Sertraline AKA Zoloft, Eleva, Serta and other SSRI's

Anyone who may be able to share knowledge and/or info on this chemical and/or my situation, please, read on.

I've just been prescribed an SSRI called Sertraline for ongoing depression/anxiety (I can describe this in detail if requested).

>50mg per day (in the mornings) for a period of 6-8 months, with a primary checkup in the first 2 weeks.

The doctor gave me a pamphlet to read (written/distributed by the government) on the drug itself, the usages and other general information. I was also encouraged to do my own research on the chemical and report back at our next appointment (sooner if needed). I was told that in general, the drug (and/or it's effect) starts to "accumulate" (or thereabouts) in the body/brain mover a course of ~4 weeks.

Although I used to smoke weed and drink regularly, I've been clean and sober for ~3 months now, as a means to better evaluate myself and my life. Since going sober, I've felt better in the sense that I'm being more "honest" or "true" with myself, for lack of a better descriptor, but I have also felt that the as the "blanket of sedation" has been removed, I've come to realise that I was simply using intoxication to "better" deal with the world around me.

I took my first 50mg pill this afternoon; in the next post, I will go into how I am feeling now (~4 hours later).

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What is the question?
Alternatively, this board is about politics not medication

Pharmacy student here

Know that you can feel worse the first 4 weeks. That is completely normal and happens with many people that start with ssri s.

question why this is not a form of intoxication.
because it takes longer? because a doctor gave it to you?

doctors handed out cocaine and morphine for childhood toothaches 100 years ago.

I'm on 150mg Sertraline. Don't bother taking them, OP. You will regret it. You will feel devoid of any emotion, you will lose interest in sex. It is near impossible to stop taking them too, due to the (((side-effects))) you have to endure when going cold turkey.

>writing this as I go so please be patient

As a quick note, I would like to add a little bit more about myself and my physical and mental situation, as it currently stands.

I'm 28 and pretty standard (or, smaller than average) as far as appearance goes: 64kg, 5'8"

why post?

My questions will be on the effects and mechanism of this chemical, and potential dangers (change of behavior/self, loss of control etc).

I've actually had quite a number of PEAK experiences in my life, so I believe I may be able to contrast the perceived effects with my previous life experience.

This is a good question, though I believe this would be considered a long-term for on intoxication.

Ah yeah we have not made any progress in the last 100 years. FDA and EMA are just useless

LMAO you obviously don't know anything about evidence based medicine

You take ssris because you are depressed. Do you rather want to feel depressed the whole time or do you want the intense emotions to stop. Ssris are no miracle drugs. It is your brain that is sick and the only person who can fix it is you. Ssris can help with that though

Reading the material, I see that SSRI's are "thought to work" by blocking the uptake of serotonin. I questioned the doctor on this BEFORE reading the material, as I have previous knowledge of how SSRI's work, and I was told that (potential miscommunication) SSRI's ALLOW the brain to USE serotonin. This seems contradictory to how the pamphlets describe the mechanism, so please chime in if you are able to help me with this apparent error.

>I took my first 50mg dose ~4.5hrs ago.
>I almost instantly felt an effect.

yes, because the progress of the post-war era is completely clean and free of meddling

learn where you are, turd.

doctors are allowed to say whatever they want and if you complain youre dangerously unstable

I've been taking the stuff for a while.
50 mg is super weak. You probably won't notice a thing.
No, there won't be any change of behavior, loss of control etc.

what did you feel?

Friend, I do appreciate your continued questioning nature, as my next set of questions relate to the potential HARMS and DANGERS of taking this medication for "general depression".

>My "bouts of depression" might best be described as an ongoing spiritual awakening experience, as strange as that might sound.

These experiences have been coming and going, sometimes stronger, sometimes weaker, for as long as I can remember. The difference in these experiences from a younger age to an older age could be described as:

>As a youngster, I was always very interested in strange (more adult) things; life meaning, understanding, other people, myself, nature, death, sadness etc. These interest included both "negative" and "positive" things.

>As I got older, it seems that the "width" of these interests has increased, and, as an adult, I have a more nuanced yet universal perspective on these "interests".

Took it back in the early 2000's:

It will take forever to bust a nut... in a "I'm not having fun why the hell am I wasting my time" sort of way.

And it won't increase the duration of your erection either. It'll be harder to nut is all. Also you'll become a mental zombie as the high emotions and low emotions all become flatline. Good luck!

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Nearly instantly (10 minutes after ingestion) I felt more confused in general, this was not normally a phenomenon that I would feel at all, let alone mutple times in half an hour with odd things: hitting wrong light switches (not knowing which one did what straight away), forgetting for take washing outside when I walked outside to HANG WASHING (again, this is not a common phenomenon for me), and generally being "confused" for very short periods of time, multiple times.

I also felt strange sensations in the LEFT side of my brain/skull, kind of like a mini-headache. I very rarely get any headaches (take fish oil
and a multi daily) so although the sensations were minor, they were noticeable.

have you ever considered that what you consider to be a genetic disorder is rather a spiritual hole left gaping by a sense of christianity utterly twisted by popular media and subverted churches?

materialistic atheism always leads to nihilistic depression because there really is no point if atomic entropy is the endgame. look into gnosticism and theological history.

also, im no doctor, and nobody else here is either, remember that. dont bother taking life-impacting advice from me or anyone here, especially those who try to tell you they speak from some position of intellectual and academic authority

Never took Sertraline, but was on Cymbalta, an SNRI, for 6 yrs. felt exactly how this user described. I weaned off for 3 months and been off completely for 10 months. The withdrawal was absolute hell and I'm still not really myself. I regret ever taking this shit and wish I would have sought out therapy instead because my issues were never going to be solved with pills. Good luck to you.

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Bro it really doesn’t do much until you’ve been on it a while. You won’t feel anything other than maybe some stomach aches

people are going to say it's the Jew and that you'll shoot up a school. keep in mind there are millions of people on these drugs.

if you seriously have a chemical imbalance going on, they can be a god send. I can't live normally without them, unfortunately. what that means for me in the long run I don't know, but I know I can't live without them.

try them and if they make you too sick, stop taking them, op. I've had some that made me bed ridden and others that had no side effects to the point I thought the capsules were empty, until about 5 weeks later I started feeling great.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZJGFYKGhwuI
Truth.

Did Zoloft during my second year of Uni after flunking a semester.

The only thing I noticed was that I wasn't as interested in porn as a used to be, but overall my behaviour wasn't that different from before I took it.

My depression only really went away when I fixed the problems in my life. Namely, I fixed the course I was doing and found a girlfriend. But, I guess this differs for everyone.

Yes your body gets used to being poisoned and eventually you can enjoy the numbness making it easier to kill yourself. You basically turn into a sociopathic jew.

Jews taking advantage of the Vitamin D deficiency.

>Take these antidepressants goy, we don't know how or why they work, but you will feel better!

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that's meme depression. thats the kind of depression that doesn't need meds.

I've been on Zoloft since 2005
I learned not to take them as prescribed
If you take them daily, you will become very violent and have the urge to destroy things
I only take them when I feel a panic attack coming on
Last year I was having panic attacks weekly
I started meditating and sleeping a lot more
This year I've had two small panic attacks

Sleep more and stop taking the pills

I’m on mirtazapine and I can’t deny i definitely feel better and it’s only been about two weeks.

>I'm no doctor, and nobody else here is either, remember that.
Thank you for this message, friend. Yes, I have considered what you've asked, and I do believe you made an important point, as, I feel the reason for my continued "bouts" and oftentimes "increasing severity" may be due to an underlying and fundamental "mismatch" or "harshness of meshing/grain" when considering myself as an ever-changing individual (self), and, my environment (the world).

I've been doing reading on the chemical, as directed, and I have stumbled upon some strange information. This information related to violent acts and loss of control, or, difficulty controlling the will, or, willpower.

1. Take SSRI
2. Have increased synaptic 5-HT levels immediately
3. Over time autoreceptors downregulate to decrease 5-HT levels back to normal-ish.
4. This leads to the antidepressant effect after a couple weeks through a secondary mechanism that is not agreed upon yet (BDNF release might be one, or some effect on the glutamate system) and is not very much related to serotonin.

>10 minutes after ingestion
Placebo

I've been on very small doses of Sertraline since I was 11.

They've been good to me and I've never had any real issues with them, but I'd honestly like to come off them sometime. I'm a happy, functioning adult with a job now.

I wouldn’t read too much into side effects unless you definitely feel an adverse effect. You only need to read certain websites to see the type of people who take these medications and how pathetic they can be sometimes, especially on websites such as “mumsnet”. A group of usually single mothers who complain about everything and so use this new medication as a new avenue for said moaning, even if they only took the first pill 4 minutes ago.

Interesting studies that show that SSRI's (in general) are associated with suicidal ideation and violent crime:

>bmj.com/content/355/bmj.i5504

>bmj.com/content/352/bmj.i65

>journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1001875

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066537/

I find this interesting as I did clearly mention to the doctors that although I do sometimes think about cessation of self (and methods), I made it clear that I didn't want to hurt anyone else, or myself.

Nobody knows how they work. We only know their primary method of action on the brain. Don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise. They're lying to you.

It's actually pretty simple. Are you so depressed that you can't get out of bed, do absolutely nothing all day, and think about suicide constantly? No? Then you don't need antidepressants. Their efficacy is proportional to the severity of the depression.

took sertraline/zoloft and inderal for about a year or so against depression and sad which has been going on a decade.
They work short time and with work i mean you get light heades, "tired" and you kinda stop caring... almost a bit like smoking indica.
But the mediaction alone only helps short time and is as a matter of fact here so you actually can go to therapy and later group therapy.
medication on its own does nothing only therapy helps.
Also when you stopptaking the mediaction you you get headaches and short burst of head pain/lighting for a week or two.
Dont think only using medication is enough lol it really isnt.

This study explores the link between suicidal ideation and violence in "healthy adults" with no signs of mental disorder:

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5066537/

I'm pointing this out due to the fact that some researchers tend to say that antidepressants, for whatever reason, tend to address executive dysfunction (motivation/energy issues) first, before addressing the depression and suicidal ideation. They claim that this results in people who have been thinking of suicide for awhile, now finally having the gumption to go through with it.

Taking the above study in to consideration, if there's an increased risk when antidepressants are given to volunteers with no signs of a mental disorder, it's difficult to point the finger at the antidepressants mechanism of treatment of a mental disorder.

publicly traded jew garbage that steals your personality away

get some self-esteem instead

Most retarded advice on this board. If you’re having sexual side effects you should ask about switching to wellbutrin

SSRIs cause school shootings.

EVERY school shooter in the last 20 years has been on SSRIs. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

This , I stopped taking them because they will make you violent and unresponsive to emotional or physical stimulation . Do not take them . Ever .

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>Oy vey this other one is better I promise, dont leave my pharmacy!

it's rare.

something like 20 million people take ssris all over the world.. if it was that common all hell would be breaking loose. literally

look at the state of the modern world

we live in a society

What a fucking leap in logic

>5'8"
No wonder you're depressed lmao

Can confirm , I felt the urge to lash out and attack people or harm myself and my family . Do not underestimate these pills . Do not fucking take them , I am currently recovering from the mental fuckery these pills have put my brain through . Fix yourself by doing things that satisfy you , these pills cannot fill the hole and will only cover your wound as your flesh rots beneath the band-aid . DO NOT TAKE THIS SHIT

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It’s a well known fact you fucking kike. Medical guidelines state that if a pt has sexual side effects he should switch to wellbutrin. We aren’t even talking about switching to another SSRI. It’s a whole other drug entirely

youre not supposed to stop cold turkey retard. you did it to yourself

what about it? most violence is being done by third world brown people

you obviously need downers dude

So you're saying it's kind of like a "pick your poison" situation?

This seems to be my primary finding also; the primary mechanism is understood, but how this relates to changes in an any given individual's behavior is unknown.

Although I'm open to other explanations, namely the placebo effect, It would be in my nature to be cautious in asserting a "cause" for these "effects". Currently I'm feeling slightly warmer than normal regarding body temperature, and the nerves in my arms and legs feel "slightly different". This is hard to put my finger on and may be best described as an increase in sensitivity, followed shortly by a decrease in "noticing" of the sensation/nerves. My stomach seems to feel a little "off", before feeling fine/normal again. These changes seem to be oscillating every 10-15 minutes.

I took Sertraline around 5 years ago for around 4-6 months but decided to stop it, since I didn't feel like I needed it after getting out of a terrible relationship.
One major side effect I noticed was that I had a relatively mild form of restless leg syndrome. I could hardly stand straight and not fidget with my legs in public transport while on it. It was only 50 mg.
Maybe it helped, maybe it didn't, but I had enough of it.

Wait until you have to ween yourself off and during withdrawals a giant imaginary head starts peeking at you from around the walls. Good thing you stopped smoking weed though, you're money is going to Pfizer instead of Pedro.

Some of them have what's knows as a black box warning, the most serious warning the FDA can give, about how they increase thoughts of suicide. They really should be for all of them, but it can take a lot of time. If you feel these kind of thoughts, get ahold of someone right away. Your doctor or suicide prevention. Don't ignore it.

Well I'm an alcoholic so I suppose you are correct . I have done all sorts of things but nothing fucked my brain up more than Sertraline

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Please, I beg you, DO NOT TAKE THEM

They really fucked me up, almost got me to off myself, and ever since I came off of them I've never been the same. I have a constant haze over my life, never feel in control, I'm more fucking depressed than when I went on them and I don't even feel like I'm in control of my life anymore, I feel like an observer, not an actor.

I can fully understand why statistically the vast majority of mass shooters were on SSRI's. I never feel any emotions anymore except for apathy, or anger. The only time I feel any other emotion is through seriously INTENSE things. Something insanely hilarious happens? Maybe I'll laugh a bit, and crack a smile. Train barreling towards me? Maybe I'll feel mild panic. All the things I used to love and enjoy, I no longer get satisfaction from. I rarely find myself enjoying video games, and I've lost all interest in movies or music.
It makes total sense that people on SSRI's start to engage in risky behaviors such as gambling, or develop a risk seeking habit.

I went through my entire fucking life saying, "I'll never take anti-depressants" even though I was always depressed as a child, through my teenage years and early adult life, it's NOTHING compared to how I feel now. I was 27 when I made the decision to go on them because I was pressured like a total cuck by my really hot desi Indian doctor woman. I wish I could go back in time and stop taking them.

I now see SSRI's as the chemotherapy of mental illness. The niggers and kikes that develop these drugs do so with no real regard for the patient, they have no fucking idea what they're actually doing, so they take the "if we can't get to the root cause of what is causing emotional instability, just nuke all emotion!" They're fucking cunts and I genuinely feel nothing but disdain and hatred towards any fucking cunt that works in pharmacology

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these pills turn whites into third-world brown people, at least mentally

Don't take them, they can cause nerve damage.

Google "Post-SSRI Sexual Dysfunction".

Lol!
Funny because true... but scary also..

Possible...

rarely

Went on it a couple of years back, made me feel numb and it took forever to get an ejaculation.

Quit cold turkey which made me feel vertigo when I moved body vertically. The brainzaps were incredibly uncomfortable.

I was on the same medicine, and it's crap. I started feeling like someone else. Like a robot took over my body and a fog went over my mind. It also felt like speed (methamfetamines) sometimes. It's crap and you shouldn't take it.

Maybe they were all depressed ?
You are spreading dailystormer speech.

Stop taking them , you can recover . I promise . Stop fucking eating those fucking kike scripts .

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Might as well ask here while I'm thinking of it
Has anybody here been prescribed Seroquel? I just started taking 1 25mg dose in the day and 2 at night and all it really does is make me sleep and eat all the time, I can barely function beyond those two actions, so I'm wondering if that becomes more manageable and what pros and cons others have experienced
Not trying to hijack your thread OP this just seems like a good thread to ask

Sounds like you may also be a Schizoid mate. Only know because I have similar experience in regards to personal reactions to life.

Interesting if SSRI medication has the same effects as the disorder though.

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Zoloft gave me uncontrollable diarrhea. I literally shit the bed after being on it for 1.5 days and had to quit. Lamictal is my current drug of choice.

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don't take this shit. it creates a gum-like substance around your heart which will give you a heart attack. it does not matter how long you take it, that shit will grow around your heart muscle and kill you.

ssri's are only legal in the usa - to kill the population. carrie fisher (that starwars kike) died from it recently, as an example.

>So you're saying it's kind of like a "pick your poison" situation?
No, life is shit, but still try to make the most out of it. You will be dead soon anyway, life is short as fuck, because you can only look back and never forward. Eat healthy, exercise regularly and train your mind by reading and learning.

I'm saying the ratio of side effects to improvement of your symptoms is not favorable for most people unless the illness is severe.

Also it's pretty much impossible any significant amount of the stuff has reached your brain after 10 minutes unless you snorted or injected it.

Do you happen to know much about the mechanism by which wellbutrin works?

Kek, thanks user.

Don't be so quick to dismiss the well-documented relationship between SSRI's, acts of violence and suicidal ideation. This seems to exist both in healthy adults with no sign of mental illness and those who are prescribed the medication for the treatment thereof. You can find these studies (double-blind w/ control) listed in the following posts:
I appreciate all the replies and I will continue to research SSRI's and respond to posters as I go. If anyone would like me to elaborate on my personal history and situation further, please let me know; I may do this anyway.

Stop taking that shit, it's fucking up your mind. You're depressed because your life sucks--and you should be depressed because if you were happy you'd be insane. Try pot instead.

>No one gives a shit about you
Fine words of wisdom. The road to enlightenment for whining depressed cunts.
You have to sort your own shit out. These cunts know the changes they have to make but instead look for validation off of people who don't care and have their own shit to worry about.
But get on with it anyway.

Started Zoloft 3 weeks ago and already can't keep my dick hard. Have a new baby and time is scarce so didn't notice it was an issue until we got some alone time. Made an appointment real fast. Getting off this shit. Besides the sexual side effects, felt like I had swallowed something that was caught in my throat, while also feeling like I couldn't breathe as though I had overeaten.

SNRI's fucked me hard stopped them three years ago and haven't felt the same since

Antipsychotics make you retarded. It'll stay that way.

Your millage may vary. I get pretty much the same side effects from what I'm on but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternative where I'm constantly convinced that I'm going to die of something.

Op just stick to weed. Don't listen to the angry children on here or the government who use it as a cash cow. It's done wonders for my depression for 20 years. You have to stay away from the alcohol though, that will kill you faster than anything.

Yeah I do. It’s generic name is buproprion and unlike an SSRI it works on norepinephrine and dopamine receptors

what is it about therapy that helps?

Not them, but some people work hard and yet still have bad luck, user. Maybe God hates me. Ever consider that?

Its an anti psychotic.
It makes people sleepy. Its zombie-ing you out..

People who shoot up schools tend to be mentally ill. People on SSRIs tend to be mentally ill. Hence people who shoot up schools tend to be on SSRIs

Correlation does not imply causation.

like i said, it encapsulates your heart. people who took it need to detox if they don't want to die from heart attack. it takes years to grow, but then it will be too late.

this stuff is literally toxic. stay the hell away from it.

if you took this shit prepare for a painful death.

Seroquil is something I used to use after a crack / cocaine /ecstacy binge . It knocks you out and helps you to eat and sleep . It literally tranquilized the critical thinking / opinion / personality part of my brain , it is an anti-phsycotic and is used to dope people up so they accept everything and can no longer function or think in a normal way . Granted , it has it's genuine uses if you are a drug user but I wouldn't take it if it is not needed . I got it off a roommate who has literally batshit crazy and would do drugs with me , so it was never prescribed to me but I can tell you that what you are experiencing is not uncommon . That's basically what the drug is supposed to do .

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wtf? this is a new one.. sauce please.

Also the studies your referring to about suicidal ideations are in regards to adolescent teenagers. This has been well known for quite sometime and every kid who is put on them is briefed on the possible side effects.

>giant imaginary head starts peeking at you from around the walls
This is odd; I'm not one for visual or auditory hallucinations AT ALL. Never have I experienced them without the intention to do so (simple blurring of vision in a dark room, the basics etc.), yet, twice this afternoon I've been taken aback by something "out the corner of my eye". Upon looking closer (all of this happens within a few seconds), there is nothing there.. These were strange and slightly scary experiences (twice so far).

I'm also noticing a warm, buzzing feeling that fades in and out in my left ear (same side of my head that the warm tingling sensation was on).

Correlation is used as causation in court, user. So, it's real when it's official, but totally fake in schools and colleges. Correlation is causation is also used by the police, employers, prospective lovers;etc.

Y..you mean to tell me that depressed and mentally ill people are more likely to say ‘screw it’ and commit acts of violence when compared to a happy, well adjusted person... user.. I’m shocked.

redpill me on klonopin p-please.

myself. docfag.

I tried 100mg Zoloft a day for about a year, it didn't help me. It didnt make me have crazy thoughts or feel out of control, it was kind of a letdown what little effect it had at all.

On the plus side though when I just decided to stop taking them one day cold turkey there wasn't any withdrawal at all.

My doctor says there's way better shit since Zoloft came out but I can't afford those.

Got a sauce?

Meme flag........ preventing people who are socially isolated from taking medication....
You sound jewish.

your dick will stop working

Seems legit.

It will make you not give a fuck, then you'll be addicted for life in no time.

also any legit doctor who gives two shits about his patients.
anyway i'm out. don't take it.