would anyone care to fix the alpha patch for st v0.8.1? st.suckless.org/patches/alpha lists.suckless.org/hackers/date.html both new patches provided in the mailing list (one is mine) do not work is this the power of suckless?
Since ou guys hate systemd, i suggest you guys use openbsd.
>no linux bloat >no gnu bloat >pretty secure >no systemd at all
void and alpine are retarded choices
Joshua Clark
>void and alpine are retarded choices In what way?
Bentley Cook
you cant 100% fully escape systemd when you use gnu/linux
Zachary Hernandez
you are retarded you fully escape systemd by using alpine linux
Isaiah Brown
Or just use a non-retarded system like Gentoo without systemdick
Angel Wilson
void is retarded because of its package manager.
Lincoln Richardson
In what way is it retarded? It is much more stable than arch's aur. If some package isn't the repo you can just compile it yourself.
William Smith
>AUR is arch package manager are you retarded in the brain? And you can compile from source with custom flags and patches in Arch aswell, you just don't need it most of the time.
Luis Bell
My english is shit and I have a fever right now, so I can't write properly. I meant to say that the repo in arch is fucked up and that half of the necessary packages are in aur. What's wrong with the package manager?
Jeremiah Miller
>I meant to say that the repo in arch is fucked up what do you mean by this? >half of the necessary packages are in aur for you >What's wrong with the package manager? it's okay from what I've heard maybe he means it's practically "retarded" in comparison to more advanced package management systems like portage, paludis, guix, etc and that writing a package manager like that from scratch was "retarded" in the sense that it was pointless, since we already have pacman
shut up, you're embarrassing yourself
you better stay quiet too (unless you can elaborate on your "opinion" with actual facts and arguments)
Ryder Diaz
I meant that some packages once in a while are updated in a way that breaks compatibility with other packages, which is very frustrating. I have a few scripts that stopped working after a python update, so I had to rewrite them, even though I could have spent that time on something useful. I guess with arch you really need to read the change logs and plan out an update schedule not to break everything every few months.
Luis Perry
So what does /mg/ think of my portable setup? It's a work in progress, I'm currently waiting on a wireless card so I can distcc with other machines on my network.
I’m trying to use the most minimal window manager possible. I was first trying to go without X, using tmux to manage terminal windows, but I’ve seen there are problems with Unicode support and color management, and lack of framebuffer support in modern browsers. So I’m going with X but something very light.
Ideally there would only be one X window per workspace, so one would have for example a full screen Firefox and the other would have a full screen tmux which actually manages the terminals.
I know I can probably tweak dwm to do this but is there a better option?
Feel free to convince me this is autistic and I’ll never get shit done efficiently with this setup.
Jason Price
Wayland + Sway
Bentley Barnes
>gnu >bloat
Nolan King
What do you use to extract shit from archives?
Asher Thompson
S E X Y
Ryder Long
Does dwm even need to be tweaked to do that? It's the default behavior unless you mean you need to hit mod-b to hide the status bar.
Michael Morales
unar
Noah Perry
I'll call you slavgurls OP as long as you post those hot pics my man rsync unless you mean full system backup Have you tried fbterm for the framebuffer and GNU screen? atool, command line and comes with a bunch of commands like als to view what files are in
Jordan Reed
He's german. Heres the funny thing. Lots of russians seem to use suckless tools
Serious answer. Meme answer. coldsteel the hedgeheg
Isaiah Harris
>void >serious distro man, shut the fuck up.
Nathan Gutierrez
-t Rumpruffled Novidio
Gabriel Ross
Hi! I'm still here and posting, but I don't do as much boyposting because the meanie mods dont like it >_< heres one though don't lie, OOP! (Original Original Poster). Minimal in what way? If you mean strictly in LoC, then I guess dwm would be one of the best there. But if you mean in resource-efficiency, try either 2bwm or FrankenWM. Those are much lighter. You may need to use something like lemonbar though if you want a bar. tar -xvf If it's a zip, there should be an unzip command. >district In all seriousness though, you can't go wrong with Void.
What makes void better? I don't want to deal with no packages . I need to do serious work on this laptop. I am brain dead stupid with tech
What's wrong with those? I looked them up they seem ok
Luis Wood
>I am brain dead stupid with tech if you don't intend on learning, no distro here will be good for you. just go for solus or something. Void doesn't have a massive learning curve but you will need to do some reading and adapting.
Logan Johnson
>I don't want to deal with no packages Void actually has a surprising amount of packages for an unknown distro
Henry Carter
But solus has systemd I don't want pottering to have my credit card
I’d want to remove the tiling keybindings at the very least.
Isn’t sway basically i3 but for Wayland? I’m already using i3 and I think it’s not minimal enough.
Last I’ve heard fbterm is abandoned.
Hudson Kelly
>Isn’t sway basically i3 but for Wayland? I’m already using i3 and I think it’s not minimal enough. Same design but it's not a fork or anything. Just inspired by it (think Void to Arch).
Leo Smith
>freebsd >crux >hipster do you even motho ke motho ka botho?
Liam Miller
this thing is sooo m i n i m a l, I installed LFS on it
Alpine is not even meant to be used for that, it was made for servers and embedded systems
Christopher Foster
I use Alpine for Desktop and there are no problems.
Jonathan Thompson
>Last I’ve heard fbterm is abandoned. You mean it's finished? Minimal software can actually reach that state, it doesn't need continuous updates.
Luis Cox
Enjoy your busybox.
Jason Brooks
Literally the only problem I had was with less, so I installed it as a separate program
Adam Ward
It does because the rest is always changing
Ethan Gray
>Alpine is not even meant to be used for that, it was made for servers and embedded systems Computers weren't meant for autists arguing about an arbitrary number that is their package count, yet here we are.
Nicholas Lewis
This is why this thread is dildos. People unironically install shit like alpine like it's the new cool thing and cripple themselves.
Henry Bennett
You just don't understand what /minimal/ means. GTFO, you don't belong here.
Jaxon Reed
Stop this meme already. Nobody will believe Jow Forums about serious botnet concerns when you meme obvious free software.
Colton Gray
It doesn’t support the entire Unicode range and emoji so you can’t really call it finished.
Sebastian Powell
No, YOU don't understand what minimal means It's not a competition about who is the most minimal faggot, people like minimal software because they actually like their benefits and find them more usable than bloated shit. If you trade usability for minimalism you're retarded
Brody Thomas
Minimal doesn't mean crippling yourself, it means no unnecessary bloat while keeping your shit functional.
William Miller
>the rest is always changing and?
Eli Edwards
> LFS more minimal than *BSD are you retarded?
Thomas Lewis
Gotta ask, am I the only one that feels the suckless way of configuration is retarded? I mean, why the fuck would it be a good idea to recompile for every setting change? I can understand compiling yourself to remove/add features so the program's not bloated (has just what you need), but for things such as changing the terminal background color it's absolutely retarded.
Jacob Anderson
You can install coreutils in Alpine.
Charles Myers
>Alpine is not even meant to be used for that, >Alpine isn't made for desktops >alpine can't run de's you are right, alpine is meant to run dwm only dwm is the masterrace of wms. It is mean't to run xfce, lxde kde etc etc, it isn't a desktop distro. good okay. It's only meant for wm's and minimal programs, go use hipster unpolished void
Connor Martinez
>Unicode
Ryder Miller
All this talk without any arguments Alpine is perfectly usable Tell me any example where Alpine "cripples" you
Camden Myers
This. Don't fall for Alpine and expect everything works.
Ayden Stewart
Literally everything works.
Juan Hall
They probably don't even know what a WM is. They use GNOME desktop and think it's minimal.
Luis Miller
You can also simply skip the autistic part and start with a functional distro.