How does something like this even happen honestly?

How does something like this even happen honestly?

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have you tried not being a retard?

a popular question, it seems.

He's a cool guy to be around. Women are more attracted to vibes, personalities and behaviors than looks. Again and again we say this and again and again, robots are given proof but you all refuse to believe it because that would mean that you have to take responsibility and you no longer pretend your looks are what's holding you back.

And because you refuse to accept the truth, you choose to cope by saying these guys are paying these women to be around them. Take responsibility for once.

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lol wasn't that kid gay?

>expecting any autist here to take responsibility
lol, yeah. No. It's not gonna happen. I agree with everything you said though. I'm literally a disgusting looking manlet with a skullet. I get more pussy than a toilet seat. There's no excuse, but somehow they find one.

based

>origonallla

the truth is that personality is also about as immutable as looks

It really isn't, but keep coping.

This board really has just become reddit 2.0 at this point.

I can only believe it is this. He must have high social status.

>they're just around him because he's gay lol
More cope.

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>you aren't a delusional cynic who makes excuses for himself
>you belong on reddit

>take responsibility and you no longer pretend your looks are what's holding you back.
Sort of true. However, I think that the kind of 'personalities' we have (i.e. talents and abilities) are not entirely our doing. Some people are just naturally skilled at the art of conversation and are instinctively very funny. Some people give off aggressive vibes; some people give off weak vibes.
I agree with you that the main problem a lot of incels and robots have is that they lack charisma, and this is only exacerbated by looks, but not defined by it.

Bullshit. This only happens if you're like rich or something. You either have looks or you have money and I don't have much of either.

>Some people are just naturally skilled at the art of conversation and are instinctively very funny. Some people give off aggressive vibes; some people give off weak vibes
The best part about this though is that you can change these things about yourself. It's a bit of work but it's possible. If you're not naturally a funny guy, you can learn. If you're not good at conversation, you can learn. You can learn to give off a more aggressive or assertive vibe.

A lot of robots refuse to change themselves though because they see the concept of presenting yourself in a more attractive way to be fake and people-pleasing. It's likely just another excuse to not try.

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it's a class thing... white trash people seem to find partners really easily regardless of their looks

People only like people with those traits if they look like they should have them, people absolutely despite ugly people who try to be confident because they see it as lacking self awareness in a sort of "what do you have to be confident about your ugly fuck" kind of way

go back cringe retard

I can tell just by his fucking grin that this guy radiates charisma. He's probably funny as fuck, too.

How surprising, another cope. You've never even tried being anything other than an anxiety ridden ball of negativity have you? You've never tried to be interesting or cool or fun. You've never made an attempt to make who you are as a person more attractive.
>b-b-but Chad doesn't have to do this!!
>Chad doesn't have to be funny or interesting!
You're not chad, brother. I don't know what to tell you. Ugly and average guys have to depend on who we are as people to get pussy.

Not true at all. People hate arrogance and over confidence from ugly people. But genuine confidence is attractive in everyone.

He's rich, obviously.

People think any confidence from ugly people is over confidence.

I am what I am. In less than a year from now I'll be 30 and I've already resolved myself to a life of solitude spent in front of my computer all day.

>How does something like this even happen honestly?

Unironically, personality.

Assuming you aren't severely deformed, if you have a really great personality girls clearly out of your league will settle for you.

That's not true user. You're coping again. You've never had confidence or charisma so how would you know?

I'm not coping, I've literally seen it for myself. I've seen ugly dudes try to act like confident people and watched everyone grow to hate them because of it.

Then your coping is more understandable. You feel hopeless and any thoughts of reality do nothing but remind you of the years you wasted and continue to waste.

The fact still remains. Unless you're cartoonishly ugly or you have some serious mental issues, you can get pussy. You may not get laid like a rockstar but you're not doomed to be alone.

Yeah because people don't like it when you change on them. People like to put you in your little box and they try to kick you back into it if you ever try to come out. People hate change. But strangers will be more accepting of your new personality.

Youree cherry picking your data points. Look at that ugly piece of shit kid getting more pussy then you because of his charisma

That's a trap. Plain and simple

>modern dating standards are so skewed that a sorta-ugly dork dating a curveless androgynous "girl" is considered unrealistic

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I'm legitimately decent looking 6'2, good jawline, tanned, dark eyes etc. I see girls looking at me and smiling when I walk past, I see girls stare at me on PT, I have an 8 inch dick. I'm not chad good looking but at least a solid 6-7/10
My problem is i'm a massive fucking socially autistic retarded piece of shit, I have pretty much no charisma, I'm depressed, socially anxious so I overthink everything and say the most retarded shit. Girls will say something kind of stupid on a date but no harm and I will just straight up go to town correcting her.

I've learned that looks do matter, but you need to be a serious like 8-10 for it to override everything else, for everyone else, I honestly believe that
1. Confidence
2. Charisma
3. Charm

Make up about 80% of getting into a girls pants. I see little fucking goblin manlets fucking girls way out of their league all the time, yet here is me 6'2 borderline chad and I haven't been laid in years.
Also yes I match a lot on Tinder, but again, autistic retard so girls sniff that out in 10 minutes and unmatch.

This is the fucking truth, people arent wrong that looks are an advantage but chicks would rather fuck the weird looking guy who is a good time than the 9/10 who happens to have the personality of a rock (unless he is famous). I understand why people here deny it but it only took me getting serious about self improvement to find out the truth for myself, but of course thats a meme too according to this place.

FUCK your anecdotal evidences retards ugly males dont get pussy

29 years of experience tells me otherwise. I have absolutely no reason to believe my situation could improve if I just believe hard enough and faked some confidence. Some people are just too far gone.

I refuse to believe this. I mean yes personality and such can go a ways but if you're ugly you're ugly. Kinda fucked. Unless you wear makeup or shit but the objective is a GIRLfriend so.

>I see little fucking goblin manlets fucking girls way out of their league all the time
Where?

Not the user you're conversing with but you're under the wrong impression, confidence isnt something you can fake effectively, women (and men) will sniff that out, the entire point is that you're supposed to build real confidence through improvement and experience, thats what people really mean when they tell you to just bee yourself.

Confidence/Charisma/Charm are the exact same thing retard, and it doesn't even help much. I'm confident charismatic manlet who faces rejection all the time and I haven't even managed to get a date in 5 years and am still a virgin.
Chances are you're just an oblivious autist who has no idea when a woman is flirting with you.

Go to any Uni or normie nightclubs and you see slimy little goblins with girls way out of their league, they're not nerds, but they're nowhere above a 3/10

>Women are more attracted to vibes, personalities and behaviors than looks.
This is a damn lie.
It'll never stop being a damn lie.

>Chances are you're just an oblivious autist who has no idea when a woman is flirting with you.
I mean I pretty much said that. Looks don't mean shit when you have no game to back them up. Guys have no problem fucking dumb retarded women, but women want some sort of game behind the looks.

>Go to any Uni or normie nightclubs and you see slimy little goblins with girls way out of their league
No you fucking won't lmao

If you're ugly, you're ugly sure. But women are less into looks than men are. I know this is hard for you to believe it comprehend but it's true. That's why women tend to not be into porn, and when they are, they're masturbating to lesbians and animals and shit like that. They're not turned on by the visual, they're turned on by the sexuality of it. Women enjoy being mentally or emotionally stimulated, while men like visual stimulation.

All you have to do is turn a woman on mentally. And you do that through charm, charisma, personality, masculine behaviors, some form of social status, etc.

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Go to Texas or California and you'll see short Mexican guys with 8/10 Latinas.

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based.
Women can also sense if you're a coomer.
Women HATE coomers.
If you stop being a coomer, you gain a holy aura that women become magnetically drawn to. Nofap alone makes you 10x more attractive to women.

>But women are less into looks than men are.
Women are massively into looks, that's why you have so many with crazy height standards and shit like that.

I don't have any reason to even be confident.

>Where?
Outside your little safe space.

Become popular. Women will suddenly want to fuck you because they're attention whores.

Happens often with YouTubers. In school lame losers, became famous and being ugly creep no longer matters.

They're not that into looks. Their height standards are them bullshitting for the internet. They like guys taller than them but this "6 ft and up" thing is a meme because they think it shows off their status. Those insane standards don't exist in real life.

>Their height standards are them bullshitting for the internet.
lol fucking cope, I can tell you're some autist with no actual experience with women, get all your understanding from PUA videos on youtube.

Obviously he has a monster dong. Big ole wang.

>implying you have more control on being autistic than on having ugly face

Wrong, there's no operation for your brain. It's even worse if problem lies inside of you

>I can tell you're some autist with no actual experience with women, get all your understanding from PUA videos on youtube.
Not whomever you're replying to, but you're projecting here.

I could say the same about you. These extreme height standards didn't exist up until a few years ago. In 2014, girls were still saying that their height standard was "taller than me". If you look at the Tinder girls with these crazy standards, you'll see that they're fucking the most average guys in the world in real life. You're the one with no experience. You get your idea of sexuality from what you see on Twitter and dating sites.

>vibes, personalities and behaviors
these are highly positively correlated to looks

>These extreme height standards didn't exist up until a few years ago.
They did, things like tinder just made it more visible for men.

You nailed it. That's why I said improvement, find a reason.

If you don't have any serious mental issues, the you can become attractive. If you DO, then I don't know.

>women are less into looks than men are
You're full of shit, my man.

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Anyone who unironically believes women are more into personality than looks has clearly never been around women. That idea is something mostly pushed by the PUA community because convincing retards that women care about personality is how they make their money.

Yes the halo effect is real. But that doesn't mean that an ugly or average guy can't be charismatic and cool. Go to a night club. You'll be seething by the end because of all the guys getting pussy.

They seriously didn't user. Women are status signaling when they do this. They have these standards so they can increase their standards in the eyes of women, the same way a guy will fuck a woman he's not really into in order to impress other men.

>You'll be seething by the end because of all the guys getting pussy.
t. never actually been to a nightclub ever

>How does something like this even happen honestly?
By some men not browsing Jow Forums/reddit and honestly believing in a black-white beta-Chad dichotomy.
Just because there are attractive men that will have far more pussy in their live than anybody who talks with you - doesn't mean that not everybody without skin cancer can get laid. Talk with people even if it's painful. You'd be surprised.

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That's projection all right, I bet you think every woman wants a 10 inch dick too.

I don't know anything about PUA whatsoever. What I do know is that personality is a weight. Appearance is definitely a driving force, but personality is what captures. It doesn't do much other than that.

Nothing will change your mind. I'm not going to argue with you.

He probably has a coke can of a dick and rich parents

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user I live with a bunch of ugly ass players. They get pussy all of the time because they're hypermasculine and women think they're cool. You're the one with no experience with women. My barber is a fat balding Mexican and he's fucking nearly every mother who walks in with her kid.

I've been to many. But you refuse to accept the truth.

Improve what? Everything in my life in a frantic attempt that will end with me back at square one? You normies have no idea what it's like to live like this, you just parrot self help shit you saw on r*ddit.

You've never tried to improve your life because you assume it won't work. But if you don't want to make a change, don't do it. We're usually giving you all advice that worked for us but you dismiss it because you don't believe in yourself.

Sounds like we'd just be going in circles if we continue this discussion, one that you'll likely never break out of by the looks of it. I've been where you are and it's good to get out of the depression olympics known as Jow Forums sometimes to get some perspective.

>every women I have ever had an extended conversation with online falls in love with me
>I have never kissed a girl, no girl has talked to me irl for years and I'm 22 and go to uni

"bro it's your personality"

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It probably is your personality. I'd bet that you're a different guy online. You're probably more confident and assertive behind a screen. You're probably more comfortable being authentic with women online.

You probably hold back in real life. You're more anxious and stifled. Your voice is shakey and you go into every interaction with a woman assuming she'll hate you.

What the hell happend to this board? What is this bluepilled bullshit?

Good looks can easily compensate lots of personality flaws, however you need to have a lot of charisma, contacts and friends who will help to build positive image to compensate bad look. I think there even is a scientific paper that proved that women prefer better looks with less desireable personality traits to worse looks with perfect personality.

It is autistic to negate usefullness of personality and charisa in dating, but it is a lie to claim that thise factors are more important than looks, they not only are not as much important, but also looks are hardest quality to compensate.

nope I tell them all of my insecurities online actually. way more assertive IRL

my voice is deep af and not shaky. why would I be afraid of a girl they are like 1/5 as strong as me? dont project

women irl like extroverted Chadly alcoholic/druggie men, they like men that enjoy social media, bars, and talking about last night's football game

>It is autistic to negate usefullness of personality and charisa in dating, but it is a lie to claim that thise factors are more important than looks
No one in this entire thread said that they're more important than looks. All we're saying is that you can compensate for your looks with personality. Women are more likely to overlook your face if you're enjoyable to be around.

>women irl like extroverted Chadly alcoholic/druggie men, they like men that enjoy social media, bars, and talking about last night's football game
That's not always true but even still, that's personality, not looks.

>have my shit together
>have a good career
>supposedly ok looking
>have an active social life
>have a lot of active interests and hobbies
>breddy gud at that conversation thing
>can tell stories for days of my crazyass adventures all over the world
>always up to try something new
>assertive and confident
>can hear pussy drying up and freezing whenever I get near women
>have had women straight up tell me that they aren't attracted to me even though I supposedly tick all their boxes and they don't know why
>it just be like it do
some dudes just don't have "it" and it's weird that some people can't accept that

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'Chadly' is personality?

>women irl like extroverted Chadly alcoholic/druggie men, they like men that enjoy social media, bars, and talking about last night's football game
This is me, minus the drugs, social media, and football games. Everyone says I'm abrasive and hysterical. Online I come across as an autist. Unfortunately, I can't drink for awhile. So, I'm back at the gym religiously.

>why would I be afraid of a girl they are like 1/5 as strong as me
are you 100% sure your insecurities arent leaking irl

Possibly, depending on what you meant by that. Everything else you said is personality though.

It was said in the third comment retard

>Women are more attracted to vibes, personalities and behaviors than looks.

you aren't chadly

You just get mildly insecure when you get around women you want to fuck. You might not consciously realize it though. Tell them they have a forehead good for cooking eggs on. Who cares if they hate you?

The is the same as:
you: you're gay
me: Im not
you: ThE LaDY DoTH pRoTEST Too MuCh METHINKS, YiKes

lmao I guess getting approached and given numbers without prompting them isn't Chad now.

Nice creative writing user

please explain how that is so, you retarded twitterfag

yeah going on r9k to brag about a landwhale giving you her number is not chadly lmao, correct

>"I've known loads of ugly guys who've gotten with girls way above their league"
>"Pic related, the guys in question"

You're all probably underrating dudes and overrating the women.

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>twitter memes
holy fuck, leave and never return

>you're a faggot
that's it, you're just a faggot

he I was afraid of women, I said I wasnt because theyre not physically intimidating, and you tell me my insecurity is leaking faggot

kys

>Just be funny bro!
>Just be charismatic bruh!
>Just be confident senpai!
>Just have a good personality!
>Just be someone that you aren't!
The absolute state of normies. Kek

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