Today, the Alliance is proud to announce the public release of the AOMedia Video Codec 1.0 (AV1) specification, which delivers cross-platform, 4K UHD or higher online video, royalty-free – all while lowering data usage. - March 28th, 2018
Oh boy what should I use, professionally made HEVC or AV1 which was made by some GNU neets in their basement. Reminder that royalty based codecs are royalty based for a reason, because they're better than free garbage.
Camden Thompson
kek HEVCfags this mad and the encoder isn't even good yet.
I see MPEG shills are out in force today. HEVC is deprecated and finished and will be removed from from youtube within the year. When you open a HEVC video in chrome or firefox you will be warned that you are using outdated and harmful codecs.
Josiah Sullivan
Where can i see it?
Chase Green
...
Isaiah Barnes
Wake me up when AV1 hw decoders are widespread.
Never because it takes 3000X longer to encode than HEVC and is only 10-20% more efficient.
Amazon Apple ARM Cisco Facebook[33][34] Google IBM[34] Intel Microsoft Mozilla Netflix Nvidia
General members
Adobe Allegro DVT AMD Amlogic Argon Design[35] Ateme BBC Research & Development[36] Bitmovin[37][38] Broadcom Chips&Media[39] Hulu Ittiam NGCodec[40] Polycom Realtek Sigma Designs Socionext VeriSilicon VideoLAN[41] Vidyo Xilinx
Pretty much the entire industry is a part of AOMedia
Eli Sullivan
I love you too user.
Soon enough, less than a year. First decent encoder should be HW-based, which can be good as they're probably working on it for the past three years. H264 hw is only "bad" because nvidia/amd only started to working on it for like 5 years, so x264 was already pretty mature.
Netflix, Amazon, Google cares. And they baked AV1.
It's been improved but it will take years for netflix to even consider using it.
Asher Davis
Enjoy your 4k panels then.
Jack Clark
I will with hevc. 8K hevc hardware decoders are being designed rn.
Dominic Watson
>t. patent jew
Luis Torres
I don't think so, they can save a lot of bandwidth with 720/1080p alone, which is probably what most of it's users use. Iirc most people do watch on phones/tablets.
Adrian Smith
Why have you not joined the AV1 master race, Jow Forums?
Hunter Gutierrez
So phones/tablets have threadripper cpu performance now? wow
Isaiah Kelly
It's as dead as daala. VP9 and hevc already exist.
Mason Johnson
they won't force everyone to use AV1, only supported devices will use it, just like how it worked with every codec before
Jose Jenkins
Hardware encoding is bad because they only want to spend a tiny corner of the die on the actual accelerator ... the actual GPU meanwhile is absolutely useless for encoding.
Brody Rodriguez
Neat. So where's the encoder? I got files to try.
Brody Jones
The encoder has really shitty performance at the moment, if you've ever tried encoding H265/VP9 before, AV1 is a magnitude slower than both in its current state.
Oliver Watson
> if you've ever tried encoding H265/VP9 before Yes.
> AV1 is a magnitude slower than both in its current state So they designed and released the spec without a decent reference encoder? That is pretty gay.
Levi Barnes
But you don't need literally any special hardware, any GPU with GPGPU support, which is all of them nowadays, can have it enabled, but it's preferable and more efficient if the GPU maker codes it directly into the drivers.
Cameron Rodriguez
>hw dec talk >goes full retard wow great english you have there
Daniel Nguyen
>GPGPU Good joke.
The best you can use the GPU for is doing a preliminary motion estimation with, to refine in software on the CPU.
Jaxson Davis
>Hardware encoding is bad because they only want to spend a tiny corner of the die on the actual accelerator ... the actual GPU meanwhile is absolutely useless for encoding. And this is a bad thing why? You should be talking about quality, not speed.
They are over one year late, on the original schedule.
Cameron Cox
GET FUCKED MPEG
Hunter Myers
>They are over one year late, on the original schedule. Yea, but weren't they writing some good reference implementation while they were fleshing out the spec?
Jordan Flores
So when is HW decoding coming and more importantly, when will we start to see retro-encoding of anime so I can get rid of these shitty x264 10bit encodes in my archive?
Adrian Nelson
Technology wise hardware decoders could probably be ready in 2 years or so.
Whether the politics in the industry are such that the big SoC designers will immediately dedicate funds to developing it, no clue.
Jeremiah Wilson
>kys heh teens
Jason Allen
You will NEVER see AV1 encodes of chinese cartoons because AT BEST it will be 10X more computationally intense to encode compared to 10-bit HEVC (which has mobile decoding since snapdragon 820)
Jaxon Kelly
> AT BEST it will be 10X more computationally intense This sounds like an absolute asspull.
Gavin Gutierrez
It does, it's at 3,000 times the cpu comolexity to encode compared to hevc down to 10 times seems impossible for a freetarded codec
Cameron Turner
But Youtube doesn't even use hevc
Austin Green
>freetarded codec What did he mean by this?
Jaxon Wood
Can I use it in FFPlay/FFMpeg/Kodi?
No?
Then fuck off
Joshua Nguyen
Meanwhile, Jow Forums still only supports VP8
James Morris
Jow Forums is dead
Jason Hughes
see daala
Aiden Hernandez
What's the point of 4k codecs when most normies don't have the internet speed to stream it?
>HEVC is deprecated and finished and will be removed from from youtube within the year It's already out of Youtube....it was actually never on Youtube, they use VP9
Jaxson Cruz
this, those dumb fucks
Juan Torres
t. yify
Chase Gray
Fixed function hardware decoding of AV1 on GPU/APU when?
Jayden Hall
YIFY, is that you? I thought CIA shot you in the head for crimes against basic human decency.
Ian Murphy
t. GOOG AAPL AMZN NFLX
AV1 MORE LIKE CORPOSHILL1
Jace Robinson
This is a general problem with scene releases. I hope we eventually start seeing AV1 used once a decent encoder/decoder is made available.
Nathaniel Baker
maybe in another lifetime
Colton Moore
encode hevc at that bitrate with the very slow preset and fucking shoot yourself in the face
I once tried to upload a HEVC file and it didn't let me
the botnet always win
Wyatt Ward
does it work with ffmpeg yet?
Cameron Hernandez
They didn't accept 10 bit or 5.1 audio for the longest time either, but Youtube accepts HEVC just fine now.
Parker Nguyen
nope, not even in master
Benjamin Peterson
>Executive Director of AOMedia Gabe Frost says end users should expect widespread support for AV1 in... >Web Browsers this year >Existing Devices end of 2018 or early 2019 >"All" new Hardware in 2020
no, retard IF CPU = BLAH PLAY H264 ELSE IF CPU = BLEH PLAY H265 ELSE IF CPU = BLOH PLAY AV1
WOW SO FUCKING HARD netflix backs it for literally that reason. all new mobile chips are going to hardware accelerate the decoding of fucking av1 when it is "released" all browser will support it, all new CPUs will. computer users that can handle it will get pushed the data first. consoles will be second, mobile will be last and it'll be on a per device basis.
learn to code and you wouldn't post such stupid fucking shit. it's the same reason imgur (and every other site that exists except 4chin) pushes webM for literally every device and mp4 for shitty applel devices.
Nathan Cox
Almost my entire porn collection is in x265 format now. Spent a while converting it all. Did I fuck up?
No, not at all. Turns out AV1s exclusive audience will be supercomputers.
>"Specifically, here's what the report states regarding encoding speed; "AV1 encoder has extremely low speed—2500-3000 times lower than competitors. X265 Placebo presets (2 and 3 passes) have 10-15 times lower speed than the competitors.""