Don't be a beta

We have hit a new low.

A combo of disgust and humor. Mostly kekking at that pic rn tho

he is hopeful

he is a manlet, and she is not into mantets
he can't accept this simple fact

this yo, just because you're an incel doesn't mean you can't have some dignity, and a huge chunk of the dudes here have zero dignity and beg like dogs when ''femanons'' show up in a thread, it's really pathetic.

He is grooming her,he is just playing the long game

I like how we're so o sessed with beta cucks that we miss that this is probably the reality of the situation. Damn women are dumb as fuck, do you really think he's taking care of your kid for free because he's got nothing better to do?

Lmao, who wants to play"spot the roastie"

Do you ever think that perhaps its not being beta that drives this, but rather that he feels sorry for the child and knows that without a father figure the kid is never going to have a chance and just end up making the same mistakes. Don't get me wrong the mother is a trash person but that's not a reason the child should suffer.

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he's dicking the little girl

You have to take into context that this dude wasn't born a worthless cuck. He had to have been abused or fucked with mentally in his youth enough to make him hate himself to such an insane degree that he would debase himself like this. He is an adult, which means he's responsible, but it's still sad.

Doing this only continues the cycle. If I was a bastard child, and I was raised by some worthless self hating loser, the message it would send to me is to not bother taking care of the kid if I knocked the girl up, because some chump would eventually come and pick up the tab for me.

Spotted a subhuman.

i orbited a girl once in high school. never doing that again. i dont know why guys keep doing that over and over again. it just makes you feel like shit

Projection the thread.

Imagine being a schizo lol

this is most likely the case. he's probably raising the loli to eventually be his perfect waifu, and it seems the mother is extremely dumb as fuck to not realize this is what's going on. he's a horny young dude, no way he's raising someone else's kid getting absolutely nothing in return.

Sup roastie toasties

dude, he's hot....fuck that girl, breed me instead

Dafuq? He's gotta be fucking the little girl-in Minecraft of course.
Really he's a pretty boy and a lot of grils go for that so there's no other explanation.

What the fuck is this next level friendzoning?

WHAT THE FUCK

Had a chick I really liked attempt to make me an orbiter. I confessed my feelings for her, she said no, and I moved on. She was upset that I didn't want to just he friends with her, but apparently she's friend with all her exes as well. I don't play that game.

Look at his height. He's the same height in boots as the girl in sandals. He probably preps the bull and gets filled up at the interracial breeding grounds

The quintessential mindset of a female summed up nestly in one sentence. Truly awe inspiring.

honestly this is why OPs pic just makes me sad, rather than disgusted. like look at how his bangs are in his face in every pic, it suggests insecurity/awkwardness. like I get that this is probably just a giant cope so he doesn't feel utterly alone, but damn this whole thing reeks of exploitation.

It is even worse. He doesn't even get anything. Most women at least pretend to like you for your resources. Now you must give it up for free because they say so.

I've orbited someone once. I was intensely infatuated with them. I imagine that's why some people keep doing it over and over again - they're limerents

yup, what are you gonna do about it?

>close to females
>literally raising someone else's child
it'd be weird if they were all skeptical of something innocuous like platonic male/female relationships, but this honestly is pretty absurd.

Same as I have been. Work, fuck on the side, never get married. I don't have to go out of my way to try and make a difference because you damage yourself.

I dont think he is hoping to get laid with the roastie but more like she is a friend that needs help and since he doesn't want to abandon her (probably cuz he is an idiot or feels sorry for the kid) he plays along with the "if she let's me fuck good, if not it's fine too" attitude. Or he is dicking the little girl

nice little tits on her tho not gonna lie

wtf they both look like they are barely 5 feet tall

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>t. bankrupt faggot who gave all his money to buy bath water and get noticed by twitch whores, fantasizing about not being a bankrupt faggot

then why even reply

Beta? This guy is living the dream. I would love to have my own cunny who I can play with without being involved with some used good roastie

Because you're a fucking whore and I'll let you know that.

>Hosanna
>Sloan
the absolute state of white people
dont people even google a name? the dudes named after a toilet.

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damn he's makin assumptions again

I try my hardest to never orbit, i always make my interactions with girls as short and unremarkable as possible so they can't think im into then.

If a girl fishes for compliments or tries to get me to do something i always reply in the most unpleasant way possible. This girl was whining about this zit on her nose and how she couldn't be seen outside with it and i just said something like
"No one will notice, the rest of you is ugly enough"
Or if someone tries to make me get them something "no. Besides you could use burning those calories anyways"

I'll most defenitely die alone but at least it's on my own terms and i have a sliver of dignity intact. Better this than being some cucked lapdog that still doesn't get laid

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her tits are smaller than her giant rectangle torso wtf are you on about

>He's hot, breed me
>It's an assumption I'm a whore
I'll stick with my assumption, thanks.

I feel like this is symbolic of his plight

wait can you degrade me more? i'm schlicking to this convo

Because he's not looking for sex, dumbass?

He is giving a child a much needed father figure and helping out a single mother, if anything this guy is free, unbound from the chains of carnal lust that weight down on us.

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how do they react when you do this? aren't you nervous about conflict like that? I get ignoring them, but outright insulting anyone (guy or girl) is ballsy as fuck. Do you seriously do this? I kind of wish I could do this without giving a shit about looking autistic.

Show me your wet hole and I'll even let you contact me in private.

I think the (reasonable) implication is that if he really was 'free from the chains of carnal lust' he wouldn't be raising some random thot's kid. There's no incentive to do so - like hanging out with them might make sense if he's just friends with her, but literally co-parenting is a huge investment, which suggests he's just orbiting her.

>Defending this behavior
It's on the mother to make sure her child is born to a man that will father her children, not some random guy to take over the position because he wants to fuck her.

They just laugh and overreact on purpouse mostly "oh my god user you're so meaaaan". I try to make it a bit jokey so they won't report me to anyone, besides im kinda infamous for just saying ridiculous shit.

I just don't care what girls think about me cause it's not like they'll pay me any mind in either way.

Why be mean about it though? Just be stoic

I think you guys underestimate how sex is seen by some girls. Yes, being close friends with a girl does mean you might have sex a few times when youre both horny. These two probably fuck once or twice every few months out of boredom or horniness, but it's not the main factor in whatever they have going on between them. The guy is probably grooming the girm and that's the main appeal for him. Or maybe the infrequent sex is the main appeal for him. Who knows. It's definitely not the main appeal for the girl.

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He probably likes the kid a lot and saw that she struggled. It's a very empathetic, altruistic choice to help raise her.

have you ever developed feelings for someone against your will? if so, how did you get rid of them? if not, you're really fucking lucky. i think people who orbit just develop feelings really easily and can't gain control over them - it's what makes the whole thing seem pathetic and depressing.
I think one benefit of being mean is that it might get them to stop talking to you, which lowers the chances of you getting oneitis

by that logic he should just adopt a child. there are plenty of kids out there who are suffering due to the poor choices of their parents or due to just bad luck - why her's in particular?

A whole lot of projection going on there user.

I already answered this question. Because he knows the kid and is fond of her. They most likely have a personal bond, as evidenced by the fact her mother refers to him as the girl's father.

lmao my dude just lmao. he is diddling that kid. it's the bnb play for pedos. get close to single moms, get access to the brats. and this dude won the pedo lottery because he doesn't even have to pretend to be sexually attracted to the mom.

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No, it's a very degrading, selfish thing to help her. He wants the pussy, the child just happens to be there.

My friend is like this. He knew this girl, and one day told me he was going to look after her kids for her. Take them to the park and stuff. He said it would show her that he is good guy, not a fuckboi, and was mature or some crap. I told him while he's looking after her kids she'd be off fucking some other dude lol.

He also had this attitude with this girl at his work, who had a kid too. He always wanted to show her that he respects her and her kid, very good to her, asks for permission to cuddle her and crap. I told him he was dumb. Anyway after months of respecting her and getting nowhere but once cuddling her in the evening, she ended up hooking up with a guy at work. Then she stopped speaking to him suddenly. I got it out of him he insulted her randomly. So the typical nice guy, doesn't get the girl, calls her a slutty bitch.

have you ever met a child? they aren't that remarkable - in fact when they're that young they kind of act just like every other child. it makes no sense that they'd have THIS strong a bond unless he was her biological dad or unless he was diddling her. the former is impossible, the latter seems unlikely

Some people like kids more than anti-social shut-ins on r9k. Big shocker.

He doesn't give a fuck about the kid, he's desperate for the pussy.

You can of course continue to think that. No one will stop you, especially not here. However, the girl's mother seems to think otherwise.

I see cute and interessting girls all the time that i'd love to date thing is i know none of them would reciprocate so i just stay-away.
I've never like been in-love with anyone but that's probably because i've never interacted with a girl long enough, just stop spending time with girls and the problem solves itself. Or do you like "develop feelings" for chicks as soon as you talk to them? I'd assume you have to know them first.
Other guy hit the nail on the head, i wanna make sure they really get that im not interessted in the slightest.

The girl's mother is also fully content to take advantage of any situation that results in her benefitting. Not having a man would mean her quality of life drops significantly, but since she knows she doesn't have to give up the puss to keep his sorry ass around, she'll take it.

I'm kind of fucked - I have no idea how this happened, but I'm massively into my supervisor. She's a researcher at this university, and my career sort of depends on her (she's reasonably influential and constantly pulls me favours, she managed to get me this scholarship I never even applied for etc.) so I can't really just stay away. She's a bit of an extroverted narcissist, so I think she gets off on complimenting me and then ghosting my emails. I'm a regular sperg (can't talk to people, social vulnerabilities written on my face etc.) so I think she can tell I'd fall for these stupid hot-and-cold tactics really easily. In any case, the main point is that I'm trying my very best not to orbit her or to find some alternative supervisor, but part of me is freaked out that if I genuinely stay away I'll fuck my career or have to change its trajectory/my research interests solely to avoid this stupid cunt.

At this point, I only ask myself why you're so desperate to prove your dismal worldview. I can't verify nor falsify either of our claims, but people are capable of incredible emotional complexity. I'd rather take their words at face value, and in the light of the mother's strong emotional expression and the high investment in this situation (on both ends, she is entrusting his child with another man), I also find it more likely.

>At this point, I only ask myself why you're so desperate to prove your dismal worldview.
I'm the original person you were replying to (i.e. ), but not . I think it just looks like we're desperate to defend this worldview because a bunch of us are dogpiling you, so it looks like one long argument instead of a bunch of people replying, if that makes sense. I think everyone on here (including me) feels the need to disagree with you just because it seems kind of absurd that someone would genuinely throw away their life like that just because they like a child (so absurd at first I thought you were just trolling).

For a bad spot it sounds hot as fuck. I Don't sacrifice your career though, just try and keep it professional, only talk to her when it's realated to your studies etc.

Good luck man, my only talent is not talking to the girls in the first place.

Think what you want, man. He's a pathetic beta cuckold and she's a whore taking advantage of that. More people would be inclined to agree with me rather than you, I wager.

Haha, you are dogpiling me for defending a man who selflessly raises another's child? Isn't that actually a bit absurd? You guys do realize you would be torn to shreds off the internet, right?

(same person as this time) also, I think most of us would assume that the mother tends to make high investments cavalierly, given that the biological dad isn't in the picture (admittedly, that largely isn't her fault at all and this whole situation should be blamed on the biological dad who wasn't moral or responsible enough to stay with his kid).

we aren't (or at least I'm not) saying anything inflammatory towards the guy that warrants defending though. I feel bad for him, and I think part of the reason a lot of people have strong feelings about this is because they see themselves in him. He's being emotionally exploited and that's what makes orbiting so fundamentally sad.

He's a grown man. I don't reckon he needs any pity for the decision to raise a child he appears to genuinely love.

When confronted by multiple people saying you're wrong, you cower and call it dogpiling. Your naive worldview is frankly disgusting. And for the record, I share my thoughts on matters like these with my friends and coworkers quite often. They agree with me 90% of the time as well.

>a man who selflessly raises another's child?
>Isn't that actually a bit absurd?
Yes

I didn't call it dogpiling. That was

being a "grown man" doesn't mean anything. people use the same kind of arguments to justify exploitative practices in porn (i.e. "it's ok that she's on facial abuse - she's a grown woman and that's her decision!") while utterly disregarding whether the decision was made fully autonomously or whether it was the product of internalized oppression. it's the same deal here - adults are fully capable of being exploited, and OPs pic reeks of that. unquestioningly assuming that he made the decision as a fully confident and emotionally healthy person is morally lazy

Doesn't matter. My point remains valid. You're disgustingly naive.

Hm, that analogy doesn't really work out. In porn, there's often violence in play. Falling into a pimp's trap definitely isn't the same as raising a woman's child.

this and any other similar opinion itt just shows how devoid of humanity you all are, treating both the mother and her child like some objects.

>Falling into a pimp's trap definitely isn't the same as raising a woman's child.
LOL!
LMAO!

If you want to "lose your carnal behavior," that's fine. Doesn't mean you have to raise some slut's kid. Same for friendship.

Would you happen to be a single mother yourself?

The mother only has herself to blame for bearing that child with a man that wouldn't stuck around, and it's no one else's duty to raise the bastard, either.

Based quad, empathy is for women

I had the same thought, I wonder if this valiant defender of the whore and her beta provider is a single mother as well.

except it does work. yes there's violence, but there are also subtler forms of oppression that lead women to work in porn (i.e. being constantly objectified and being told that your worth depends on your sex appeal, mental illness and emotional insecurities that get temporarily relieved by the attention offered by the porn industry, etc.). it's the same deal here. obviously nobody's holding him at gunpoint, but it's very likely that he's emotionally insecure, that doesn't value himself, and that he's just fundamentally lonely. this woman is either just conveniently oblivious to this, or on some level is aware of this and is exploiting these insecurities by either intentionally or unintentionally offering up the prospect of getting with her if he raises her kid long enough. even if it isn't done maliciously, the point is that it's sad that his insecurities led him to this state.

Yeah, could be true, but it's inconclusive since we don't have details about the situation. From our point of view, it's just as likely - more so in my opinion - that he made the decision to help raise the kid with no pressure from her.

Why are you adding blame into this? None of the people involved in the actual situation are complaining. Only you bitter people making up things because of your deluded views.

You're the only deluded one. Are you a single mother? Answer that question.

It's your choice to keep dooming your own mind and no, I'm not.