I feel like this general is dead. Fuck my gay life
Dominic Miller
features are bloat doing things is harmful 0 > 1
Leo Kelly
it's not dead it's minimal.
Jace Jones
Two questions:
1) Is there any reason not to use btrfs at all times?
2) How do you keep package counts low? I feel like I can install any distro, and by the time I get i3 set up, and audio working, etc. I'm already at like 800-1000 packages.
Wyatt Sanchez
package count doesn't really matter at the end of the day. Ram usage does.
The lower the ram usage the more minimal your system actually is.
If I remember correctly not all distros read packages the same way. So sometimes packages will be bundled and give the appearance of less installed, depending on the distro you use.
Connor Barnes
1) It's relatively slow, both in terms of CPU and disk time. It doesn't have a lot to offer vs. ext4/xfs + LVM for single disk deployments unless you're a butterfuss power user, and it's a lot more unreliable.
2) Fuck package count.
Jonathan Cox
Are you doing 3gigs without anything running? That's bad. You should be at 110mib with xorg and your wm running.
Angel Wilson
I literally said in that post that I have loads of shit running. It's mostly palemoon using up the RAM.
I might stop in june. post ram usage with nothing running at all expect for terminal.
Jayden Roberts
>Is there any reason not to use btrfs at all times? Parity raid afaik is still fucked and will lead to corruption. I guess it would be fine for RAID10, but I don't know much about it. >You should be at 110mib with xorg and your wm running. not him, but mine is usually at 70mib or so with xorg and the wm
Adrian Harris
>not him, but mine is usually at 70mib or so with xorg and the wm
it depends on different computers and shit mane but usually it's 60mib to 120mib
William Gray
Any alternative to zsh that actually has features? If not, what's the best zsh plugin manager to use?
>>Hipster minimal >FreeBSD Can we replace that deprecated bullshit with DragonflyBSD already?
Liam Kelly
Is there truly no terminal emulator better than urxvt?
Liam Mitchell
>DWM/ST is SO MINIMAL! >proceeds to install 20 packages to build it
why do you use this shit?
Luis King
Have you tried termite?
Andrew Morris
Arch is bloat
Anthony Roberts
Shoo shoo
John Smith
If you don't already need dwm's build dependencies, you're the exact sort of person it excludes by design.
Benjamin Mitchell
is it more /minimal/?
Carter Jones
No but it's better.
Jonathan Smith
I'm trying to set up a minimal gentoo Base with x.org and i3 and all base meta packages for qt and gtk I'm on arround 700 packages most of them I don't know Wanna manage software I use by myself Portage is good but the whole system base is in danger by using it which packages I could remove?
Isaac Myers
Arch Linux isn't bloated? Hmm well alright
Isaiah Reed
It's time we put that meme in the ground. With the Arch Build System, you can split your packages and set your flags all the way you like them.
Justin James
>you can split your packages and set your flags What does this mean?
Adrian Hill
Means that epic memers don't have a leg to stand on. It was the last piece of "evidence" that Arch is bloated. Don't worry about though, splitting packages and setting USE flags is so autistic, you'd be on Gentoo if that was something you cared about.
Zachary Gonzalez
He means manually creating your own arch packages using the build system for literally everything. At that point just use LFS for fuck's sake.
Evan Martinez
Is linux mint good?
Ryan Turner
good for granny and people coming directly from windows. Not minimal though.
Cameron Sanders
No, use Debian with XFCE instead
Christian Ross
>People coming directly from windows Me, I'm tired of using windows, is linux mint a good choice?
Dylan Barnes
Probably. Ask
Sebastian Collins
Thanks
Jackson Cook
Mint has maximum just werks, but it only werks until the next major upgrade. Sometimes not even that long.
How come Slackware isn't on the minimal distro list? Was there a discussion about it? I haven't been on Jow Forums for awhile so im not sure if anything happened
Lucas Gonzalez
Yeah it was a part of my distro list, uwu but now I guess OOP (original op) or whoever made this is just doing whatever with it now. I really don't mind it too much, as it is at least inclusive of BSD, Crux, Source mage, and a few of the more obscure choices. It's not exactly as i'd like it, but i'm too tired of arguing about it to bother. This was my OS list pastebin, complete with useful links for each choice pastebin.com/XBTXuip5
Dominic Johnson
what happened to the pastebin in the OP that explained how to set up ALSA and not use pulseaudio?
No, if you have entered this thread there is a death squad in place, which will "take care of you", if you ever decide to break these extremely vaguely defined rules about what "minimalism" is.
Ryan Hernandez
this. install dwm or kill yourself
Charles Hill
Take dwm and shove it up your ass
Nolan Reyes
I have. It's so minimal you dont need to shove it
Jack Martinez
Just because dwm uses less ram than openbox does not mean it’s less minimal, I will keep using openbox, and keep participating in these threads
Landon Harris
Openbox is bloat. im sorry for your loss of brain cells
Juan Bell
No it’s not
Wyatt Rogers
try dwm, take the dwm pill user
Jack Peterson
Nah go FrankenWM. It's somehow even lighter than dwm. Not that this matters at all (dwm is more than light enough), but it might appeal to your autism
>uzbl's webkit rendering engine has network support fuck that, i want an html renderer that has zero network, css, and js support. networking would come from curl or wget and feed into the renderer. my own styling would be used for every website. if i need js i could pipe into an external js interpreter if that's possible/feasible
Hudson Diaz
Add awesome wm to the list of DEs. It's light and simple to use due to sane defaults and intuitive shortcuts. You can use it without any configuration whatsoever.
Michael Hughes
I've installed Void but [[ -z $DISPLAY....]] in .bash_profile won't automatically startx on login. How does Void handle this?
Ryder Cruz
Also, how do I enable suspend on lid close? If anything, are there any good online resources for void?
Never mind, I'm retarded. There's a forum. I don't really see how this is any lighter than Arch though. Does runit really make that much of a difference?
Parker Watson
Put 'exec yourWM/DE' into .xinitrc and then execute startx on login. Or install a logon manager, like slim.
Suspend, sleep, etc. worked out of the box for me so can't help you there.
Also, I find the IRC channel to be a better place for support than the forum.
And yes, runit makes a big difference. My 2013 laptop boots in under 10s.
Landon Price
No u
Adrian Cox
>>proceeds to install 20 packages to build it are you by any chance on a windows based disrribution ?
Zachary Johnson
Of course not. The point is that if you don’t do any C development work, everything you need to build dwm/st is bloat. Actually, even if you’re a C developer chances are you’ll never need the headers needed to build dwm.
Ethan Campbell
Is Xmonad bloat? I like the idea of programming my WM in Haskell.
Elijah Morgan
Is there a way I can get the active window and the program bar to two different colors? As well as font color.
Can we change the name to /fmg/ friendly minimalism general
Brayden Scott
>And yes, runit makes a big difference. My 2013 laptop boots in under 10s. I also do notice runit is considerably lighter and faster than systemd. I don't have much experience with OpenRC distros, so I can't say how they compare, but runit is super comfy
Carson Green
^.^
Jason Perry
I know it's dwm, I'm made the changes to the config. Looking back, I changed the foreground, but I can't tell what window I'm on unless I open a program because that's handled by the background.
Jack Thomas
>t. brainlet
Brayden Young
How much RAM are you taking up? Might go to rofi for the aesthetics.
Hunter Reed
Does anybody else do this on Windows? Disabling animations make the entire OS miles faster to operate.
Someone knows ClamAV? I was thinking on using it on a container inside of a server, so I can download things safe there for shady places.
Tyler Cooper
why does that pic make my dick hard
Jackson Lopez
Because it includes systemd by default, i think it would be smart to replace Arch in the OP with Parabola. on top of being free, Parabola rolls with OpenRC. (though a systemd version is avaliable as well so we should also clarify the one we mean.) I would reccomend artix, the continuation of Arch OpenRC, but the current release is not very stable due to the youth of the distro.
Jason Rivera
>please add more meme distros cause i said so!
Anthony Hill
> /mg/ - Software and Hardware Minimautism General
Michael Brown
>FreeDOS >Minimal Just rename this the brain minimalism general and get it over with
Brayden Hill
owo here I would recommend if OPs include an Arch in their list (since they're probably gonna do it anyway), they should specify Parabola with OpenRC.
Grayson Davis
Antix is waaaaay older than Arch openRc. It's not a young distro you retard.
Blake Johnson
It uses a lot if RAM compared to other WM's
Blake Scott
you must be thinking of something else, because artix was made to replace arch openrc and manjaro openrc