THEY ARE THE PANZER ELITE

NEVER RETREAT

LEAVING OUR DEAD

throwing 200 tanks on 20 will win the battle.. oh what a surprise.

ALWAYS AHEAD

FED BY YOUR DREAD

Simo Hayha and the boys say hi!

Judas Priest Sabaton concert in 9 days next to me. Couldn't be happier.

>Simo Hayha
truly simple things stopped the nazi war machine in its tracks. pure human endurance.

They both fucked up.. It's cold, when they find you frozen solid standing up. Remember that when you boys try your luck up north ;)

Actually I think it was the fact the allies had orders of magnitude more resources and population than the axis forces.

So much for that

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20 T-34-76s of later models would probably easily overwhelm and annihilate 200 Pz 38s, Pz 1, 2s, 3s of the early modification, etc.

Resist and Bite & Screaming Eagles are objectively better songs

>standing up.
Or otherwise

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>of 13,949 built T-34 in 1944 13,800 were destroyed
>Soviet Casualties and Combat Losses in the Twentieth Century, Nov. 30. 1997
Zerg rush, best rush

lol cucked by sheer numbers yet again

>20 M1A2 Abrams would totally anihilate 200 T-60 tanks
no shit m8. impressive

>Play this song imagining Nazis going deep into Soviet territory destroying everything they find
>After the song I immediately play
youtu.be/dcab4_-ooj8
>Imagine Nazis getting ass raped all the way back to Berlin

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*Breaks down after 30 minutes and is abandoned*

THE WHOLE ROTTEN STRUCTURE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME CRASHING DOWN

it didn't help when Hitler covered the entire Atlantic coast in bunkers, wasting resources.

And to be fair the t34 came out after all of those and by and large fought mostly Pz IVs which despite being a year older was more than capable of going toe to toe with the t34

*deploys without air cover and gets CAS’d*

Come to Uncle Ivan little female German tank. Come feel the girth of his mighty Russian barrel.

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>1 Chad could totally annihilate 10 armless söyböys
goddamn tactical genius over here

>tank destroyer
>was used as mobile artillery because it was so immobile you had to move the entire tank to aim 1cm to the left

genius engineering. how can NATO ever recover

6TH OF JUNE 1944

*teleports behind you*
heh
nothin personell kid

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It was an assault gun, not a tank destroyer.

You want to talk about lack gun traverse, Germany had some fine examples like this little shit.

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the day the First Jassy–Kishinev Offensive ended with a total soviet disaster loss against romanian forces

hellou mr soviet union tank :D

here is molotov cocktail made with love for you

yea but thats an old stationary TD. it's only intended use was to stand around in a ditch. thats why it's shaped that way. ISU was supposed to counter Tigers in an offensive way.

>ISU was supposed to counter Tigers in an offensive way.

Wrong. The ISU-152 was primarily used as an assault gun, something to work closely with the infantry and knock down things like fortifications, strong points, bunkers, etc. While it could indeed take out enemy tanks, that was not its primary purpose. The ISU-122 fits more in the role of tank destroyer and was quite good at it, despite the lack of a turret.

The fact that Germany lost is not surprising at all. The fact that it took 6 years and 20 million allied casualties is surprising. The Germans had less troops and less tanks than everybody else they went against. Germany beat the French and the British at the same time because the British and their allies were so incompetent. Then the Germans lost because they did not have the resources to keep fighting like the whole world against them did. One million losses for Germany was a huge loss. It was nothing for the Soviets or the Allies.

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the German tank fleet was shit. British and French tanks were better. the Germans just had a bunch better understanding of tank tactics, as their officer corps was younger and wasn't stuck in WWI-officer era thinking. same goes for the Soviets.

the British and the French tried to use them as infantry support, while the Germans used them for quick offensives to encircle armies. same story on the Eastern Front, until the USSR got the T-34 into mass production.

correct. it was used in a different way because they realized the short comings of this tank in several departments. it was planned as the "beast killer" in response to the tiger. it was as much a "failure" as the SU-152 beforehand

>Quick offensives
This is a myth and cost the Germans the war. If you really dig in you will see that Tank warfare was a meme. The Germans lost their tank battles with the French. What the Germans did well was adapting. They attacked and then they paused and regrouped.

When Rommel used tank tactics in Africa he got btfo every time. The best thing is to use tanks as infantry support. They are not invincible and never were. When the Germans stuck to taking strategic points then advancing to the next strategic point they were unstoppable. Every time they used tank Tactics they got btfo. Just look at Kursk.

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also, I've been thinking of tactics to take down tanks as infantry. three rolls of concertina wire to immobilize. send a drone to drop thermite bombs, molotov cocktails, whatever on top of it. execute tank crew with sniper fire when they exit the vehicle. rate?

>how to stop tanks
In world war two all you needed was to not have a road. Just look at the Russo-Finnish War. The Russians could not get their tanks through the forest. When the Germans invaded France they just sent all their tanks through a forest road in Belgium. One straight column.

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correct. the French had more and better tanks. but they concentrated them in Belgium. and Germany rushed the Ardennes. cut off the northern French armies and the British forces. from there on out it was all downhill.

similar story in 1941 on the Eastern Front. they conducted MASSIVE encirclements. captured something like 600,000 Red Army soldiers in the Kiev pocket.

Rommel was doing great in Africa until Hitler decided to stop sending him oil (probably not the worst decision Hitler made). info from Kursk is so shit it's hard to tell what really happened there.

That and the proliferation of man portable antitank weaponry fucks armor. Weaponry always beats armor and unless used with infantrysupport tanks get raped

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I'm thinking in a civilians vs the government scenario. most people live in cities. the majority of Red Tribe (mostly white, mostly Republican Americans) and Gray Tribe (mostly white, mostly libertarian Americans) live in suburbs of urban centers, with extensive road networks. these are the two armed tribes that would rebel. most of the rest of them medium-sized independent towns, which also have roads. very few people in America are engaged in agriculture anymore.