Now that the dust has settled, how do we avoid this in the future?

Now that the dust has settled, how do we avoid this in the future?

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increase natural selection difficulty

We don't, this is a laissez-faire board.

Agreed.

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Overthrow the factories and produce graphics cards for all equally

Last year I picked up my 1070 for $318 new in box. Now worthless overused mining cards cost $100+ more.

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This is actually a disgrace.

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Pack GPUs in a proper mining/ASIC form factor where there is no reason to buy gaming cards

Every day I check BTC price just to see if it's gotten below the panic threshold where mining is no longer profitable in terms of energy costs, because that's when all of the miners are going to dump their cards hard.

>mfw someday soon i could have 2x 1080 Ti for

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Keep licking that corporate boot all the way to neo-feudalism.

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Manufacturers should brick cards that are found to be mining using firmware. They should have it violate terms of use.

They will still buy the gaming cards for """return on investment""" only to realize no one wants to pay 90% of new price for burned garbage.

>he thinks the dust has settled

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>I want GPU mfrs to have a remote killswitch
Yeah how about not.

>BTC
>A currency that moved away from GPU mining around 2012
>Causing a mass sell-off of GPUs used for mining

I think you probably should look at Eth or Monero instead...

On topic: Hoping that Vega's come down in price really hard so that I can finally get one to replace the 1070 Ti (bought at MSRP in case anyone is wondering) that got because I couldn't get a Vega card anywhere close to MSRP.

Same, but with a 1080. Fuck NVIDIA. I want to buy some gaming monitors and not get jewed ona stupid gsync module. I should be able to sell my 1080 for the price of a Vega 64, hell I'd even take a 56 just to use adaptive sync.

I almost fell for it
have a for your efforts

Both of those currencies are largely driven by the Bitcoin price, they tend to rise and fall with Bitcoin.
Bitcoin currently represents the health of the crytocurrency market.

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They are using the free market to their advantage so we use the free market to our advantage and hire hitmen

>2018
>violating the NAP

>2018
>Thinking its 2015

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Serious question, why haven't ASICs been made for all the other cryptoshits to make GPU mining obsolete?

Because the morons that wrote the code wanted to make mining """more accesable""" not realizing that the same assholes who buy asics would just buy up all the gpus. SO rather than making mining better they just made all other cpu usage worse. This also had a big impact in ram hikes as more ram modules were needed for all these cards.

We can't, but as consumers we have to tell people to NOT buy second hand GPU since

As much as I support this hypothesis, ram hikes are not from the gpu volume.

GDDR5/HBM/HBMII does not run your computer.

>RAM hikes are mainly the effect of mobile expansion.

I could have used any of those cards for 3D rendering and be happy, even with one. Now, after mining becomes unprofitable they'll probably just throw all of those in a dumpster and never think of them ever again.

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>GDDR5/HBM/HBMII does not run your computer.
But it's produced by the same fabs, dumbshit, and those have limited capacity to assign.

Just buy an old MacPro.

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Yeah but it put a lot more pressure on the fabs. A lot of the same raw materials are used.

>they'll probably just throw all of those in a dumpster
no, they are going to sell it for the MSRP to faggots like or

Has the dust actually settled? Are the prices actually back to normal?

T. Doesn't follow gpu prices

Getting close. 1060 6gb and RX 580 8GB are hovering around 350

I was looking at buying an nvidia card the other day and prices still seemed high especially considering current gen architecture is what, 2 years old at this point?

Not sure if I can justify buying shit at the moment all things considered.

>found to be mining using firmware
How?

>Serious question, why haven't ASICs been made for all the other cryptoshits to make GPU mining obsolete?
Some algorithms were specifically designed to make ASIC design very difficult. All of them rely on memory-hardness, i.e. speed of memory, which is near optimal in commodity hardware but expensive / difficult to replicate.

Ethereum went one step further and not only requires fast memory, but also lots of it. Gigabytes.

>please drink verification can to continue

What's stopping producers just producing more? Why are there shortages to begin with?

Why drive prices down when you can sell a smaller controlled stock for more?
This is one of the biggest failings of capitalism.

Production for these cards hasn't improved. That's why there's a shortage.
>The production wouldn't hold a candle to mobile devices and IOT

Yeah I guess so.

Optimum profits are obtained where the derivative of profits with respect to production is zero. If they produce more, more people will have it but the price will be lower, and they won't make more profit.

There is no shortage. Once you verify a circuit it's easy to produce it.

>Socialist who thinks he's not a socialist calls our system bad
Lel.

can i have a quick rundown

>how do we avoid this in the future?
There's no future.

Buy GPUs in bulk containers without the individual shelve cardboard box to save money and waste to clean up after unboxing.

>Getting close
>about a hundred over MSRP on the low-midrange in terms of size

There's literally no way to without making an alternative, more powerful miner for etherium.

Just implement minimum IQ required for most jobs and the market will do the rest