5k monitors only work on Macs

Get creative.

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What are you talking about? 5K monitors work with any computer that has DisplayPort 1.4

Then hack the display controller in your Mac. It should be DVI compatible. You're going to have to do a bit of soldering

Depends on DPI and viewing distance.

Saying there's a clear limit in pure pixel count is bullshit.
On a normal desktop viewing distance, if you don't want to move your neck a lot, there might be a concrete number.

What am I looking at?

The monitor only accepts Thunderbolt input. I may have been thinking about 2x DP 1.2, but I can't find the article I read on it. Regardless you can search "5k ultrafine hackintosh" on Google and you'll see people getting limited to 3200x1800.

I'm going to sell the Mac.

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If you downscale resolutions higher than 5k to 5k on MacOS, you can still tell it's not as sharp. You can also tell when things are aliased.
Phones are the only displays that are edging on "higher than we can possibly see" territory.

I've been using 2x Ultrafine 4Ks for almost 2 years, and couldn't imagine switching away from them. It's amazing how much better text and standard websites actually look.

>there might be a concrete number.
not everyones eyes are the same, so no, there wont ever be.

ultrabookreview.com/10579-laptops-thunderbolt-3/

A hackintosh I finished a minute ago. Sleep, FaceTime, iMessage, audio, and wifi required some extra work but the rest is pretty well ready OOTB.

medium.com/@ambroselittle/running-the-lg-ultrafine-27-5k-display-on-windows-10-e8b58cb9bf43
He uses a thunderbolt output and only gets 4k on Windows.

4K doesn't give me enough workspace. I've been using 5k for the past 2 years.

What resolution?

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That was on a 1080p monitor. On my TV it does 4k with retina scaling working.

I played around with both and prefer 2x 4K vs the 5K UltraFine.

Next week when my iMac Pro comes in, I'll have two vertical 4Ks on either side of the 5K, really looking forward to that.

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>4K doesn't give me enough workspace. I've been using 5k for the past 2 years.

i don't get it, most of your screen is filled with nothing... must be a mac thing...

5K displays were for working with native resolution 4K and with all the tools open at the same time anyways.

>So if PC users
Can always use Dells ""8K""

>i don't get it, most of your screen is filled with nothing... must be a mac thing...
Because I'm doing nothing right now. When I'm actually doing things I usually end up increasing the resolution past 5k.

>5K displays were for working with native resolution 4K and with all the tools open at the same time anyways.
That's advertising. An iMac is not going to be doing any 4k video editing. The only iMac that realistically could would be the $5000 iMac Pro. Might as well get 8k at that point though.

I don't like dual monitors, especially on MacOS where it's basically an after-thought.

There's nothing stopping Macfags from using it either. The problem for everyone is price. I wanted to spend maybe $700 on a display, not $3000.

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Can you downscale 5120x2880 onto your 4k TV at 60hz, or does it get capped to 30hz?

Is there a point in going 5k and fucking up the scalability of 4k for even bigger density that you won't even notice unless your monitor is the size of a giant TV?

>for even bigger density that you won't even notice
You don't get a larger density. The iMac 5k is around 200 PPI. If you don't notice the difference between high PPI and low PPI displays then you seriously have vision issues.

In what ways is it an afterthought?

I love having multiple monitors, each with tons of virtual desktops.

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I remember hearing it was buggy as fuck, and things like the menubar and dock didn't work very well over multiple displays.
That an I really have no use or desire for more than one large monitor.

What actual reason is there to go beyond 1440p?

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I've been using various forms of MacOS for years with no or minimal issues with multiple displays

Viewing distance, and monitor size, exactly what your chart displays. Are you sitting across the room from your monitor?

>$3000 macshit fagbook overheats and throttles to pentium 3 tier performance
>a $600 acer from walmart utterly btfos even applel's $10,000 trashcan
How do mactoddlers deal with this?

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Because some of us like having a display that isn't pixelated garbage, especially on things like videos, thumbnails, avatars, etc.

They probably improved it then. I don't even remember when I read about the mulit-screen issues.

cringe

According to this chat at around 1.5 feet you'd want 8k for a 27" display.

Well lets say we use computers like normal people at at least arms length away. 1440p is perfectly clear for an 27inch monitor.
Sure if you go way beyond 27 inch you'd want 4k but do people do that for a pc monitor?

You can clearly see the difference between 1440p and 5k at 3 feet or more. Why does Jow Forums love to defend low resolution displays so much?

what that dual monitor arm is this? i need this in my life

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>macshit is still stuck at 5k while pc already has 8k
How do mactoddlers deal with this?

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>perfectly clear

Being able to see detail, and no longer being able to see pixels, are two different things.

Herman Miller Flo.

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You can use an 8k monitor on a Mac. You can't use a 5k monitor on a PC without jumping through oops.

>buying a 5K monitor when 8K exists
That's like those retards buying a 1440p monitor instead of 4K...

>Spending $3000 on a monitor that will likely be $1000 in a year or two

Sure, but how large is the difference between seeing detail at 1m distance between different resolutions?

>macs aren't PCs
How to spot a vtard 101

You can't use macshit without setting your house on fire. You can use a PC in any setting.

>4K doesn't give me enough workspace. I've been using 5k for the past 2 years.
whoa... so that's ADHD i've been hearing about here on Jow Forums

There's these things called signals, and they rely on arbitrary standards.

Yet again Jow Forums defends having less options.

>its another mactoddler subhuman cant figure out how to connect a simple cable and claims "omg pc sux D:

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>Thinks it's that easy

You can't use an 8k monitor on macshit because it requires 2x DP and macshit has no ports. Defend this mactoddler.

Thunderbolt 3 can send 8 channels of display port 1.2 on a single cable.

>can
But can't because macshit has no ports. You have defended this mactoddler.

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human eye can't see more than 768p

So what your saying is, 5k is basically dead?

im sorry bro but what is your argument here?

Pretty much, unless you stick to Apple

>5k monitors
buy one now so your 3d tv won't feel lonely

The problem is that you don't need a 5K monitor

Nobody needs more than 1366x768

iiyama.com/gl_en/products/prolite-xb2779qqs-s1/

It's all In your eyes. If you have the will power to see 5k , you can see 5k on a 1080p monitor. That is why apple people see higher resolutions, they have higher IQs than
Windows people

>From what I read they don't support 2x DP 1.4 outputs over a single output.
Looks like it's possible but requires an odd setup and overall isn't really needed yet for anything besides that 5k ultrafine.

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5k monitors fucking destroy laptops, macs included. It will bump your idle power usage from 5w to 30-50w, so you better bring that charger. And dont even think about playing a 3d game at that resolution, the mac is just barely chugging browsing the web at 5k

>The Iiyama ProLite XB2779QQS monitor relies on a 27-inch 6-bit + A-FRC IPS panel

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>5k monitors were so unappealing that the only one that isn't discontinued is one endorsed by Apple with poor build quality and poor features

The cheapest I can find the LG 27MD5KA new is at $1299. If I absolutely had to have a 5k monitor, I'd just get the higher quality Dell UP2715K for $1299, open box; which appears to be better all around.

ebay.com/i/152971768899

I could also go cheaper and get a used HP Z27q:
bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1142990/

Can't see why I'd get one over a 4k or 8k monitor though.

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iMac begin 8bit + Dithering
Both unusable for color grading.

8 bit with dithering is fine for everyday use. 6 bit with dithering is inexcusable on a $900 monitor.

> Be prepared for it not to work. The 5K monitors need multi stream transport support. Only ATI cards support this reliably. The most stable version of these would be the FirePro W7000, W9000, or the HD 7970 in conjunction with Lilu and WhateverGreen. On top of that, you must edit the AppleDeviceGraphicsPolicy.kext Info.plist (see tonymacx86 for details). Finally, not all 5K monitors work ... I initially purchased an HP Z27q and that was much less compatible than the Dell's. I do not trust any 5K monitor except the Dell's for use with a Mac.

I just want a good computer with a fucking 5k display.

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>ATI
>HD7970
How outdated is that paragraph?

it's great if you're editing 4k video, that extra width helps

That's why you go with the Dell monitor instead.

When choosing the path of 5k, you must come to terms with the fact that it has enough issues to nearly kill its market viability.

Even the LG monitor that Apple endorses has around 39% 1 star reviews on LG's own website; with most of the complaints about screen flickering or intermittent disconnects from MBPs.

5k is just a bad meme at this point.

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>Macs are PCs in every possible definition of PC
How will MACfags deal with this?

That doesn't mean it'll be any easier to get working on a hackintosh.

If I was going to spend that much money I'd rather save a bit more and get the 8k display, though knowing my luck that wouldn't work with a hackintosh either.

Macs have nonstandard hardware sometimes. See: Thunderbolt which is required for the current 5k displays on the market.

I have the UP2715k which is pretty much one of the only 5k ips monitors that works on pc with standard displayport connectors and none of that apple mac thunderbolt shite.

>Macs have nonstandard hardware sometimes
It's not really nonstandard, it's just a standard that fell flat. TB3 is gaining steam, however, which is interesting.

isn't the main reason 5k is buggy is that Apple uses a shitty Thunderbolt hack to force 5k output? Once more DisplayPort 1.4 interfaces come out 5k will be viable.

>Herman Miller Flo
dang, so only 400$? not bad. they look great

quad hd on a 12" works really well for me but i'm close to the screen a lot

>external display that simultaneously charges your laptop while you use it all over one cable
>this STILL cannot be accomplished with any windows device.
hmm...

Because it's a useless feature

Are you saying you have to unplug your laptop's charger to plug your laptop into the display?

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They are the only monitor arms I’ve tried that I don’t hate. If you are using really large monitors get the single units and stagger them more out on the desk.

Where they really shine is moving them around.

/thread

I actually let our accountant use one of the UltraFine monitors with her HP ENVY for a bit and it worked fine. Still a crappy laptop tho.

>useless feature

How is a single cable that transfers both audio and video, offer charging, and IO expansion useless?

Who the fucks needs it? It might be nice to have but it's not an essential feature. It's Macfag shit.

Depends on viewing distance and angle. Research bore out that for a 5 inch phone screen most people cannot see pixels from 400-450ppi.
But there are other advantages for higher ppi.

It literally is not. You could leave the charger in your bag and use the monitor as a charging station. Quite handy.

No. You could leave it plugged in if you want, the MacBook will just choose whichever one is supplying more power and use that one for charging.

>Still a crappy laptop tho.
A Chromebook is a crappy laptop.
A MacBook is a good laptop you don't like. It's fine to say you don't like things, user.

You're telling me if you had the choice you'd much rather take up two separate ports when you could do the same thing and free up a port?

How can it be nice to have if it’s useless?

There’s literally no reason to not use it. I’m a professional user with laptop, and having the increased docking capabilities has been a godsend.

Combine this with the promise of eGPU and increased performance of components, and the future is hnghhhh.

>Mactoddlers believe anyone cares about their stupid monitor gimmick
Okay, enjoy being limited to one monitor LMAO

You misunderstood post, HP ENVY is crappy.

I use a MacBook Pro with touchbar, and have 15 others deployed at my business.

>I would literally rather plug in audio, video, any I/O converters and the charger all separately because it makes me look cool
fucking winfags

Dumbass, look at

You can plug in up to 4.

Ah, I see.

As a macfag, I wish daisy chaining monitors would get worked out better.