36, went on the 2nd date of my life last night

and I couldve easily fucked her but bottled it, she had such an amazing impression from me that I didnt want to burst her bubble by being pathetic in bed. shes only 24, the poor girl doesnt need to be dealing with my bs.
does this thought process now confirm lifelong wizardry?

my first date I took a girl out when I was a teenager in 1999,took her to a computer fair, gave her a cd of screensavers and she kissed me lol

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If shes cool shell still hang with you user. Just gotta let go some time.

Also, invest in a cockring. They're great.

>Also, invest in a cockring.
why?

Helps with stamina if you havent fucked in a while or if you've recently taken loads of amphetamines. Silicone ones are easy to hide, slip on and slip off without anyone noticing.

That was just a suggestion though. You'll probably be fine without it.

>amphetamines
that'll just give him anxiety

I'm not saying he should do them. That's why I own a cockring personally.

I dont get the anxiety thing. Amphetamines make me super outgoing and charismatic.

I mean I havent fucked anyone ever but keeping the old boy up isnt a problem.
I usually masturbate 2-3 times a day, with the 3rd ones being 10minutes+

if you're already predisposition to anxiety it'll just make it worse because its a stimulate.

forget about boning, jesus, it will come. just focus on cultivating positive and memorable experiences together.

Real talk this was me but when i fucked for the first time i kept going limp after a few minutes of penetration. Coukd stay rock solid from blowjobs but yeah careful bro or youll end up like me

It doesnt just keep it up. It keeps you from blowing your load. For like, however long.

Get a little drunk, then when you cum too fast just say its the alcohol mixed with how sexy you find her
Her pussy will melt pretty much
Good luck

>I didnt want to burst her bubble by being pathetic in bed. shes only 24, the poor girl doesnt need to be dealing with my bs.
>does this thought process now confirm lifelong wizardry?
well, I love you already, user, as a brother
I hope everything works out great for you and that you and your girl get married and have kids

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Wholesome. Be like this user everything will work out fine. Be a caring guy, but dont be a pushover

just fall deeply in love with her and eat her pussy and asshole out till she is so red in the face she looks like she will explode
your dick size and performance may not matter if there are other things, such as an emotional connection
and tell her how pretty she is, all the time
like in details, like if she is barefoot, and you adore her feet, tell her that, but don't force that shit yo

Everything you said is right, but one imo. Dont tell her shes pretty all the time. Compliments can be over done. Tell her this sort of shit when shes down, when shes sick, just not all the time.

When you say something too much it devalues it. Caring and being cared about implies all of those compliments. Compliments are for when people need them or as a suprise.

You'll be alright. Take it slow. Sex isn't that difficult though. Just forget everything you saw in porno and monitor her actual reactions. Ask her what she likes and then try doing that.

>and I couldve easily fucked her

How do you know? Did she invite you back or something?

he's a wizard, he used spell magic to foresee the future and read her mind
not that you would know, you filthy acolyte

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i doubt that you could pull off sex with her without ANY experience

this is old Jow Forums trannyposting and shitposting
thankfully, they have been outposted by the oldfags that came back from the eight channal

>my first date I took a girl out when I was a teenager in 1999,took her to a computer fair, gave her a cd of screensavers and she kissed me lol
What a chad

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It's sad that people are not as greatful or impressed with computers and technology anymore like how it was in the 90s.
It's probably because of the availability of everything.
I miss the 90s.

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If a guy did this with me I'd marry him.

>How do you know?
it came up in conversation that i lived nearby, she said joked that she didnt need to take a taxi tonight, that she couldve just parked at my place.
me being virgin sperg just sensible chuckled.

at the end of the night she was pretending to be a little bit drunk when she wasnt at all, i kissed her before sending her home in a taxi and she was trying to be cutsey saying "ohh shouldnt have finished off that last glass, i could do anything teeheehee".
she was sober, she sent me texts for an hour afterwards and another one today saying take me out again.

You sound absolutely delightful to be around from the way you phrased everything. How come you've been alone for so long?

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user!!!! if you have sexual insecurity unironically look up how to do shit!!
eat pussy, and there's fingering techniques that are rlly easy to execute if you look up a guide.
it helped me with perfomance and confidence, penis in vagina is not the be all and end all

>36
>24

Sounds like she has daddy issues dude, enjoy

>How come you've been alone for so long?
ive never let anyone get close to me ever, ive never had friends past highschool, never socialised in work, ghosted every woman thats ever shown interest in me.
i had a pretty awful childhood (boo hoo havent we all) with a whore single mother who was addicted to all sorts of things but mainly whoring, gambling and heroin. so from a young age used to lie to everyone else about what life at home was life, i used to lie to people in school about going on trips places, having cool toys or whatever but back then some people around me growing up were friends who knew the truth.
i was always smart though and when i went to university and saw how all the normal people were, i just larped as one of them, made up a family backstroy to explain why i always spent christmas alone on campus and never let a girl get beyond kissing me and grabbing my dick in her hands, purely as my mind always raced that one day she might ask about my family/parents.

continued in work through adulthood, for years ive just never spoken to anybody about anything personal, it held me back at first not sucking up to bosses or getting involved in office politics and whatever (work in finance). when eth exploded a couple of years ago and i ended up owning my own place, driving a big fancy car and generally looking like a guy with tons of money, people in work began to notice and over the last few years ive been slowly taking control of more and more people.

the pain of seeing all the 20somethings and zoomers with happy relationships, social lives and such has long subsided and ive kind of accepted my place. the date i went on yesterday was pretty spontaneous, we just caught each others eye whilei was out eating on my own at lunch, i was in 'work mode' which means pretending to be charismatic and fun, asked her to come out for dinner that night.

she thought i was the same age as her lol.

>user!!!! if you have sexual insecurity unironically look up how to do shit!!
i will do this.
it might help me if it ever comes to getting the job done in person from preventing total disaster.

Damn user, that's rough. I grew up with a single mother too but she was a cripplingly paranoid workaholic instead of a whore. Would never let me talk about what was going on at home and would yell at me if I wasn't smiling while talking to her or anyone else, presumably to keep up appearances. It's a lot easier to just power through the trauma instead of "processing" it, I think. A lot of the time, that's the only way to keep on going at all, really. I figure it doesn't mean much but I'm really sorry you had to go through that. Do you ever think you'll be able to open up to someone about that? Do you even want to? How do you see your life playing out vs. how would you want it to play out at this point in time?

A lot of questions, I know, but I feel a bit scared that this is a possible future.

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You obviously don't want to lose your virginity that badly otherwise you would have. So yes, lifelong wizardry for you man

>Do you ever think you'll be able to open up to someone about that?
its something ive only really discovered this year, so ive only spoken to people online about unresolved trauma but even if i were to seek some irl contact about it all it could only be a therapist anyway.
being closed off to the world was my default setting for 20+ years, i had never really thought too much about the route of the problem and just assumed i was a complete fucking weirdo by nature rather than childhood conditioning.
>Do you even want to?
i think so now, ive never considered myself lonely but i know ive missed out on a lifetimes worth of experience.
if i was to ever to 'come out' and be myself, its the antithesis of what a woman would ever expect if i met them in person and probably enough to see them run to the hills, given ive larped for so many years as a reasonably well put together professional with some financial success. everyone i work with knows im a mega private person, they all just assume ive a life outside of work as i never breath a word about my off time.
ive reached out to a few people on comment sections and on this board about getting over past problems but at my age and the damage being so ingrained that even speaking to women who have been through issues themselves, its impossible to find anyone to connect with as these women themselves dont want to deal with others bullshit.
i think its why theres so many 'muh fembot' threads on here these days, ive found myself posting in them, the appeal of meeting a potentially damaged woman feels like the only way that somebody with psychological issues can ever be themselves from the outset without some kind of normie expectations making opening up impossible.

>How do you see your life playing out vs. how would you want it to play out at this point in time?
forever alone v having a partner to build a normal life with, with no pretenses and honesty.

>I feel a bit scared that this is a possible future.
if that does turn out to be the case, i dont think you/me are alone, theres probably millions of people out there living a lie and simply existing in the worlds background, imploding when they have a mid life crisis.

I don't think it's fair to assume you're too 'broken' to help yourself or get help just because you're 36. That's kind of like saying you can't lose weight because you've been fat all your life, isn't it? It's going to be a hell of a lot more difficult but it's not impossible. I would hope, at least.
What would coming out and being yourself look like? Don't see how a woman worth any salt would run to the hills because of that.
Have you talked to any of the femanons in the fembot threads?
I'll be honest I wasn't going to go this route and you're currently courting that 24 year old, as you should, but I am female (though it's not like that matters). Not sure if inappropriate but would you like to talk off this thread about some of these issues? Not trying to imply anything with that statement. Could be cathartic.

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>That's kind of like saying you can't lose weight because you've been fat all your life, isn't it?
if all that was required to retrace 20 years of life experience was to exercise and eat clean food, with easy roadmaps, with entire industries in place to make the job straight forward then the analogy would stand.
thats probably unfair for me to dismiss, as me seeking to make up for lost time is a recent thought experiment with nothing but some slow outreaching online, ive no idea what is even possible.
>What would coming out and being yourself look like? Don't see how a woman worth any salt would run to the hills because of that.
typically the ones worth their salt are well spoken for and in long standing relationships, though if i thought meeting one was impossible i wouldnt even have it as a thought in my head so there must be a candle light of hope in there somewhere still burning away.
as for being myself, i kind of am myself all the time, ive become the empty shell i portray to the world. breaking down the barrier of outwardly projecting independence, being stoic, being hard bitten and assertive with people in work (my only irl social contact) would reveal nothing at all, just an empty vessel. i have no real hobbies anymore, no real ambitions i havent achieved already beyond reconnecting with the world, no social life or family, though these things themselves dont necessarily make a man who he is (and id never judge somebodies worth by the lifestyle they share with the world) but they are a sign of a wasted life, i have no idea who i even am anymore.

>Have you talked to any of the femanons in the fembot threads?
yes, the deluge of shit they receive has conditioned them into seeing all the bots on here as the same spergy clingy person, they are difficult to reach and the couple of times i have spoken to one of them for more than a handful of posts, asking questions like 'what could a guy do in x or y situation?' has revealed themselves to be just as disillusioned with the whole relationship topic, especially once they get on discord and have 10+ men all at once pouring their life stories into them thinking they are soul mates.

>I'll be honest I wasn't going to go this route and you're currently courting that 24 year old, as you should, but I am female (though it's not like that matters). Not sure if inappropriate but would you like to talk off this thread about some of these issues? Not trying to imply anything with that statement. Could be cathartic.
yeah we can do that, i wouldnt say im especially invested in this 24 year old girl, i met her yesterday and had one meal with her, if anything i was just testing myself to see if it was even possible for me to pull off a whole evening 1on1 with somebody.
send me some contact here [email protected] if you want to talk, id be curious as to what your experience is given you said earlier you fear going the same route.

Hi user, I also had a fucked up childhood but I am still young and still live in this toxic environment. What was the event that changed your life from your shitty situation (for bad or for good), was it university or maybe later your job?

>It keeps you from blowing your load. For like, however long.
so how are you supposed to take it off? is the strategy to get her to orgasm first, then hope for re-entry and take it off before?

Also if I have to be honest user ure exactly what I am scared of becoming later in life I dont want to feel empty and shallow I dont want to suffer anymore I am still here trying to be someone I am not cause I think thats the only way to feel normal and hopefully also getting out of this shit If thats how Ill end up to be then no thanks I want to stop it here Should I start to be honest with my friends I am sure they will start to pity me and call the police or some shit tho

>What was the event that changed your life from your shitty situation (for bad or for good), was it university or maybe later your job?
I left home at 16, finished high school living out of a hostel and moved on to university in a new city at 17 where things got better.
it should be noted that things never actually got that much better, it was just easier to cover up a shitty past when nobody around me knew a thing about me, which meant day to day life was straight forward.
ive never gotten to the point of opening up to others irl as the rest of the thread shows

>my friends I am sure they will start to pity me and call the police or some shit tho
they might depending on how much you dump on them at once.
when somebody asks you how you are next time, dont just say 'fine', be honest and say 'complete shit', ive done this a few times lately and youll find others begin to unravel a few of their own barriers.
try and keep it appropriate, ive been super reserved and maybe couldve said more, you need to read others around you.

Thanks user, I guess its too late now for that but thanks. I already isolated myself, i need to go to uni and now I depend completely from my parents. Ive always wished to get out of here and live my own life but I am too pathetic and coward to do that. I admire your courage.

>Ive always wished to get out of here and live my own life
itll be forced on you eventually.
im not the person to ask advice for on this one, as ive no idea if ignoring the past or embracing it is the right move but what i will say is that anyone who opens up to you and wants your attention, you have to give them a chance when it comes.
which it will for the next few years in university

Thats what I hope for. University will be my life changing event. If that wont save me from my family then nothing will. Thanks

im sure youre aware but itll take effort on your part also, you cant sit on the sidelines waiting or youll turn into a 36 year old scared to fuck some 24yo qt throwing herself at you

I am still 18, also a female and thats probably one main limit that ive always hated. I know I cant live passively, waiting for a miracle or something, but being a female and trying to change my situation with such a mysoginistic upbringing is difficult asf.

>but being a female and trying to change my situation with such a mysoginistic upbringing is difficult asf.
when you get to my age, you start to see a lot of the women who grew up in pretty mysoginist households completely blowing up, as they have spent the last 15+ years trying to prove themselves to the world. could be in the academic world, careers, fucking 100 men to find the right one etc.
often they achieve the things they want with this drive, thinking it will show everyone that they are better than those who cared for them growing up thought they were, yet often the issues they thought they were fixing through proving themselves to the world, remain unresolved.
once they hit 30+, they start to see all the younger women either achieving more or settling down into long term relationships that they have passed over, getting triggered everytime somebody treats them like 'just a woman' pushes them to do even more work and even further away from the happy lives those younger than them are living.

as you get older you should keep this in mind, that all the risks and work you put in over the coming years may end up being for nothing, letting go and starting again would have saved some of the women ive known over the years from going totally insane.