down.

>Being a woman sure seems quite unpleasant in that regard.
It is. It's literally dangerous, and you have to consider a lot of parameters that most men never even think about; it's infuriating when they think you have it easy, because they think it's easy only because they don't know.

>That sounds nice, but I still don't really get how I can find opportunities to show my worth if she isn't metaphorically knocking my door down.
Websites. This is where women look for men. It's the safest. If you can spell, you're already ahead of the pack.

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>Also don't shout swear words in your bio.
lmao, you do know that people dont act the same irl as they do here right? anyway thanks for the answer, but i doubt it's gonna work because where i live nobody uses dating apps.

How do I fluff up my resume if I have no work experience in my field and no references because I was an autist throughout college and also had a low GPA?

I think that it's a great mistake to cultivate a rude and unpleasant online persona, because this behavior will almost certainly affect your offline life. Especially if you do spend a lot of time here. When I stopped being an insufferable shitposter using internet meme language and constant swears online things rapidly got better because I found myself thinking less and less in these terms. Language affects thought.

Talk properly and you can think properly.

I recognize you Beth, I was just wondering a few days ago where you went

Do you think it's possible that someone with BPD could actually reach a point that they feel secure in a relationship and feel happy?

What are your thoughts and feelings upon viewing this carefully?

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Why do women think it is impressive to be promiscuous?

>but i doubt it's gonna work because where i live nobody uses dating apps.
Then use whatever they use.

Try finding activities that could pass for work experience (if you helped an uncle on his farm or something) and focus on skills if you can't expand much on activities and experience.

>I think that it's a great mistake to cultivate a rude and unpleasant online persona, because this behavior will almost certainly affect your offline life.
This is true. If you spend too much time on /tv/, you WILL think "BASED KINO" at some point IRL while watching a movie. This stuff bleeds through.

>When I stopped being an insufferable shitposter using internet meme language and constant swears online things rapidly got better because I found myself thinking less and less in these terms. Language affects thought.
This 200%. I once accidentally spoke ebonics to a student (and she was 9) because I had larped as a black user for a while. "That's a big ass pencil case you got there!" Then I just hoped she didn't hear what I actually said and went on as if nothing.

>Talk properly and you can think properly.
Based kino.

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>Do you think it's possible that someone with BPD could actually reach a point that they feel secure in a relationship and feel happy?
Yes. If you work on yourself, you can reach a functional level, absolutely. Don't feel stuck on the BPD diagnosis. We aren't pokemans.

>What are your thoughts and feelings upon viewing this carefully?
Low-tier porn. Weird position. I can't imagine that's comfortable. Despite my intense libido, this didn't do much for me. I'm also not into people outside my own "race".

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I had a phase where I accidentally quoted the plane scene constantly, it was quite based kino when I realized it.
And I still giggle like a little girl whenever someone says "for you".

>This stuff bleeds through.
now THIS is pod racing

>Why do women think it is impressive to be promiscuous?
I don't know anyone who thinks so. Most women, if not all, try hard not to sound promiscuous. It's a balancing act between sounding like a sexless creature and a slut, as men, and women, frequently act like there's nothing in between. Some Madonna/Whore Complex right there.

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>And I still giggle like a little girl whenever someone says "for you".
This is why Jow Forums is cancer. I try hard never to use memes, so they don't pollute my mind out there.

>now THIS is pod racing
I sometimes say this when I come.

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I don't know about websites, I'm quite bad at getting my picture taken and it's really painful to practice that sort of thing.
Also, I don't think they're all to populated.

>Yes. If you work on yourself, you can reach a functional level, absolutely. Don't feel stuck on the BPD diagnosis.
Can I ask how? Or at least for a point in the right direction? Can't see a shrink for insurance reasons but I want to improve
>We aren't pokemans.
You know I dont like it when you remind me about the good timeline ;-;

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Alright, what about this one then?

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She looks like Brie Larson

>I don't know about websites
Time to do research. There are tons. Avoid Tinder.

>I'm quite bad at getting my picture taken
Ask a friend who is good at photography, or, if you have some money, get a professional to do it.

>Also, I don't think they're all to populated.
You are wrong. This is where all the shy women go to find a man without taking risks. If you want a woman who doesn't go to clubs, for instance, this is where you will find her. All nerdy girls are on dating websites to find a man.

Don't give up before you tried. As an user who can spell, be interested in things, and etc, you're already ahead of the pack compared to many men on these websites.

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>Can I ask how? Or at least for a point in the right direction?
This is what you can use without hiring a therapist. The author had BPD and managed to heal herself via this method. Be brave, you can do it.

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Why do only guys show interest in me and girls don't want to lewd me

Nice cock, but definitely too big. I understand why she focuses on the balls. Waste of an orgasm, in my opinion. Nice abs. But still, I'm not into black men, even when they have nice bodies.

How do I make it in the rap game?

>now THIS is pod racing
>I sometimes say this when I come
I'm speechless. I am genuinely so baffled I don't even know what to say.
I am trying to imagine Elizabeth Debicki about to come, shouting "now this is pod racing", but I just can't.
Oh, how I long to experience this.

I guess it's over user, you have the high ground.

>Why do only guys show interest in me and girls don't want to lewd me
Because guys are like you: they just want some flesh, which is why girls don't want to "lewd" you. Being meat to someone else isn't that great, especially when there are hundreds who would enjoy it and very few who'd care about who you are beyond the skin.

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You learn the basics of rap and practice a lot.

>Oh, how I long to experience this.
You only need to find a woman with a sense of humor.

>I guess it's over user, you have the high ground.
It's not too late to bring balance to the Force. Remember that how you need women is how women need you, too.

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Oh, she sucked it plenty. Just not in that webm.

Do you like viewing porn?

>Do you like viewing porn?
Only when I specifically want to masturbate. But yes, I do.

Who says I'm a guy OP?

If you don't specify, I assume you're a man. But you are, aren't you?

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Thank you for the recommendation Beth
I'm glad you're back

Do you think you can show me your sweet little pussy

>Being meat to someone else isn't that great
Not that guy but what can I do to stop being only wanted for sex or just to make them horny? I'm not even a chad, I'm a virgin but all women who have showed interest have acted really perverted then stopped talking to me when I didn't respond all sexual or try to fuck them right away. It makes me uncomfortable. I'm not gay or anything, I just don't want to fuck women like an animal.

>Time to do research. There are tons.
Yes, time.

>Avoid Tinder.
of course

>Ask a friend who is good at photography, or, if you have some money, get a professional to do it.
I guess asking you what kind of photo would probably be silly and pointless.

>You are wrong.
I count on being wrong here, I just say it to validate my decision to not engage with it up until now.
I'll see about it, thanks.

>Don't give up before you tried.
It's unfortunatrly a common pattern for me and I should really stop doing it.

>As an user who can spell, be interested in things, and etc, you're already ahead of the pack compared to many men on these websites.
Is it really that bad?
That's quite baffling, just what on earth is so wrong with me?

>>can't socialise
>>parents have no friends
I never connected those dots until now either. Any recommendations on how people can overcome the lack of early development in similar aspects later in life?

Hey last thread was a nice read just to let you know.
I'm 24 years old and really bad at communicating both irl and in text so I mostly just lurk. Everytime I have the energy to try to talk I spastically jump between topics that come to mind and people call me weird a couple minutes in.
So I developed the habit of preferring to listen and observe if people have something to telll but I don't know how to keep the flow going. It devolves into awkward silence and I creep out everyone. Also I get panic attacks when I have to explain stuff. I'd like to make contact with people but I lack the ability i guess. That feeling of dread and panic overcomes me when I stumble on my tongue or seen messing up and it spirals downhill from then and I just want to run away and hide forever.
I notice sometimes I'm 'cool' or natural, or normal for a couple minutes or so, and able to make small talk and make people and even women comfortable around me, and make them smile and do eye contact. looking back it feels like it happens on instinct and I can't replicate it. happens maybe once every 2 weeks and feels amazing. Feels like I'm uncaged and finally normal but at the same time feels like a different person. How do I become like that permanently?
Also this post took me about 45 minutes to create and went through about the same amount of rewrites. It's so hard to live please give advice

No
I'm just aromantic

>I just don't want to fuck women like an animal.
You will find plenty of women who want a serious relationship. Just go for them. You are most likely quite attractive, and as such, other women may not dare approach you, as they will imagine you're too good for them. Approach them first. See what happens. Be cool, be casual, no pressure, no expectations. Just communication and fun.

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I'd really like to inhale the aroma of your dirty panties.

Why would a girl ghost me after we hooked up? She seemed into me the whole time, sex was good (i didn't cum but she did), and we texted a bit the day afer. I asked to hang out again and got radio silence.

>I guess asking you what kind of photo would probably be silly and pointless.
Nothing weird. Just classic portraits of you looking good.

>It's unfortunatrly a common pattern for me and I should really stop doing it.
Self-sabotage is often the main obstacle for everyone.

>Is it really that bad?
Yes. Women face all sorts of absolute weirdos out there. Good spelling is a simple way to weed out idiots from the rest, use it to your advantage. If you can spell, be smart, and not aggressively aim for the pussy, you're already in the winning percentage of men who date online.

>That's quite baffling, just what on earth is so wrong with me?
You don't try, that's all.

I was already beating my cock before I got here I really want you to make me cum little baby

That's strange, the women I know think their body count is their biggest accomplishment. I gotta find classier women. Where do you hang out?

>I never connected those dots until now either.
I know. I know what I'm doing. Glad I could help.

>Any recommendations on how people can overcome the lack of early development in similar aspects later in life?
Yes. You read book-related and become your own parent.

Also look into Erik Erikson's developmental model, it's interesting.

>you level up with crises
I'll post that stuff in a moment.

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How do you feel about BDSM and how would one break the subject to their girlfriend?

I assume literally everyone knows and has thought about doing it, due to 50 Shades' absurd popularity.

Any thoughts about Jeffrey Epstein?

at least one of these authors is jewish

How offputting is it to meet up with a date and find out he's a 30 year old virgin? What if he's naturally assertive and masculine but is just inexperienced?

>Hey last thread was a nice read just to let you know.
Thank you, user.

>I'm 24 years old and really bad at communicating both irl and in text so I mostly just lurk. Everytime I have the energy to try to talk I spastically jump between topics that come to mind and people call me weird a couple minutes in.
Solely due to lack of training. When untrained socially, it's like being on stage and having to improvise: it's fucking hard. Here are tips:

>you don't have to speak constantly
>silence is OK
>listening is more than OK, people love when you listen to them
>asking them questions out of interest will also be loved
>you aren't there to entertain others; others will be interested in you genuinely
>relax, if you aren't feeling OK, people will notice, which is fine also since you aren't feeling OK, so far, in social contexts, but you'll get better with practice

>So I developed the habit of preferring to listen and observe if people have something to telll but I don't know how to keep the flow going.
You ask questions out of authentic interest. See "active listening".

cont.

>You don't try, that's all.
Wow, that's just brutal

Thank you for taking your time listening to me.
I don't really know how to say this without making it seem weird, but you seem really nice.

>Also I get panic attacks when I have to explain stuff. I'd like to make contact with people but I lack the ability i guess. That feeling of dread and panic overcomes me when I stumble on my tongue or seen messing up and it spirals downhill from then and I just want to run away and hide forever.
Consider group therapy with people who suffer from similar issues: any group activity will help you reduce social anxiety.

>looking back it feels like it happens on instinct and I can't replicate it.
It is a habit, it'll come back easily with practice, worry not. You're fine.

>happens maybe once every 2 weeks and feels amazing.
That's a lot more than many people around here.

>Feels like I'm uncaged and finally normal but at the same time feels like a different person. How do I become like that permanently?
You do what everyone else does: you socialise more frequently!

>Also this post took me about 45 minutes to create and went through about the same amount of rewrites. It's so hard to live please give advice
Learn not to give a fuck. You have a God-given right to exist and take up space, simply because you exist. You are Nature, user, you are like the waves, beautiful and free. You are made of the same stuff as all the most beautiful things in this universe. Never forget you are the universe's child, and thus, a serious badass.

I applaud you for going through all you are going through. You are doing great, and you may not even realise. I have many patients who suffer the same, but your courage is not shared by most. You are a brilliant user and I am optimistic about you. You will do fine. Just be patient with yourself, be good to yourself. This isn't your fault, you are repairing the damage others have done.

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>I'm just aromantic
I'm wary of such terms. Do you mean you can't care for other people?

Trust me, you would. My nutrition is great, so my pussy smells like Pepsi Cola.

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>Why would a girl ghost me after we hooked up?
If this was mostly a sexual thing, maybe she decided not to be strictly sexual and get serious. Maybe she died. Maybe she wants to have sex with other men now.

>sex was good (i didn't cum but she did),
How good could it be if you didn't come?

How do I know if they are interested in relationships? Is it possible that they want a relationship but act all sexually because it's 'expected' or something? I have thought about just letting sex happen but it makes me sad if the girl only wanted to have casual sex. I don't like casual sex. I don't want to take the risk of being the reverse of pump and dumped

>the women I know think their body count is their biggest accomplishment. I gotta find classier women. Where do you hang out?
>office
>library
>universities for conferences
>bars for intellectuals and artists
>restaurants
>lakeside cafes

>How do you feel about BDSM and how would one break the subject to their girlfriend?
By discussing what you fantasises about in a non-judgemental setting, a setting in which nothing is expected of the other, a setting where you just share. Any pressure from you is likely to make her not want to do anything. If you just inform her and let her be free, there's a much bigger chance she'll consider it. Never try to take people's freedom away.

>I assume literally everyone knows and has thought about doing it,
That's you generalising because you experience shame. Trust me, I don't care about BDSM myself and never did. Being tied up makes me want to break free and fight and kills any lust I may have.

>due to 50 Shades' absurd popularity.
Yes, but that's strictly a fantasy. Most women who think they'd enjoy BDSM end up not enjoying it at all when it's IRL.

Men also confuse women's fantasies for realities.

>How good could it be if you didn't come?

I have death grip issues, so it's normal for me not to come.

I don't think he conspiracy theories are likely. I'm not too informed on the case, but probably a pedophile who finds himself caught and exposed to the world, and cannot stand the shame of that, coupled with his own guilt.

Yes, quite possibly. Don't be a silly antisemite. Nothing in the book has anything to do with Jews. It's an important volume that I wish everybody read.

Do you have a Roth IRA?

I'll get right on that, thanks for the advice!
Another thing I would love to get some insight on. I've found myself resorting to alcohol when I get a lot of free time. Now by no means do I consider myself alcoholic, unless I'm in denial and depending on what I define as alcoholism. As an example and some background - I would describe myself as very career driven, though I'm still between my first and second year in Uni. I have no problem with cramming of responsibilities between work and school and rather deal with them successfully. But when I'm forced into having more free time, like I have now because of returning to my home country for two months to meet family, I prefer to spend most of it at least tipsy, although I'm never getting hammered apart from the expectably occasional night out in a club.

>How offputting is it to meet up with a date and find out he's a 30 year old virgin?
By far not what matters the most. If you're horribly insecure about it, it would be the insecurity itself that might be off-putting, but a modicum of it would be understandable. Also, any first time between two people is a real first time, so everyone is nervous. Don't worry.

>What if he's naturally assertive and masculine but is just inexperienced?
Forget about the "assertive and masculine" shit, most men don't have a clue how to do it and just end up looking like clown. You can't fake confidence, and confidence isn't about acting like a douche because that's your idea of a "real man". Real men are men who stopped caring about trivial stuff like this because they have known happiness and suffering. They're above that and it shows. If you have no experience in something, don't pretend. Innocence has its charms, too.

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>Wow, that's just brutal
As long as it's true. I don't mess around as a therapist, but I always found it is for the best. Rejoice, you're all right, and the only issue is not trying. It's like having a winning ticket for a lottery, and not playing it. Just do it, old sport.

>Thank you for taking your time listening to me.
>I don't really know how to say this without making it seem weird, but you seem really nice.
Thank you! I am really nice. It's my job and vocation to take care of my fellow humans.

How do you get over someone you never got into a relationship with but really thought you could until you realised he/she didn't plan on getting into a serious relationship ever?
Should I just keep this person out of my life or should I try to keep her as a friend, or at worst an acquaintance?

>How do I know if they are interested in relationships?
You can ask. Sometimes they will tell you directly, sometimes they will drop clues as to what their expectations are.

>Is it possible that they want a relationship but act all sexually because it's 'expected' or something?
Everything is possible. Yes, some might think their main value is sexual, so they'll "put out", but these may not be your type. Consider that women also need sex. It's a need, and it can be ravenous. You might also be ridiculously hot.

>I don't like casual sex. I don't want to take the risk of being the reverse of pump and dumped
It is fine for you to establish this early on. "I don't do casual sex, I'm more interested in full relationships." No woman will dislike you for honesty and wanting long-term relationships. That way you weed out those who just want your meat and those who want the whole package, so to speak.

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>Just do it, old sport.
Time to go hand in my ticket, Ms. Gadsby

>Thank you! I am really nice.
And so humble! Good to see.

>I have death grip issues, so it's normal for me not to come.
I'm suspicious of this term. Are you sure this isn't a loss of libido, more simply?

>Do you have a Roth IRA?
No, and I don't plan on retiring. I'm independent and will work until I drop.

That's the beginning of alcoholism if you use it to function normally on a daily basis. Be careful. If I were you, I would quit instantly and never venture further than that. You do not want an addiction to plague your life.

What are your thoughts on circumcision?

>How do you get over someone you never got into a relationship with but really thought you could until you realised he/she didn't plan on getting into a serious relationship ever?
You focus on that the one for you will actually love you. If they don't, they're not the one for you.

>Should I just keep this person out of my life or should I try to keep her as a friend, or at worst an acquaintance?
Entirely up to you and what seems the best choice. Take what makes you suffer the least.

>Time to go hand in my ticket, Ms. Gadsby
Based kino.

Not an expert, but not quite enlightened on this American skin obsession. Arguably done for health reasons. I don't know enough.

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The problem is that I'm suffering now and I don't know which option would make me suffer the least. In all honesty I feel like cutting this person off completely is something I should consider too but life isn't just about my own suffering.

As for the love part. I would say no. She is definitely not going to love someone enough to want a serious relationship because she isn't happy with her life.

I must go take care of something now. I will return in maybe 2 hours or so. If the thread is still on, I will resume responding to you people.

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