Why are you "nice" instead of being sweet and thoughtful and compassionate?
You should be befriending people for the sake if befriending people not to look for a partner. Actual kind and loving guys only ever become interested in a small percentage of the people they're friends with.
That's how regular people often start reIationships. They meet people through friends or find they get along weII with someone new and they became friends and later develop mutual feelings. If you have ulterior motives like a creepy nice guy loser, of course women will detect that and suspect the friendship is a ploy. It's normal not to develop feelings for people unless you feel like you've talked to them a lot and that spark grew totally organically out of a platonic relationship, and it's only for a small percentage of those people.
For people who aren't purely interested in casual hookups, this is pretty close to how most people act in the real world. You befriend someone at work or in class, find you have things in common and are on the same wavelength, and maybe develop mutual feelings. Here it's just different media like imageboards and Discord or whatever.
If you don't seek relationships out, and you let them just kind of naturally happen spontaneously if someone and you get along well and talk a lot, and you don't want or expect a friendship to turn romantic, you've got it made. The nice guy stereotype is pretending to act like that while internally doing the opposite.
I find this post quite accurate. Instead of yearning for a gf, I think most of you should focus on finding happiness in yourself and with your friends.
Landon Morgan
There's a lot of pointless nitpicking over what exactly the word "nice" means. All it communicates to me is that one side really, really wants "nice" to mean something else because they can't find it within them to claim outright that they don't reject nice guys.
Oliver Davis
I'm tired of arguing against this clusterfuck of a message. People are going to think whatever they want to.
This is also a really good post. 'Nice' has become a dirty word during the 2010s. So much ridiculous mental gymnastics in that Facebook post to make 'nice' as impotent and meaningless a word as possible.
Adam Bell
Who the fuck claims to be a nice guy? I want a girlfriend, not a girl friend. Women know this, they're just coping. "Nice guys" are a meme made up by women who refuse to acknowledge the existence of an ugly guys advances. THEY want it to be "just friendship". They refuse to accept that the guy is pursuing her openly, and claim that he's being deceptive or "nice", as if he's pretending.
Anthony Perry
She's almost right. Women want a guy who is sexually attractive, and women, like men, are attracted to the physical. They just don't want to admit/don't realize it.
Jack Rogers
friendly reminder: "women are a result of success"
Kayden Ward
>They meet people through friends or find they get along weII with someone new and they became friends and later develop mutual feelings. If you have ulterior motives like a creepy nice guy loser, of course women will detect that and suspect the friendship is a ploy. If you feel that way about a girl who doesn't feel that way about you you are a creepy loser and should kill yourself.
Andrew Adams
>Why are you "nice" instead of being sweet and thoughtful and compassionate? But thats exactly what being nice is! The so often rejected nice guys are just sweet thoughtfull and compassionate guys who are just too ugly
Jack Kelly
Nice is NOT the bare minimum. When nice guys complain about not finding acceptance, they are complaining that men who are much less than nice get much more sexual success than they do.
slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/ >- I had a patient, let's call him 'Henry' for reasons that are to become clear, who came to hospital after being picked up for police for beating up his fifth wife. >So I asked the obvious question: "What happened to your first four wives?" >"Oh," said the patient, "Domestic violence issues. Two of them left me. One of them I got put in jail, and she'd moved on once I got out. One I just grew tired of." >"You've beaten up all five of your wives?" I asked in disbelief. >"Yeah," he said, without sounding very apologetic. >"And why, exactly, were you beating your wife this time?" I asked. >"She was yelling at me, because I was cheating on her with one of my exes." >"With your ex-wife? One of the ones you beat up?" >"Yeah." >"So you beat up your wife, she left you, you married someone else, and then she came back and had an affair on the side with you?" I asked him. >"Yeah," said Henry. ---- >Compared with virgins, men with more sexual experience are likely to drink more alcohol, attend church less, and have a criminal history. >Dr. Beaver was able to predict number of sexual partners pretty well using a scale with such delightful items as "have you been in a gang", "have you used a weapon in a fight", et cetera. >An analysis of the psychometric Big Five consistently find that high levels of disagreeableness predict high sexual success in both men and women.
This woman should just admit that niceness is not even a minimum, and that it has NOTHING TO DO with sexual success. It's not even a prerequisite. If anything, it hurts your chances.
Blake Reyes
>it's this thread again At least get some new bait OP, I can't work with this material
If you're happy that way, then that's fine, but if you aren't, maybe focus on making some without being obsessed over it?
Kevin Myers
Ironically, if nice is the minimum she doesn't even have that
Owen Collins
It is not the default for everyone. Women just want someone who is nice as the default. So that sucks for you, user
Dylan Thomas
Women don't like nice guys because they aren't nice themselves, and nice guys make them feel bad about what a shit person they are
Jose Cook
Most women I know are very nice persons
Jose Thomas
Women aren't a single entity, shill
Jonathan Diaz
It isn't that difficult to understand. People don't want to enter relationships with people that act "nice" out of obligation. Those same people tend to lash out at any other guy that they perceive as a threat, which screams insecurity
Juan Garcia
I am speaking for my sex thank you
Julian James
ew, a manly thinker
Jordan Butler
>Those same people tend to lash out at any other guy that they perceive as a threat That's the exact same thing "alpha" does though, you've never seen them act like retards to put "betas" in their place when there's a chick around?
Women are always telling us what NOT to do. What should we do?
Andrew Price
>You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it. Only then will you be attractive to the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible. >You just have to LIKE yourself. guess i'll just fucking kill myself then
So... meet girls and fuck them shortly afterward? I think you're kind of putting the cart before the horse, user. Surely you know most guys on here wouldn't know where to begin with advice like that?
Elijah Cook
"Nice" and "asshole" are opposites. "Nice" isn't the median. Be attractive, retard.
Women only want that list of traits in someone they also want to fuck, as a bonus.
What they want is physical appearance, status and flirting ability.
No girl is attracted to someone funny/witty/sweet if they're also ugly/poor/can't flirt. Someone like that is called a friend at best.
They will though fuck someone who is hot, rich and flirtatious but not sweet/thoughtful/compassionate.
It doesn't matter what shit they say, they're lying to make themselves feel better and not appear shallow. The proof is in their acts not their words. No ugly guy got laid in a bar for being thoughtful. Plenty of handsome guys get laid without hardly saying anything.
Parker Parker
I always end up dissapointed by people so I just stopped befriending.
Brayden Johnson
But "nice guys" are manipulative assholes. Every single one.
Jonathan King
>An analysis of the psychometric Big Five consistently find that high levels of disagreeableness predict high sexual success in both men and women. And this probably means different things for both men and women, since women are the selectors in sexual success. For men, it means that disagreeable men are more attractive to women. For women, it just means that disagreeable women are more promiscuous.
Eli Martinez
Not true at all seen some nice lads with bad luck. Some of them just can't deal with this stuff and turn to more radical stuff.
Hunter Sullivan
No. Every last "nice guy" is a piece of shit.
Colton Martin
I can't even befriend people normally because I'm depressed as hell and lead a dull life
Elijah Wilson
"niceness" is an achievement because men have been conditioned over several thousand motherfucking years to be "nice", we didn't kill off most of the murdering and law rejecting population only for women to hate the quality of man that emerged from this genocide of violent and asshole men.
If she wants assholes, she is free to go to fucking SOMALIA to see a society RUN AND BRED for assholes and see if her dumbfuck "personality" saves her from being raped and enslaved/killed because we dont have time for retarded whores like these.
courteousness is not baseline it takes a smidge more effort to do stuff like say please, thank you, and hold the door for people
Chase Jenkins
that tattoo tho
Benjamin Walker
Do I'm not allowed to want a relationship to flourish into love? And I'm being deceptive and creepy if I treat someone I want a close relationship with better than someone I don't? And the only way it'll ever happen is if I find them while I'm out with friends and the such?
Well that's some retarded horseshit. Whatever. Any dudes willing toss on a skirt, shave their legs and take it up the ass? Can't deal with women or relationships anymore.
Logan Hall
No, because then women would want ""nice"" guys
Jose Powell
>And I'm being deceptive and creepy if I treat someone I want a close relationship with better than someone I don't? No, that's fine, just don't expect pussy out of it.
Ayden Scott
I am sweet and thoughtful and compassionate which is what makes me "nice"
Women twist chad's actions into being sweet or thoughtful or compassionate when they are anything but.
Parker Diaz
>you're not supposed to treat people you like better than people you don't like It's not like I'm putting her on a pedastal, I'm just very much a flexable and considerate person, but that comes off as weird and/or creepy, apparently.
Andrew Ross
"Sweet" and "compassionate" are literally synonyms of "nice" I don't understand this at all
Michael Lopez
"Nice" in this case refers to guys that are actually assholes but treat women kindly expecting them to give them the sex. They think it's like a transation: 20 nice things done = 1 sex. They think that is all it takes, or should be all it takes, to have women flock to you.
Colton Perez
i dont give a fuck about what women think anymore,so im ok being how i am
Easton Fisher
I've treated women nicely and they've treated me like trash. I treat them like trash and they treat me like a king to an obsessive degree. Women are illogical and I can't be damned dealing with such retarded creatures. Women fundamentally want to be abused and be controlled but society tells them otherwise so they put up this facade and go on about all this bullshit until a man breaks through the conditioning. In this hypergamy society women are nothing but holes, they designed it this way and upkeep it. Treat them likewise and you'll have success. I'm bitter not because I can't have sex but because I can easily, what's the point? These braindead fucking whores who open their legs so easily, it pisses me off.
The thing about chasing hedonism is that it always has a comedown
Evan Peterson
Why are you like that? No one likes a pussy.
John Russell
That's a long winded way of saying "nice" is on par with a domesticated animal so why should they pup with you when they could just get a puppy?
>just gime me your resources >I need to buy more makeup and close fitting dresses to attract Chad >give me more attention >do what I say, other I'll accuse you of being human and wanting to have relationships with others All women are whores, either for good good genes or immediate access to readily available resources. I intend on never helping another female again, and I look forward to the coming great cleansing.
Brandon Gomez
How does that make me a pussy?
Isaac Price
Wtf.
What woman wants some faggot bitch boy who is "sweet"?
Women want a man who will choke them, pin them to the wall and fuck their lights out and then kill anyone who looks at her after.
Anthony Ross
I've have sex with a girl who called me sweet, I think the spoiled girls want the guys who treat them like dirt but the ones who have had tough lives want someone who can give them a respite from all the craziness.
Dylan Long
nice argument you retarded fuckin rostie
Aaron Price
Everything is true.
How are you living life post-hedonism?
Jason Ortiz
>You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it. Only then will you be attractive to the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible Translating: You have to develop yourself enough so you're valuable to us and we can take something from you
Thomas Russell
IF HE DID THAT WOMEN WOULD NOT RESPOND AND HE MIGHT EVEN BE LABELLED A "CREEP" TRYING TO MOLEST HER
Isaiah Cox
No guy on earth thinks like this it says a lot about women when they're literally only projecting by saying that
Brandon Bell
When you're nice with chad aren't you doing the same fucking thing you stupid roastie?
Dominic Jackson
This image is god tier
Leo Gonzalez
If women like nice guys, how come thugs and felons are never incels? Really makes you think
Daniel Gray
>the ones who have had tough lives want someone who can give them a respite from all the craziness. Wrong.
Liam Morales
No literally everyone does that. It's not a personality.
Ryan Williams
Who said anyone takes it for granted?
They do retard
Noah Hall
Who said it's an argument? It's basic facts.
Evan Campbell
This is what the nice guy stereotype is friend. New to the internet?
Jace Bell
Go to bar. Pick up girl. Take her home and fuck her at closing time. Start dating. This is how you get laid and find gf irl.
>He met me when I worked at a Hooters in my hometown when I was a senior in high school. He became obsessed with me ever since.. but I mean he was pretty sweet at first (in my naive eyes) and admittedly back then I was insecure and liked male attention. So I became his friend even though he was older, I guess the thrill of that was fun or something for me.
>Ok fast forward to one hear like 3 years ago when I broke up with my college long term boyfriend and was going through a roughhhh patch. I made the mistake of having phone sex with this dude. I was feeling self destructive and lonely and shit. And yeah that was my fault but he took that to mean way more than it did. He became downright obsessed after that. I had moved back to Chicago to work and do post-graduate school after college and so I visited him to hang as FRIENDS and play video games a few times and he became really clingy.
Angel Turner
Where's the lie in all of this? She's right, if you believe otherwise you're a degenerate
Jayden Cox
If women like assholes who treat them like shit, why don't incels get women? Really makes you think
Alexander Hall
>being sweet and thoughtful and compassionate >this is not the same as being nice for women ?????
Isaac Powell
I've been spending all my attribute points on strength and intelligence, not romance >feelsbagman
Noah Cox
No wonder you sound so retarded, you are a female after all.
Ryder Nelson
god she has no idea of the mixed signals she's putting out, dumb cunt >Oh he's so creepy and forceful! >But i'm gonna keep giving him attention and hang around him!
