Should toss bitreich and/or the gopher protocol in there somewhere
Wyatt Edwards
DE is never minimal my man. Never. Learn the difference between DE and WM pls. LXDE is minimal, but not minimal enough. That shit is bloatware. Not good
Christian Brooks
Openbox on the shitty default theme for life.
Tint2 if I'm feeling frisky.
James James
I just want to fuck her so badly. tfw no slavic gf
Andrew Mitchell
bamp
James Rogers
LXDE = Openbox WM + some Bloat.
LXDE desktop environment is built around Openbox.
Michael Phillips
wait, so there's TWO "minimalism" threads going on simultaneously now? BLOAT.
firefox really doesn't belong anywhere near the word 'minimal'. Should switch it to seamonkey at least.
Anthony Rodriguez
bchs is a meme, openbsd is bloat
Luke Edwards
>unironically using nano wow, weak
Jose Fisher
that sounds like something a teenager could write in a weekend. why are you dumber than a teenager? what's wrong with you, brainlet?
Noah Powell
>openbsd is bloat it's literally one of the leanest OSes on that list. If that's considered bloat, then everything besides LFS and alpine is also bloat.
Levi Phillips
9front is pretty comfy desu
Brandon Howard
is vi minimal?
Nolan Edwards
>minimal text editors >vim kys idiot. Have you ever heard about zile, ne, e3 or jed? enjoy your "lightweight" editor. 29.1 MB just for VIM's runtime.
Kevin Flores
>he doesn't know he can deactivate just about any vim feature at build time and produce a much much smaller binary
Lucas Wright
>use a lightweight text editor vs >build a vim binary with disabled features just because I like vim and I want vim in that list. sounds like a waste of time. all the true lightweight text editors that I posted above have a size of 100kB to 350kB. How much your "lightweight" Vim has?
I swear, Vim users are stupider than iPhone users.
Jaxson Scott
>use a venerable de facto standard text editor that is heavily customizable and has just about every imaginable feature available vs >some random underpowered hipster editor
Do you also use Minix instead of Linux?
Brandon Collins
define >powerful/heavily customizable text editor what's powerful in text editing, searching, replacing text?
>Do you also use Minix instead of Linux? do you use 30MB of lightweight text bloat powerful customizable Vim? I've seen fully functioning distros at that size. Don't try to avoid the question and find cheap excuses to place bloatware on the list. I asked a simple question, how much bloat is removed from the >he doesn't know he can deactivate just about any vim feature at build time and produce a much much smaller binary and last but not least >use a venerable de facto standard text editor that is heavily customizable and has just about every imaginable feature available you just described emacs, but let's stay to the "lightweight" Vim with the 30MB runtime binary.
Ian Morris
>do you use 30MB of lightweight text bloat powerful customizable Vim? Size can be reduced to a tiny fraction of that, I already told you.
>you just described emacs Emacs is much slower no matter what you do.
Caleb Ross
>all the true lightweight text editors that I posted above have a size of 100kB to 350kB Jed with runtime files is multiple MBs
Evan Foster
>I already told you. no you didn't tell me. you just told the "much much much" generalization. How much is the reduction since you seem like someone who knows what he's talking about.
>Emacs is much slower no matter what you do. stop steering the conversation away from the main topic. You barely know what vim is or does, you just assume some bad thing for something you don't even know how it works.
>multiple MBs 1.8MB for the runtime, 335KB for the core. nano, for comparison, is 2.2MB.
I like having fun with Vimdiots.
Ethan Walker
The whole 30MB runtime you're going on about is completely optional for example.
Angel Roberts
you are repeating the same generalizations as before. How much is Vim without the "opitonals" vim + vim commons are 3.0MB. vim runtime is 30MB. What kind of functionality is removed if you omit those 30MB? is it still Vim or it's just a nano with an additional 1MB? you are shilling a piece of s/w and you don't even know how to defend it. No wonder vim is advertised as a tool for niggers.
I don't know I've never tried to build it with as few as possible features. Common small builds of VIM acting as classic vi are around 600kb to 1mb total installed size.
Jace Martin
Don't blame me, I use nvi.
Tyler James
Have you ever thought you can suggest someone use different software without being so afraid they won't take you seriously that you have to post like a jerk right off the bat to get attention? You should try it some time.
Jackson Miller
luakit the sane minimal browser
Mason Sanchez
>fuck ton of logic implemented in the configuration >sane
Cooper White
the biggest question is why do YOU want to go minimal? if LXDE works for your, go on with your life and be productive. Do not fall for the minimalism meme
Oliver Lewis
Why is systemd fucking bad? Also is it true googledns is hardcoded into systemd? Proofs?
Mason Wood
>Why is systemd fucking bad? Because it's not software designed to give you something you need. It's software designed to give Redhat's customers something they need and simultaneously dig a hole into the GNU/Linux ecosystem to plant deeper seeds of dependence on them. Thereby ensuring that they will get contributions from the open source community effectively doing their job for them as they market redhat+systemd to corporate customers at our expense. >Also is it true googledns is hardcoded into systemd? Proofs? No idea. It is open source after all, so you'd think the answer would be no for sneaky stuff like that being hardcoded in. But at the same time I think they absolutely do have the motives to justify stuff like that, and systemd has been described as too complex for most to understand, so you never know if they can still find a clever way to hide it.
The most sane one that doesn't rely on drag n drop is likely the LXQt one. It's basically pcmanfm as a file picker.
Aiden Baker
I only need a file picker tho, not a full futured file manager.
I'll check it out.
Xavier Roberts
I uninstalled lxde and now debian cant find ftp.us.debian org. How do I connect to interwebs to get a wm?
Jacob Thompson
I never understood how this works. How a DE, or whatever, can change your filepicker. Isn't it still GTK? And firefox still is hardcoded to use only the GTK filepicker? I know installing KDE for example also changes it. But how? Do they just come with their own custom GTK patches/hacks to change the GTK filepicker?
Mason Allen
At least the KDE file picker can just be run as an external command, e.g.: kdialog --getopenfilename "`pwd`" "*.jpg *.png"
Hunter Bennett
Been running 4 Vultr instances with Alpine Linux in it. I've set a Wireguard VPN so I can use typical home network services from them like Asterisk SIP and 2 unbound cache resolvers. I'm also running Alpine on my APU2C2 Linux router (previously FreeBSD).
Alpine is amazing and Wireguard is a very fast VPN system that leaves OpenVPN and IpSec in the dust in terms of easy to use, speed and throughput. Its crypto implementation is academically verified.
Social justice and lack of improvements was one of the things that made me start ditching FreeBSD. Working on replacing my FreeBSD home server with Alpine too.
Ryan Morris
So then why can't I install kdialog on any other DE and tell firefox to use it? Aside from mozilla being jerks and refusing to make the change?
Samuel Cook
When is zile getting that “lightweight vi clone” option?
Jaxon Diaz
No. Copying and pasting file path (into filepicker) should be possible though.
Alpine seems like an excellent server distro, especially with the added security of Musl libc + unofficial grsec-patched kernel.
Jaxon Powell
Firefox doesn't support KDE at all, you have to patch it to get it to use the file picker.
Only chromium uses the KDE file picker when it detects a KDE desktop.
Ian Adams
no
Noah Baker
nice to seee alpine is actually useful
Landon Morales
nyasharisha on instagram She's an 18 year old russian twitch streamer i think?
Isaiah Murphy
How do you get sxiv in album mode like that? All i do is cd and sxiv something.jpg
Ryder Myers
Enter
Elijah Brown
bumping this.
From the project page: >More editors implemented over the Zile frameworks are forthcoming as the data-structures and interfaces improve: Zz an emacs inspired editor using Lua as an extension language; Zee a minimalist non-modal editor; Zi a lightweight vi clone; and more... gnu.org/software/zile/
Here the minimal memory i can get in Windows without breaking the comfort. I'm doing nothing in pic related. When I browse Jow Forums using chromium it's around 350MB.
