Thinkpad General

Previous thread: If you're looking for purchase advice, state your budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™

>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Libreboot-compatible models:
>T60, X60; X200, T/W400/500
Modern models:
>X220/X230 - 12", 768p, cheap and light
>T420/T430 - 14", 900p, widely available, socketed CPU, Ivy Bridge installable w/ Coreboot on T420; Old keyboard swap on *30 series
>T/W52/30 - 15", 1080p, DTR, 32GB RAM on quadcore models, USB 3
>T440p/540p; W540/1 - Last Thinkpads with socketed processors, easily replaceable trackpad (W541 doesn't need trackpad replacement) (T440s if portability matters, soldered cpu)
>P-Series - 15'' + 17'', 4K display, 64gb of RAM, Xeon CPU option. Expensive. Bad stock cooling reported by multiple owners.

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>The best TrackPoint, great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support

>Hardware Maintenance Manuals (HMM's) and Windows drivers for legacy devices:
download.lenovo.com/eol
>Used laptop guides by xsauc:
dankpads.com
>ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads & running GNU/Linux on them:
thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
>ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
lenovoservicetraining.com/
>BIOS logo booru:
biosimage.booru.org/

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What's a good Thinkpad that says "I'm gay" but not "I'm gay and I want to fuck you"?

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Thinkpad is a business mans laptop. Not a fruity macbook.

>businessmen can't be gay

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Ok listen up fuckheads. Read the OP carefully. The only thinkpads worth getting are the x220, x230, t420, t430, t520, t530, w520, t530. DO NUT, I REPEAT NUT POST QUESTIONS REGARDING THE xx40 series. These are t440, x240 etc and also includes the second generation x1 carbon. This is where lenovo started fucking around and trying to push a different business model to appeal to faggots who buy Apple. Do careful research of models that follow these since this is where they began with memes like soldered RAM, non removable batteries, combining ports to force you to buy adapters.
In the opposite direction, models preceding the xx20 series are also worth getting for the fuller IBM experience. These include models like x201, x200, t400, x60, x61, t60, t61. However anything older than the x60/t60 is probably too under powered for anything other than as a hobby machine.

Most gays act like women....no? I wasn't trying to be offensive.
>businessMAN

user wants a laptop that will make people think he is gay, a Thinkpad is not the answer.

T440s has soldered ram and cpu, both things I will never need to touch.

Its a direct upgrade over the old line in every single way.

Please stop shilling these devices, yes they are great if on a sub $100 budget, but if you can afford a t440s/p or newer it IS worth it.

Just dont buy brand new. Buy used/refurbished.

Um no sweetie, try again. I don't want people to think I'm gay, I want them to know I'm gay, but I don't want them to think that makes me easy.

>but if you can afford a t440s/p or newer it IS worth it.
You're missing the point entirely. If you can afford the t440s/p you can afford loads of other laptop brands. And thanks for mentioning used/refurbished. Those newer thinkpads tend to retain their value more. Which directly means you can purchase non thinkpads with the same specs for a lower price. Please don't be retarded and mention muh build quality since Lenovo stopped being interested in that. So quite simply there isn't a reason to buy newer model thinkpads except as brand loyalty which makes you no better than an Apple retard.

You're joking right?

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If you only have $150 maximum budget, get the t430, sure. T440 is just as powerful and alot nicer. T440s is half the size, and t440p is a direct upgrade.

T440s cons: soldered cpu and ram (so what, still has 1 ram slot for upgrades)

t430 cons:

Battery whitelist
Harder to upgrade to FHD ips
Older batteries with less capacity
Heavier device
Thicker device
Higher temps
cpu is not as power efficient
old style charger (every office/school has the new ones in case of emergency)
inferior wifi chip

I paid $180 for my t440s in mint condition.

They are like $30 more than a t430 here in the United States. No joke.

People dont realize how close in price the t440 and t430 are. Especially if you want IPS the t440 becomes cheaper.

too bad the t440s isn't as powerful and doesn't have an ultrabay.
Not being able to have an SSD for the OS and a cheap, high capacity hard disk for everything else is a shame.
Why not get an x series at that point?

>isnt as powerful
lies
>high capacity hard disk
Thats a personal preference of yours, most dont need the extra weight.

t440s is just as thin as x series but with better cooling and a 14 inch display

Its the x1 carbon with dock abilities and better thermals

> buy an X220
> parents like it and want one each
> entire family owns thinkpads now

thanks Jow Forums

t440s is a personal preference of mine.

Now the t440p on the other hand is literally a direct upgrade over the t430, especially if you want 1920x1080 IPS it becomes cheaper.

>lies
an i7 4600u isn't as good as an i7 3520m
>Thats a personal preference of yours
no denying it's a con, though. plus you can't retrofit the meme keyboard
>t440s is just as thin as x series but with better cooling and a 14 inch display
yeah but it's just an x series with a bigger display.
Why not get something less bulky?
>Now the t440p on the other hand is literally a direct upgrade over the t430
no shit, I agree there.

I picked the t440s over the x240 for reasons like

>the cheaper ips display
>larger keyboard
>better cooling

Fuck you idab

who is this guy anyways

he plays vanilla world of warcraft and livestreams it on twitch. Hes from the kronos community. the client is from 2006 and runs great on these thinkpads.

and why is he posting on tpg?

The most fruity thing here is you

Literally who is this faggot?

Don't say that about saucy
That means you're almost preferring this soyboy who can't even into rotating pictures

I have been posting about my x60 for years, im not new here.

I also own a t430 and t440s

Thinks he's important or something because he owns literally the worst thinkpad

it really is the worst and its bizarre that he thinks its relevant
>worst keyboard
>worst cpu
>worst amount of upgradeability

Don't forget
Worst screen
Worst trackpad
Worst case
Worst power connector
Even, worst color

who is this guy?
got to be the most punchable, soyboy grin I've ever seen.

Say what about xim/xer? Saucy is based af. I just want to know which Thinkpad lets people know I'm gay.

Wrong. T430 has worst screen. Is T440 where they changed to a new adapter? Also what changed with the colour?

I think he's call ifag? He's grindr celebrity or something
He's trying to make us watch his porn no matter how many times we say no

One of the nu thinkpads that are basically facebook machines but with the thinkpad logo.

Put your name back on idab
We talked about this
The T440s has the worst screen
It's dimmer, less color accurate and has even worse color accuracy than a T430 screen

That's not a T440s

$160 for an x220 i5 8gb 128ssd w/ battery and power cable, worth it?

Yeah that's pretty good

>worse than a t430 tn panel
this isn't possible

Non idab OP
Post here if you think this fag needs to stop putting himself in the OP

But it is
It's fucking garbage
I need to be in a pitch black room to see anything
Look even in your pictures you can't see the screen
That's how bad the screen is

The base model T440s has a 1600x900 panel compared to T430's 1366x768. Both are TN.
So how is the T440s screen worse?

Not true, I dont use a stock panel either way.

The FHD ips panel for a t440 is $59.99 shipped.

Just picked up this little beauty T420 for $200 AUD (~$155 USD). Has the 1600x900 screen, 1gb nvidia NVS 4200M and a 9 cell battery and charger.

Only a little scuff on one of the body corners.

Currently tossing up further upgrades (most likely RAM & hard drives)

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well thanks for including my changes to the OP at least user :3

Wait so idab is that gay soyboy in OP pic?

Eh I can let something that minor slide
At you're not this guy Who the fuck even uses discord?

yes

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Pretty fitting for a T440s user, no?

I use discord, I have friends.

What does that even mean?

I use for friends too
But just friends
Not as replacement for the general thread we have 24/7

You very well know what I mean

Yeah im not going to circlejerk in a discord with them. Posting here is sad enough for me :D

Jow Forums doesn't play vidya
And if I wanted to be not included in a inside gag that overstays it's welcome I'd go on irc

Also I enjoy talking shit and sort helping people

*sort of helping people
I should really get my car fixed
I fucking hate the bus

Be nice idab has mental retardation

No I dont

Im just pretending

>jus prentendin
Fuck off with that newfag shit
There is no pretending to be retarded
You are fucking retarded and you're too ashamed to admit it

Own up to your retardation.

Buying my first Thinkpad tomorrow from Craigslist.

W530 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD, Intel Core i7-3720QM - 2.60GHz $300

Anything to watch out for? I'm guessing open up control panel and confirm specs. Hard drive storage seems weird, usually I see 250 gb

check if hinge is loose

Check the life on the SSD and stress the ram.

Check or dead pixels and loose hinges.

Super worn out keyboards/trackpads can look shiny.

T440, but if you want to go full gay and still be using a ThinkPad instead of a Mac use one of the latest ThinkPads

Dafuq is there two /tpg/ threads for?

No idea, people love to hate on me for some reason.

I created this one first when the last thread his post cap.

this one is official

Consider a SSD.
I really really love those things. They'll give an old rig some serious snap and even give a newer one some shove.
Make sure it's the boot drive, and you can stuff the HDD into the CD drive slot with an adapter, maybe.

The other cool thing about SSD's is that once you're tired of that piece of junk, pull it out and stuff it into the next one or use it as a external storage.

Yep should be compatible with an ultrabay.

There are some super cheap low gb SSDs on ebay that make great boot drives.

If its used just make sure its from a reputable vendor that has the SSD life posted.

since we banned ur actually retarded ass from Jow ForumsThinkPad discord it's been peaceful

pro tip: don't call people 'niggers' because we mute you when you lie out your ass and attack others lmfao

take yourself and your t440shit shilling ass out of here you tripfag

>since we banned ur actually retarded ass from Jow ForumsThinkPad discord it's been peaceful
It was peaceful here too while he was banned for whatever reason

You can't be banned from either Jow Forums or discord. Change IP, and new email.

if he makes another stupid comment like that I'll start grieving his discord.

Im apart of the /tpg/ community but I have no interest in sitting in a discord with them

>70 posts
>60% are one poster
Threadly reminder to add idab to your filters

not true
join tpg discord

I was worried Jow Forums mods lurked the discord and could peek my ip and ban me here too
I've since found out this isn't possible

this isn't me btw. Someone is pretending to be me

stop pretending to be me, what are you getting at?

send proof when you grief them, if at all possible

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Both of you better stop larping as me.

Sad!

Ignore this person, this isn't me

If pretending to be someone else is funny, please off yourself

Real idab here, can someone post a link on how to create a tripcode?

I'll create one and timestamp

Has anyone gotten multitouch (two finger scrolling and whatnot) to work on an X300 running Linux? Particularly Arch? I've been trying every fix I can find on the web for the last five or six hours and I've got nothing to show for it. Shit's driving me crazy.

Refurbished t420 is quite expensive in my country so I'm thinking of buying a used one in the UK or Germany. What should be a good price for a used t420 in good condition? Let's say what would be a good price for an i3-2350M model and for a i7-2620M?

lol homo