Stop chasing women. Don't even think about them. Mgtow is the only viable option. Traditional women are fakes, don't fall for that. Don't be a beta, an orbiter or get married.
Why am I telling you this? Because I have experience. I've lived with my fiancee for about 6 years - I was a total idiot, believed in feminism, and literally served and supported (financially and emotionally) her, just for being dumped for the first time I needed help and support.
Women want your money, your status, but not you. They pretend they love you, but after a while you'll find out they can't feel compassion, guilt or regret. When you are powerful, she likes you. When you lose power, she starts to lose interest.
Monkey branching is a thing. My girlfriend also had betas around her, but she always pretended she has no interest in them. When she starts to have male "friends", that's a huge sign. Also other females can always encourage women to cheat and make them disrespectful towards men (like their fathers and boyfriends).
Listen to me, virgins and incels: yes, society and women make you believe that male virgins are losers. But at the same time they make the whole game rigged. Being an incel is a real thing, and it shows how fucked our society is. Yes, sex feels good, but trust me, break-ups, bad marriages and divorces are far worse than being celibate.
Nofap is bullshit, by the way. Masturbation makes women worthless. My gf was a complete disaster in the bed. I literally had to teach her how to fuck. Fapping is far better than having a clumsy partner. Also she could also make me feel guilty for having sex - I'm not kidding you.
Sex is only funk if your woman feels in charge and enjoys your status and power. When she feels bad, she'll make you feel bad, too. Especially in bed.
It just not worth it. If you feel you need a relationship, you are already doing it wrong. Find a hobby, get friends and save as money as you can (I spend a lot of money on her, and it was a huge mistake). Don't ever trust women - I'm serious. Don't listen to them, they always try to manipulate you.
You were a feminist and you supposed ur fiancee, well that's amusing. And yes the finance thing is true. My grandmother and grandpa have been married for 30 years or so, and when talking to me about it my grandma said "its mostly been good, except the time he was made redundant and was looking for a job". I think the difference is that she stuck by him, she didn't just monkey branch away because that was not acceptable.
Oliver Ross
same shit happened to me OP. i was with this bitch for 4 years and she ended it because i cracked under stress from literally supporting her and having no outlet. she would berate me for being depressed and not "doing anything" yet she would never take initiative for absolutely anything. just the other day she told me i was a waste of time and there was nothing good from our relationship. i'm not going to lie, that shit hurt. all of that being said, i've given up on women for the most part. i don't hate them because that's a waste of energy but i definitely never want to be in a long term relationship ever again. i'm getting too old for this bullshit. all i want to do at this point is talk to strangers, learn new cool things, and build stuff. fuck everything else.
Blake Long
Thank you for your wise words, OP. I'll make sure to not forget them. Sadly, however, I have to tell you to FUCK OFF, NORMALFAG! GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY BOARD! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>"its mostly been good, except the time he was made redundant and was looking for a job"
every fucking time. Last time I tried to get a gf she said to me: "If you'd have more money and stuff, I'd be with you". That's what I call a whore. You can't buy love. Guess what: women really can't feel love.
> I think the difference is that she stuck by him, she didn't just monkey branch away because that was not acceptable.
Exactly. That was a good thing living in a traditional society - women had lesser power over men. But they were the same; they lied, cheated and even poisoned men, only they needed to do these in secret.
>i'm not going to lie, that shit hurt
I'm sorry, bro. It's gonna hurt for a while, but I hope you'll get over it better than me.
> i've given up on women for the most part
Good. Spend your money and time on something more productive.
>i definitely never want to be in a long term relationship ever again
Happy to hear that. It's a trap. Check some mgtow forums, there are thousands of men around the world who try to live a better life without women. They are very supportive.
>all i want to do at this point is talk to strangers, learn new cool things, and build stuff. fuck everything else.
fortunately, they are all selecting for the best genes so sooner or later all men will be high quality as well.
Anthony Perez
wrow i got fucked once and now all women are trash reeeee
What a fucking retard
Charles Clark
I know about "cyborgs". I simply don't consider them capable of understanding the pain robots feel
Juan Jones
Bullshit. They don't want good genes, they want your money and your social status.
Being this bluepilled, holy shit.
Benjamin Johnson
Sounds like people here never had a healthy relationship to begin with, desu. Get yourself sorted our. How are you supposed to have healthy relationships if you suffer from insecurities, self-loathing and sourround yourself with emotional barriers? If you yourself are constantly questioning yourself and the relationship, she will do too.
Asher Taylor
the genes that are related to money and social status are what society needs.
Asher Cook
Seriously, I will never get tired of asking this question: where the fuck all these normalfags whiteknights came from? It boggles my mind reading posts like these on Jow Forums of all places...
Nathan Morales
They want the vagina so bad they automatically go whiteknight mode in threads like this. They want to believe.
How about cucks? Many father (hubbys with the skills you're talking about) unknowingly raise the kids of another dude. >But that still means the best genes will pass down
No, it means cucks are going to be cucks and even a chad can't be sure he's raising his own offspring or not. Fuck the system.
it does mean the best genes will be passed down. all men will be the same
Elijah Morris
Eugenics is about the exact opposite. In your version, the most used / exploited men will pass down their genes. It doesn't mean that these guys are necessarily handsome, strong or smart. It only means women decided that they want their sperm for some reason. Mostly for getting pregnant to trick the guy into marriage. Also there are a lot of "accidents", which sometimes lead to abortion, or simply a bad marriage.
Breeding =/= good genes
This is not good for the gene pool. Women want men to be weak. That's why there are so many ugly and autistic kids nowadays.
Carson Jenkins
>he fell for the vagina jew
I told guys women never evolved agape love. women only reach up to pragmatic love so they don't really love you.
Alexander Lopez
>"you just picked the wrong one" >not all women
here we go again with the same tradcuck bullshit.
Jason Stewart
>Find a hobby, get friends and save as money as you can >all i want to do at this point is talk to strangers, learn new cool things, and build stuff.
That's sad. You're only doing those things out of spite. You haven't really given up on women, you're still bitter about your failed relationship. Deep down you wish you could find a perfect woman.
Aiden Jones
I like looking at beautiful women, they're like the best looking things on this planet, their bodies evolved to be the most appealing looking thing to the human male, how can i not think about them, you absolute homosexual.
That's what porn is for. Looking and thinking at them is ok. But just because I like looking at a tiger, a beautiful creature of nature, I don't want to get near to it.
Adrian Reyes
Looking is fine. Interacting and realizing how abysmally abhorrent women actually are is something else entirely
Cooper Gray
you don't know what you're talking about normiefag my shut in robot ex is currently on hour 5 on a private server playing a vidya game with her new bf, that she paid for, so they could be together in a virtual environment she is the most fucking loving beautiful angel on the fucking planet, she worshiped , absolute lyrics worshiped the ground I walked on to the point where I couldn't stand it because I didn't deserve such pure love your problem is you fucking aged out, a girls pure love should never be taken for granted and only ro ots understand this you'll never experience the pure dopamine response of 20 hours of gaming straight in a vidya game with the girl of your biggest dreams and at the end of the session she pulls her beautiful young tits (legal) out and master bates for you while telling you how much she loves you you'll never under fucking stand go back to pol you normiefag
Aiden Morris
Women don't fuck low quality men. Just look at the charts.
Charles Myers
I don't know guys... Women, they're just so good looking, one can't help but to want to touch one, you know? their bodies, just look at the silhouette.
Yeah, you can touch them alright. Prostitutes are there for a reason: no strings attached and you don't have to keep up with the stinking bullshit that is having a relationship with a woman.
Joseph Perez
this
But I'm actually against prostitution. While one could say prostitutes are at least honest, and you get what you paid for... but paying for sex is encouraging women to be whores. It doesn't matter how you're paying for sex (either in a relationship or for a prostitute), you simply shouldn't. You know how women deny sex? Well men should do the same. Deny support, power and status from women until they learn the lesson and start to act like decent human beings.
good thing that mgotw is being pushed more and more in the chans. agree with op.
focus on science. rise above.
Brody Reyes
I'm against prostitution too. But, since the user I was replying to was being obnoxious, I thought I could recommend him the next better option to satisfy his desires
Jeremiah Hall
>focus on science. rise above.
Whenever women gain power in history, civilization falls and culture dies. Funny how normies never figured this one out.
Yeah, ok, I got it. Prostitutes are far better than "girlfriends", that's true.
Dylan Green
>Whenever women gain power in history, civilization falls and culture dies. Funny how normies never figured this one out.
That was just your bitch, user. What about the women who fall for men that have nothing to offer them? No status, money or whatever the fuck. That shit happens all the time.
Henry Allen
That is if you are trying to create a better future. MGTOW philosophy says fuck the future, I wont be around for it. MGTOW is only about the individual. Its selfish, and to people who want to change the world for the better MGTOW seems retarded. But youre looking at it with the wrong lens.
Let this piece of shit society burn out. Its better for everyone if our children are never born.
Carter Gray
>being this bluepilled Im not sure where to begin on how to answer your question. Women are not complex creatures, they only appear that way since we project our male brain onto theirs. Internalize the concept of AWALT and you will have all the answers you need.
