>choosing an os except debian and ubuntu have to tried in live first unless you want to install [if debian's installer doesn't fail] to find out it doesn't work right or is buggy
yes, especially since there are distros like arch use a bsd then
Austin Cox
Is it hard to Debian netinst am noob
Levi Barnes
like windows xp basically
Kayden Brown
I already use Mint, I've installed mint, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Elementary and even Debian xfce but never netinst, I wanna know if it's harder to install, never installed arch either
Angel Richardson
Not terribly. You get either a GUI or Ncurses installer, and you just go through it. When you get to the step where it asks what DE, uncheck everything. Your install should finish and leave you at a TTY after reboot, where you can then do whatever you want (Install X or Sway, configure shit, etc)
Carter Gomez
it's easy
Andrew Murphy
This gives me confidence!
Isaac Wood
Great! I hope you’ll give it a go soon! Also, do u like kittens? UwU
is there a list of resources to get common TUI software working with xterm/urxvt "meta key sets 8th bit" instead of sending meta as escape sequence? the delay between keystrokes in some programs has annoyed me forever and i want to send single characters for meta- keys or for the ESC key
on a similar note, i've noticed urxvt doesn't support CSI sequences directly, you have to prefix a sequence with "ESC [" for them to work. nowadays we're eight-bit safe; why are we still using legacy hacks for this shit?
anyone use netBSD? Is it good as a minimal distro?
Isaiah Peterson
never mind, ignore my post, it most likely wouldn't work right with UTF-8
Julian Jenkins
I love you!
Joseph Allen
the only thing out of my post that could still work is swapping "ESC+[" with "CSI" because that's within the control code range, and utf-8 was specifically designed to be backwards-compatible with that. but sending characters like "meta-A" wouldn't work because that's in the unreserved UTF-8 bytespace
so, would my second request be feasible still? does anyone know how to get a terminal emulator to accept the high-bit control codes correctly? or are we stuck with prepending escape characters to everything?
Aiden White
>anyone use netBSD? Dude, fuck off
Oliver Baker
I hear it’s used on ancient hardware like VAX and shit, so yeah it should be pretty lightweight.
Henry Ortiz
> The minimal configuration for a NetBSD/i386 system requires 4M of RAM and about 40M of disk space. For a full installation (including source and X11), at least 8M of RAM and 200M of disk space are recommended. It's probably the most lightweight operating system that can run most modern linux targeting software.
There's one retard who seems to spend about 12 hours a day spouting a fantasy about Alpine being 'anti-GNU Linux'. It isn't, just bash+coreutils and glibc don't fit the profile they want for their minimal install.
It counts unused packages that need to be garbage collected too. Upgrading and garbage collection are two different steps and sometimes nixos users put it off so they keep old generations around in case they want to rollback. It'd be like doing an upgrade on your machine where none of the old libraries or software is removed and each version counts as a separate package.
Alexander Williams
Is there any way to reliably access this using tools on linux just to try it out first? A while back I tried connecting using tools I can't remember now (things like diod and 9fs I think) but couldn't really get it.
Juan Gonzalez
Plan 9 is retarded
Noah Ortiz
That isn't true in my case though. Pretty sure it package count jumped like 2000 because of texlive-full Whereas in a distro like arch, texlive-full would be 1-3 packages max, I'm pretty sure nix considers each additional LaTeX macro as a completely new package
Elijah Butler
Explain.
Anthony Turner
Yeah neofetch needs to rethink how they count packages on nixos. I think all it does right now is list the number of directories in /nix/store
Blake Jones
u use it and explain
Michael Diaz
no u
Joseph Hall
They built an operating system that had no backwards compatibility for any software written before it and expected for it to be a success.
Adam Brown
It doesn't really matter, we can be more minimal than everyone else WITH more packges ;)
Sebastian Phillips
gas the nixos users
Eli Murphy
Arch Linux and Openbox, the prefect combo
Joseph Taylor
nixos user here. I don't think I would call it "minimal" but it depends on your definition.
Some people might consider it bloat instead. Although in my opinion you can't really be a true fan of computers and programming without also finding the concept of declarative package management to be really cool. Although that still might not excuse it as bloat for some people, for me it does. It's too elegant and satisfies my autism way too much to not be acceptable levels of bloat.
I still would prefer guixsd though. I really hate that nixos uses systemd right now. Nix of course would make it really easy to have and maintain a non-systemd option, but at the moment it just doesn't seem like anyone's putting in the work to get there.
Sebastian Perez
i've been getting into fucker of trouble with AMDGPU or ati, linux is such a clusterfuck, better than windows still a clusterfuck
Juan Gray
arch linux and dwm is the best
Zachary Morris
>dwm No. I don't want to f*cking recompile the damn thing every time I reconfigure it.
Joseph Walker
>recompile the damn thing every time I reconfigure it.
takes 2 seconds. also im on debian so it's in the repos. i like vanilla dwm, it's comfy
Lincoln Fisher
How often do you reconfigure it? And I think there was a patch where it would it read the config from X resources.
>not including bspwm what are you even doing with your life? t. i3fag
Jace Torres
>bspwm more like bloatspwm HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jose Gomez
backwards compatibility is bloat besides, it's a research OS and for that it has been a relative success
Elijah Evans
>at the moment it just doesn't seem like anyone's putting in the work to get there you know you could start working on that and getting people interested
another issue i have with nixos is the config. do i really have to learn yet another config syntax to manage my system and its programs?
Noah Nelson
OP here, I got really sore and had to ask the ER for help, maybe getting 3 dildos at once in my asshole wasn't the right choice, it wasn't even minimal Guess I'll try choking on one to recover now and spend some time on omegle while self-fisting
Luis Reyes
If you want something above simply looking from month + [29-31], try calcurse.
If you're using stock labs plan 9 there's srv(1) and a handful of other programs in plan9port that let you jack into plan 9 boxes. 9front has since secured their connections and can't be accessed from unix outside of drawterm. Patches are a work in progress.
There's APE. Not sure what exactly you're on about here. All software gets ported to a platform other than the one it was written on if you want to use it on a new platform.
Why not DOS failed at backwards compatibility with UNIX v6? You probably boot Windows at home or at work, you either installed a compatibility layer (APE on 9) or you port the software. This is a non-argument.
Jose Davis
It probably takes less time to recompile than to crawl through settings and restart services. I think you'll survive. Not like you're being asked to recompile gcc.
