/wt/ Watch Thread, Japanese horology edition

This thread is about the appreciation of horology, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a fine watch, clock, or other timepiece.

>Required viewing for new people:
youtube.com/watch?v=gNAz3zpFphQ

>Used watch guide:
pastebin.com/4cP1Tpri

>Strap guide:
pastebin.com/SwRysprE

>Watch essentials 102:
pastebin.com/VBAu4Rwi

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Is this how Zulu straps are supposed to work?

I think it looks a little too big for my Rolex

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By too big I mean I think the rings stick out too much

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nice helium escape valve

Oof. That's not a good look.

Looks like you're carrying around wrist weights.

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I have nine inch wrists

If it looks stupid on me It must look really really stupid I’m somebody with seven inch wrists. Who are these things for?

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I think they're just a military spec strap that got memed into civilian market. They dont look practical or comfortable.

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that makes sense, crud, I just wanted a strap that looked good

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What would you recommend as a low key every day watch under 40mm and under 200? I have an SNK809 I really like but I'm looking to branch out. Would be worn with a leather strap most likely. First time posting here pls no bully.

Yeah I find I can't wear them without them looking like they're choking my wrist underneath, even if it's fitting correctly. If I loosen it one notch to make it look normal, then it slides around on the wrist and looks stupid. Two piece straps or bracelets are far superior for larger wrists.

Get a nato strap. They have a smaller profile and look better. Alternatively, get a nice metal strap, or a synthetic one if thats your thing.

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Obligatory seiko shitpost

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What watch should I buy for my suicide. I have up to $3500 to spend.

Honestly never realized how many watches are in the SARB line, some of these look great

SARB025

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Just send the $3500 to me so I can get a black bay 58 :^)

SARB031

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I like Grand Seiko, but Archie is right that they are not really comparable to the big 3.
they are more at Rolex's level since both make high end mass production watches

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If you're going to kill yourself spend it on a trip to southeast asia/hookers/psychedelics.

And get the pope watch.

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SARB037

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Not a bad idea

these are discontinued right?

The whole sarb line has been

can you change the strap on this watch?

Yes

Yep

SARB059, weird alpinist x SKX vibes

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I bought a super cool super cheap watch

SARB047, monster-esque bezel and bracelet

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What is it? If it's not pic related you can Kys now.

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That's too expensive

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>Japanese horology edition
I'll be honest, I still don't get the new VFA. Even putting Rolex aside (since they don't have to deal with a smooth balance), a 4 second range guarantee was achieved by at least GP, Zodiac, and Longines with regulated balance movements, more than forty years ago, in production, accessible prices.

Sure I can acknowledge that even making a mechanical watch whose ethos is high accuracy is a bold move these days (whereas it wasn't at that time), and we can probably say something about how Seiko is surely actually going to produce watches much better than spec. But if multiple manufacturers were hitting the same tolerances half a century ago, with regulated balances, I really wish Seiko had managed to push this edition a little further.

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Grand Seiko is most directly comparable to JLCs production models in terms of external and movement finishing. This is below the haute hotlogerie standard that dress watch from ALS, PP, or VC should be at, but of course modern entry level Patek models are now regularly accused of failing to live up to that standard. A VC or ALS dress watch certainly will live up to it though, and that standard is on another level than a series produced watch.

Honestly buying a Grand Seiko in gold is silly anyway as steel and platinum show off Grand Seiko's external finishing much better anyway.

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What makes penisquartz better than any other quartz?

> $110
Now, maybe manufacturers could guarantee 60spm back then because fewer people had access to a good timing signal - I've certainly read that about that 60spm guarantee on the accutron and the 60spy guarantee on the early quartzes, like Beta 21 and Longines 6512. But at least looking at the (original 1967) chronometer test results for my HF make it seem like if that were true, it could only have been a little bit true, as the results make it seem like 2spd on the wrist would have been very likely achieved.

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Penisquartz is just good because it has good design (nice cases, textured dials) at a good price. Doublepenis has fancy thermocompensation, down to 5spy for the superior models.
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the big benis

>Rolex

you wear them on the outside of your jacket in the military

The 001, 003, and 005 were the best by far.

best poorfag watch?
under $30

First, keep in mind that marketing copy used to be a lot more...boastful than you would get away with today and that few customers would have had the means to really test the +/- 2 SPD mean daily variation ratings that were guaranteed for a few models back then.

Plus, the 34 day testing regimen that Grand Seiko is subjecting the new VFA to is likely closer to old Astronomical Observatory Chronometer standards than just a +/- 2 SPD rating, otherwise the additional 18 days of testing over normal models wouldn't be necessary. Also keep in mind that GS tests to 6 positions rather than the usual 5, and that mean daily variation is not the only measure of timing performance and that we don't know just how far Daini is taking their autism in other measures. Modern movements typically crush pre-quartz ones in terms of thermal variance and variance based on power reserve, for example.

I would be shocked if the modern VFA wasn't able to soundly beat the timing performance of all the previous quarts +/- 2 SPD watches barring the Astronomical Observatory Chronometer from GP and Daini itself.

Casio A168

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*all of the pre-quartz. Fucking auto correct.

Luckily I ordered NATO too. :)

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Sure. I guess this basically boils down to "old movements that claimed 2spd on the wrist may have underperformed that, and the new VFA that claims 2spd (centered at +1) will likely outperform". Would be nice if we had more information on what the testing criteria were.

>SARB001
dam that's lit as shit

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Is there a reason to not go analog in that price range?

Nope. SARB031. If Seiko ever confirms the 6L35 as a drop in replacement for the 6R and offers an ebauche of it, I will legitimately buy a SARB031 and put a 6L in it.

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No, you could always get a pope watch, if you want to look like a disgusting papist.

Yeah, they will probably eventually reveal them. If they do a steel VFA next year for the 50th anniversary of the VFA label, they'll probably tout the specifics of the regimen.

Also note that you will probably never see another watchmaker even attempt to adjust a smooth balance movement to this kind of level in today's market. The amount of highly skilled labor you have to throw at each movement in both adjustment and testing would be considered prohibitive by everyone else when you could just go with a free sprung balance instead.

That looks terrible, what a shitty case.

looks boring and shitty

Whelp, I guess you hate 1960s dress watches as a genre then. The SARB031 even has a domed acrylic crystal.

thats a pretty shit fake

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There's nothing more yawn inducing than a plain round case with thin, straight lugs. Grammar of design was the greatest thing that ever happened to seiko and I don't have any interest in going back to the designs before it.

Not that guy, but maybe you can get a better view from the side

The crown is a little large unfortunately

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i bought this fonr shit and giggles, its utter shit

I never thought I'd come across someone who was even more of a grammar of design fanboy than I am. I just also happen to like 1960s dress watches as a genre and don't mind Seiko making the occasional watch in a different stylistic genre.

Really? Break easily or not keep time? Either way it was only 10 bucks
You kinda pay in the waiting time though

It's not a fake. It's a blank diver. It's not sold as pretending to be a rolex

I removed the prongs from all of my zulu straps and just use the loops to tighten it, no predetermined lengths so I can tighten it to exactly what I want

just looks very rough. and cant fucking read the hands at all.

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Is it wise/worth upgrading anything on the SKX beyond the bracelet? I have a strapcode oyster on the way.

I'm thinking of getting someone to put on a 4r36, sapphire and ceramic insert. Or should i save the money towards buying a non-shitter later on?

It won't make it more valuable. If you have the passion and don't mind putting extra money into a Honda Civic, then go for it if it will make you enjoy it more. Just know what it is and isn't.

I fiddle around with my Amphibia putting new parts in, but this is mostly just for fun and I don't delude myself into thinking its worth the money

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I'm gonna put 4 leds parallel in my f-91w and maybe 1 onto the alarm circuit

Is this a bad idea

What could go wrong

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Picked this up at a local grey market shop
Can anyone ID the model?

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Where do you buy your Casio watches? They are expensive on eBay

looking online now and it looks similar to this SRPB69J but with the old cursive "Automatic" and silver hands
I don't think its fake but I don't know the exact model

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Is that a fake?

I don't think so but I'm not an expert
the caseback is open and the 4R36A movement looks identical to my other watches with 4R36B
everything else about it looks very solid which doesn't fit with most cheapo Seiko fakes

The day being blue like that is reserved for Saturday. And the hands look wrong. It says 4r36-03e2 on the dial but closest thing it looks like is the SARY055. Sorry seems fake.

it is Saturday today, I just set it to Japanese days

Post more vintage divers.

Here's a photo of the movement
Looks the same as my other Seikos with 4R

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It looks like an NH36 that they haphazardly labeled a 4R36A. Sorry about your knockoff Seiko.

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changing/re-applying lume seems like quite an involved process and easy to damage hands/indices etc. Do many places offer the service?

that's too bad then, I liked the look of it, at least it didn't cost very much

desu I might just keep it reguardless
I also saw a black one that looked similar to the SARY057 which I might check out but if it's the same sort of thing as this I'll just keep the one I have and maybe stick it on a leather strap

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How do you like my NOMOS collection?

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Amazing but I think you need an Orion

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What's the appeal of these shitty overpriced DW look alikes with ridiculous lugs other than reddit cred?

It's a scam, fucking "kraut horlogerie"

>bauhaus
I wonder who's behind this design, and this brand...

Thoughts?

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To weed out soyboy wristlets like yours.

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They're not supposed to be comparable to the big 3.
That's what Credor is for, and Credor is definitely comparable to the big 3.

GS are (dressy) sport watches with relatively minimal movement finishing, like Rolex and Omega, and lower end JLCs for instance.

*Anus

Strela on steel today, still not sure how I feel about the combo

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Small boned wristlet here. I asked in quite a few threads but I still don't have a definite answer. I need a goddamn watch that won't look huge on my shitty small wrist. My wrist circumference is just under 17cm (that would be around 6 inches).

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What kind of watch?

Depends on the bezel and how cluttered the dial is. I have a 6.5" wrist and would have no problem wearing a 42mm Speedmaster professional because they wear small and it suits the style. For a plain dialed watch with small bezel 36-38mm fits far better.

Literally anything will do, as long as it's small and not an eyesore like pic related.

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You are being too vague. Budget? Genre/Style? Mechanical or quartz?

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