If you want help: >State the budget & CURRENCY for your build >List your uses, e.g. Gaming, Video Editing, VM Work >For monitors, include purpose (e.g., photoediting, gaming) and graphics card pairing (if applicable)
CPUs: >NO i5 7500/7600K or i7 7700/K. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY COFFEE LAKE >NO R3 1200/1300X or R5 1400/1500X. THEY ARE DEFUNCT AND SUPERSEDED BY THE R3 2200G AND R5 2400G >G4560 - non-gaming (light tasks) or bare minimum gaming builds with a dedicated graphics card >R3 2200G - Budget builds (best with OC + fast RAM) or for gaming WITHOUT a graphics card >R5 1600 / i5 8400 - Great gaming (especially the i5 8400) or multithreaded use CPUs (especially the R5 1600) >R7 / Used Xeon / Threadripper / i7 - Heavy Multi-Tasking / VM Work / Mixed use
RAM: >Current CPUs benefit from high speed RAM; 3000-3200 MHz is ideal >Before buying RAM for Ryzen, check your Mobo's QVL or look for user reports
Graphics cards: >Crypto-Currency miners have driven GPU prices up (particularly Radeon) 1080p >MSRP of standard 1080p cards: 1050Ti, 140USD; 1060 3GB, $200; 1060 6GB, $230; RX 570 4GB, $170; RX 580 4GB, $200 >GTX 1070 if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 1440p >GTX 1070/Ti and 1080 are standard choices; currently overpriced >GTX 1080Ti if you're looking for very high (100+) framerates and you have a CPU and monitor to match 2160p (4K) >GTX 1080Ti
General: >PLAN YOUR BUILD AROUND YOUR MONITOR IF GAMING >A 240GB or larger SSD is almost mandatory; consider m.2 form factor
I think a ryzen 1700 will be safer. Though a r 1600 should be fine cause pubg is shit optimized apparently. Pcbg has been dead for awhile so you should wait for later today and try posting again. I say buy ryzen though because its better for streaming. You can do alil research on YouTube if you wish there is a lot of material on there
Nathan Jones
I wish I could find good stats on how good the wraith stealth cooler is. I'm kinda poor and might need to upgrade my cpu fan on my 2400g but I don't wanna end up getting something that's not any better.
What Seasonic is that? Is that the M12II? If it is, go for a better model, it's an old group-regulated design.
Caleb James
>CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.90 @ OutletPC) >CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.85 @ OutletPC) >Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg) >Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg Business) >Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.89 @ OutletPC) >Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SC GAMING Video Card ($334.88 @ OutletPC) >Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($91.49 @ Amazon) >Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($53.98 @ Newegg) >Total: $1138.97
Better?
Charles Edwards
Anyone have experience with custom loops? I can’t figure out how to get every drop of water out of the system. I need to put in my second 1080 ti and then fill with coolant so it needs to be completely flushed
Much better, independently regulated PSUs will be much healthier for your components. If you're gaming a 1 or 2TB hard drive would be good to have as secondary storage, but you can always add that later on.
Sebastian Campbell
> Yeah, I forgot to mention I have a 7200RPM 1TB HDD left over from a previous build
William White
I am planning to get myself 4 new case coolers since my current ones are pretty old and loud. They are nothing special and were included with the case when I bought it. Do you guys have a cost-effective suggestions?
Grayson Jones
Building a PC for someone and they had some requirements >wifi adapter >specific case >dvd drive So beyond those things, how does it look? I won't be ordering anything just yet, but I have a Ryzen and Intel build currently.
Intel build is far better honestly, as someone who thinks AMD and Intel are more or less equal. Either get an i5-8400 if your friend doesnt plan to overclock, or get a 2TB HDD and put the extra money towards getting the DDR4-3200 RAM from the AMD build though. DDR4-2400 is just awful.
Ryan Sanders
Just remember that they don't include tax on the prices.
Thomas Watson
Looking at getting more HDDs but I can't remember which brands are garbage, anyone got any of the failure rate graphics?
Michael Garcia
I couldn't find any B360 motherboard that supports RAM above 2666 MHz. wtf is up with that???????? It was so fucking hard to find RAM on the QVL.
Thomas Brooks
I just read about individually regulated PSUs (sorry newfag) and still have one question. How do I recognize them? Does the packaging say what they are? I am asking, because I've never stumbled across this when I bought mine.
Wyatt Barnes
I guess getting an X370 board is the safest option, if only for the for the support for better RAM. Here is an updated build with new memory/mobo.
Second thing, Noctua coolers are expensive, get something like the Cryorig H7 or another decent tower cooler. You could also find a cheaper SSD, the performance difference across most isn't that significant. Put the extra money into more storage or a better cpu/gpu.
Nicholas Turner
Looking for some more input, I want to upgrade from my current rig and I already have the GPU, PSU and hard drives. Are there any components I should change? Will I have any problems with getting a RX570 in this case? The RAM is 3000 mHz, is there really much of a difference to go to 3200?
And no, I don't care about gaymen performance, my 3570k handles all the games I want to play, I want better multitasking and productivity performance.
Check if F4-3200C16 or C14 are cheaper and try to get the Tuf B350M-Plus or the GA-AB350M-Gaming 3. I believe the Focus G Mini will have more airflow and it's cheaper
>memory is on the QVL >case has 315mm max gpu length (longest rx 570 is 310mm) >ryzen 7 is good >mobo seems fine (prices probably different for you) I would get a different case unless you are dead set on that, it doesn't have good airflow. Something with fans in the front would be an improvement. Someone recommended a Focus G Mini, but if you don't want a window case you should look around.
Yeah, I decided to go with a Z370 board in this post
Carson Hall
Thanks a lot! I was also thinking about picking a cheaper gpu and changing it maybe 2 or 3 years later. For now just want to play total war warhammer and heavily modded skyrim (with enbs) without any fps problem. Would a 1060 be enough?
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Mini Video Card (£167.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Antec - Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Coolermaster - B500 v.2 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Any thoughts? Is 3200 really worth it, or should I just stay with 2400? May save the money and instead switch to a better, modular PSU + CPU cooler.
Noah Anderson
>aoc
get the asus vg248-something, or a benq xl2411
Gavin White
Is the Asus MG278Q comparable in quality? I might as well get that size for the price difference.
Liam Foster
Sorry I was looking at the wrong one. I meant VG278Q. Long night...
Josiah Wright
Stick with the 2400 memory, overclock it to 2666 with looser timings. Use the money you save to get a better motherboard. I have the Tomahawk, it overclocks like crap and gets hot so your shitty case won't be good for it. Get a B350 Prime from Asus. And if you have any cash left over get a Hyper 212 Turbo LED.
Andrew Barnes
im not a fan of 1080 27", no point spending up to a hundred extra on a slighyly larger screen imo
asus are good quality from what i know anyway, im having a benq XL2411 being delivered today, you could consider that.
Leo Sanchez
>LED I was thinking either Cryorig or Noctua. ehy does it oc like crap, bad bios? the b250m from msi is doing well for me, but no oc options ofc.
Jackson Gonzalez
No it's not a bad BIOS. It's a bad VRM design. That's the Voltage Regulator Module if you're a complete noob. The cooling on this motherboard's MOSFETSs is so poor that when I had it with my 1500X in my previous OEM case with only a single fan for exhaust, the fucking thing couldn't even handle the Ryzen's BOOST CLOCKS in Cinebench without blacking out, let alone a fucking overclock. I literally had to turn Precision Boost OFF in the BIOS just for it to stay stable. Of course once I got my CoolerMaster Masterbox in and stuck three fans on the front it could manage up to a 4Ghz overclock, but I'm pretty sure my 1500X can do more than that and I'm pretty sure those VRMs are regularly hitting the 100C mark at 1.4V full load, which is why I had to dial my OC down to 3.9 so the fucking thing won't die in the space of a year. TL;DR MSI's VRMs are garbage city and I would not trust them if you're overclocking. And since you're getting a 1600 I assume you're going to hate that.
Jaxon Thompson
Cryorig is fine. Noctua is great if you're going for a silent build but otherwise they are hilariously overpriced. I recommended the Turbo LED because I know for a fact it has an easy AM4 mounting mechanism where you don't have to switch out the backplate. I also own it and I know it performs well and comes with a good thermal paste which is important. I would recommend the Noctua NH-U12s if you had more money but it's like 60 dollars new and that ain't worth it, and the Hyper212 will easily outpace all of Noctua's cheaper offerings. I don't know if Cryorig makes any good cheap AM4 coolers so make sure whatever you buy is AM4 compatible.
Dylan Wright
Alright my good person of foreign descent, thanks for the heads up. Ill look into Asus boards. And yes, if I decide to go with Ryzen ill be overcocking for sure, haven't done so since I had my Core2Duo E8400 running 3.8GHz on a trash Gigabyte mobo many years back. Intel can fuck off with this locked meme.
Wyatt Howard
The PC Mate is fine for a 1600 with a small overclock but for the 1700 I'd get the B350-F Rog Strix, AX370 K5, K7 or Gaming 5 or the more expensive Crosshair VI and this monitor pcpartpicker.com/product/PmyFf7/acer-monitor-umfg6aab01
Brayden Stewart
What cpu and temps you runningnwitg the 212? Also is the thermal paste pre-applied? Im a sperg when it comes to doing the most basic things, Id probably end up getting thermal paste in the fucking PCI-e slot by accident or something l.
Colton Johnson
No you get a small tube of fine CoolerMaster paste with it but don't worry it's easy to apply. At 3.9Ghz on the 1500X with 1.36 volts I never reach 70C, hell even on Aida64 it only goes slightly over 60. It's neato, but don't expect silence, though it's silent enough when idling at 30C. Keep in mind this is Greece we're talking about so the environment temps are always over 20C.
Yeah man no problem.
Lincoln Taylor
Hm okay, wasn't aware they had VRM problems so good to know. How's this look?
Go back to Brazil and/or Israel you monkey-eating kike.
Why did you post this twice?
David Robinson
It's for someone else, I have a feeling they'll want something else but yes that one has Cherry MX Red switches. They also have a large external hard drive and don't need any more storage at the moment.
Angel Hill
Money isn't an issue, I just really don't want to spend money on upgrades I don't need. I never even go over 4GB memory usage, and is 3000 really any better over 2400 for anything outside of gayming? I'd rather get a 1700 and water cooling instead (assuming I'd need it)
Autistic about link placement, forgot to www Great, they could save some money by getting a Enthoo Pro M but the 460X is good
Jaxson Kelly
They are dead set on the white 460X, and it's probably the only thing they can have a say in getting because it's purely for aesthetics, leaving the technical parts up to me. They aren't very tech savvy.
Wyatt Gutierrez
I5-8400 has a RAM limit of DDR4-2666
John Young
Which one should I buy?
Ryzen 5 2400G for £130 ($140)
Ryzen 3 2200G for £100 ($180)
Ryder Lee
Why the fuck did I write down £100? It's £85 ($120)
Blake Moore
Consider the 620 EVO for a little more
Wyatt Wilson
Those fucking prices don't look SRP. If the price difference is that tiny, then you're better off going for the 2400G.
Joshua Cook
I'd get the 2400G if your budget isn't too tight for the extra cores and the wraith spire
Evan Butler
Generic question. I have a laptop with i7 4702HQ and GT 750M. I only play Fortnite and use Photoshop. I'm tired of this laptop and want to buy a reasonably priced desktop instead. Suggestions? 750M is not very good at playing games, so something with better performance would be great.
Angel Taylor
I completely and utterly fucked that entire post up.
It depends on the budget, if you're getting a 1060 the 1600 is great but if you're limited to getting a 1050ti or something like that it's better to get a 2200G and pair it with a better GPU
Liam Ward
>Intel nerds will shill this when it has memory limitations and no multithreading
Angel Stewart
Does the B150 motherboard support overclocking? I haven't kept up since Haswell.
Budget? Do you have a keyboard, mouse and monitor from an old PC?
Evan Jones
isnt the 2200G like £75
If you have around £100 to spend, may as well get the 1600 for a little more.
Bentley Allen
no lmao
Charles Gutierrez
I work with an external monitor, mouse and keyboard now, so have all those. Budget would be €400-€500
Connor Allen
Is it finally time to move on from my 2500k and grab myself an i5 8600k instead? Thanks to the whole mining fun I'll probably be stuck with a 770 for the time being, but is there any reason I should hold off on an upgrade for the CPU until then as well?
guys should i get i7-8700k or just i5-8600k if i'm from i5-7500 ? will there be intel refresh later this year? or should i just upgrade to ryzen 1600+ asrock pro 4+ cryorig h7? is the ) RYZEN GEIL DDR4 RGB EVO X 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin 3200MHz pretty good or nay?
Christopher Rivera
Still shits on ryzen in gayms. Go run your precious cinebench once more, fag.
Nathan Campbell
Yeah, the Focus G Mini looks better, I'd actually rather have a window case than not, I'll go with that. Thanks!
Brandon Lopez
2400G or 1600 for home server with VMs and dockers?
Nolan Hill
Okay, I made something. What do you guys think?
It's £490 (=$690) without the monitor, whereas it's only $620 on the US store, but that's fine.
Here's a link without a monitor, I need advice on that and the other fine details. I'm fine with the iGPU, I'll get a proper one later.
115°C on the motherboard, what are you cooking there?
Ethan Harris
Software reading is broken.
It is around 20C in the bios.
Leo James
Thanks man! Appreciate it. Bookmarked your results.
Anthony Ramirez
I've ordered a ASRock Z370 Extreme4 but instead I got a ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming K6.
I noticed from yhe website that the Fatal1ty is even better but it doesn't have some feature like Support to Purity Sound4. Should I keep it?
Also, they sent me a CX750M instead of a TX650M which I will replace af Should I still get the TX650M or go with Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650?
Carson Davis
>B150 No
Ayden Flores
Ryzen 2400G or 1600 for a home server?
It'll be running 1-2 VMs that I can remote into, Dockers of Gitlab, Plex, Web Server. Generally be a development server.
Cameron Sullivan
Renting will be much more economically feasible.
Blake Roberts
No, because the Plex server will have a TV aerial connected so I can stream TV around. Also, there will be a large amount of content I already have, and I don't really want to upload it.
Tyler Allen
Any news on some company making a case similar to the node 804? I fucking hate these big ass gaym0r towers with fucking LEDs all over the place. I just want a small neat looking box for a shitload of drives.
Aren’t the new Ryzen CPUs supposed to drop very soon?
Grayson Evans
On the laptop side of things, I am on the fence better the new Core i7-8750H (6 cores @ 2.2 GHz Buy iGPU) and the Core i7-8705G (4 cores @ 3.1 GHz with 4GB Vega GPU).
