Tfw massively growing cognitive demand to be useful irl

Found the trench coat waring kid in calculus who tells everyone he doesn't study and only gets a C.
No college isn't the best for you if your IQ is 70, but if your IQ is above 105 there's really no reason to complain.

>>implying the trades aren't the jobs to go for now
I lack even the non verbal/spatial intelligence and serum testosterone to be good at any sort of tradie job

imagine that freaky looking dude from lotr (forgot the name) but 90iq

>hardwork beats talent
100% wrong
I work harder than anyone else . I go to every office hour. I put in 12 hours for a single class. I have genuine enjoyment and interest in math.
Still do worse than people who don't give a shit. Have to retake nearly every exam. Barely pass or even fail the retakes. My professor just looks at me with sadness in his eyes

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>nomenclature
You're already smarter than most of the people here

its retarded larp m8 im a broke neet with no prospects yet my mum thinks im gonna be a ceo because i type fast

>Jow Forums help I was able to coast by in high school by not being retarded and pretending that putting together computer legos was somehow representative of intelligence.
>I'm too lazy to try hard in school and want to continue coasting in life, but I'm also too much of a fuckup to know where to even begin, is there any hope for me.

Unless you get a tugboat you should probably kys yourself.

>he thinks academia is representative in any way of real life

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this t b h

>be me
>incredible attention span
>can sit down for hours and complete the tasks in front of me in an efficient matter, without the ""aid"" of stimulatory drugs (a.k.a. poison)
>god-tier hand-eye coordination giving me stable 100 wpm

>be OP
>can't sit down for more than 20 minutes
>has to down his coffee (shit-colored bitter water) to marginally increase his shit productivity.
>shit genetics gave him host of mentally-retarding attributes. (ADHD, gender dysphoria, social anxiety, insecurity, and many more)

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I doubt it's only because you type fast. If she's your biological mom, then that means she's seen you every single year of your life. I'd say she knows something about your potential that you don't - consciously or subconsciously.

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tfw ur the latter half

>be me

>severe epilepsy/adhd

>can't code for shit, math is difficult as shit

>I understand computers like a mechanic understands cars

>it doesn't take a retard to know to make a website advertising you can do that and basic software shit for people

>print some free business cards from vistaprint

>craigslist ads

>flyers

there will be floods of people calling asking for the most basic computer advice and you can charge $20 an hour minimum with a required $50 base charge for house calls.

the majority of the time I spend less than a half hour fixing someones shit and as long as you're polite you can walk away in a day after working with 9-12 clients.

>it doesn't take a retard

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You never learned how to study.
Don't worry, it happens to everyone who is remotely smart in grade/high school. For me I hit my "cap" back in 9th grade. I had 10 years to learn to study yet never studied once. Id look down at my classmates like they were retarded until 9th grade hit and I had no idea what to do.
Just try to study and look up good methods online, studying is a severely underrated skill for those who haven't needed it before.

Have you ever read Lockhart's Lament OP? If not, please give it a read. It's quite likely that it's not your fault that you don't understand high school math: the way math is taught in most high schools is fucking retarded. Plus a lot of schools are significantly underfunded, so the odds are high that you had a crappy teacher who did a piss poor job of explaining things, and made concepts seem more complicated than they actually are.

I honestly think I became good at math and programming BECAUSE I was a bad student in high school. In math class when a teacher would put a problem on the board, I would zone out and fuck around with trying to solve the problem (and if I payed attention I would have just been handed the answer, giving me zero practice in real problem solving skills). I actually had a teacher tell my class once "Don't try to think: when you think, that's when you mess up. Just memorize and follow the rules, and you'll be fine".

this. that user is full of shit

>he thinks nomenclature is a big boy word
OP said he went to highschool

I'll read it asap

The point of attending a school is to prepare you to obey your future bosses. It has fuck all to do with education. The only way to truly learn stuff is to study it yourself.

>be that one smartass in elementary school who already knows reading/writing/'rithmatic
>hit 6th grade
>struggle like mad from that point on
>barely scrape through algebra, somehow do well on SSATs and get into a good private highschool
>nearly fail out in my senior year
>don't get into any of the colleges I wanted
>get a job
>work a dead-end IT job for three years
>start waking up having panic attacks, feel like I'm suffocating
>talk to a doctor
>recommends me to a sleep specialist
>go in for a study
>turns out I have a severe form of central sleep apnea (which is kinda like obstructive sleep apnea (the kind fatties get) but it's based around your brain regulating your blood oxygen levels way below normal)
>get a machine
>start using it religiously
>a few months later I feel like a million bucks
>decide to go back to school
>start at a community college
>test into precalc even though I passed it in highschool
>ace every single class using the nosegrinding skills I learned at my shitty job
>get a scholarship to one of the best CS schools in the country (that rejected me fresh out of highschool)
and I'll be starting there this Fall as a junior
never give up hope, user
there's always a way

wow this must have felt incredible, good for you, happy for you

Academia is the only place worth being anyway my dude

this and
this so much

Fuck off. I wish I was naturally good at math and studying like you. I wasn't born with the potential. I wasn't born with any talent

Are you this user: ? That's an interesting post: enjoying math, but not being good at it. It wasn't just test anxiety or something, but you genuinely had a hard time grasping concepts, even though you found the material interesting? Would you say you had good professors who explained things clearly, or were there multiple students who were confused by their explanations? Of the concepts you studied, which would you say were the hardest for you, and were there any that came more naturally or that "clicked" relatively quickly?

Sorry for the barrage of questions, but I haven't bumped into someone like you in a while: pretty much everyone who says they're "bad at math" also says how much they hate it

So how do i go learning about math? any tips?

quite the opposite desu

this retard has a job and OP is still jobless and wallowing in self-pity

Not him.
I was hideous at math until
khanacademy.org
Do the world of math program.
I started at pre-K math, that's right, two mice plus three mice equals, guess what? Five mice. Took me a few months to get back to college algebra level.
That's what I did about 2 and a 1/2 years ago, passed calc last year, now I'm in
numerical analysis and my math is better than a lot of my colleagues.
If you're not willing to do that, sorry but fuck off and pick another trade.

I'm perfectly willing to do anything

At this point in my life i've had to relearn math three times already always forgetting most of it after it wasn't needed, just read the Lockhart Lament article the other guy recommended and it finally dawned upon me why i considered math to be the most boring thing i had to deal with ever, i really want to do some side projects that would rely heavily upon math which i already forgot altogether and if the guy found out a path to truly rediscover math as a concept i would like to hear his experience in more detail

If I knew I was going to get amnesia in a few months and forget everything I know about math, and had to lay a roadmap for myself to relearn it... I guess the first bit of advice I'd give myself would be to read Lockhart's Lament, and tell myself to internalize his attitude towards mathematics while trying to ignore the attitude/approach to it that most other people seem to have. I'd maybe give myself a list of math problems, with instructions that I should try to solve them on my own, in order to build that "muscle" of creativity required to find solutions to problems, and not look at a prewritten solution until I get stuck, after spending a significant amount of time on a problem and being at the point where it's no longer fun and I feel totally lost. And maybe I'd include some sort of diatribe against what's wrong with current math education, about how ass-backwards it is to try to learn mathematics by rote, in a way similar to how we program computers (though Lockhart's Lament already does a good job of this)

I'd also tell myself that any time I forget something, try to refigure it out, rather than going to notes or googling it. For example, if I forget that thing about how log3(81) equals 2*log3(9) (is that true? Am I remembering that right? How did that go?), I'll start fucking around with different equations and examples until I've "proven" to myself that what I've remembered is right or wrong.

BTW, if you happen to have any interest in game programming, that can be a GREAT motivator. At least it was for me. When taking physics 101 in college, I was starting to code and make games around the same time, and taking what I learned in class and using it to make games, that shit was really fun.

Hope that's at least a little helpful, it's a hard question to answer. If you'd like you can ask more questions and I'll try to help

I'm the lockhart dude (just posted this: ) and I like what this guy suggested., going on Khan academy, messing around with the problems. Not beating yourself up if you get things wrong, or if it takes you a loooong time to get something that seems simple, or if you try and try, and have to give up and look at an answer (even the act of trying to find a solution on your own is good practice at problem solving skills, plus it'll probably make it easier to understand a prewritten solution after having tried to solve the problem on your own).

(Again, this is all my opinion, and opinions are like assholes; everyone's got one. The best advice is probably to try multiple things, and go with what feels like it's the best for you)

>did all of you go out of your way to learn or did you just pick everything up naturally?
Picked it up naturally.
>I just can't retain or grasp anything
Well that's a little bad, but it might just be some psychological fear or distaste for certain subjects that-
>it really blows my mind anyone can "code"
Okay never mind you're just retarded

Academia is for fucking pussies to afraid to get real jobs.

Academia is the only place cool shit happens

The professors are good and I do eventually grasp stuff but on a basic level and it's slow.
I really struggle with it
I work so hard user , I'm just so exhausted now and I look back on my undergraduate career
I have the resume of someone who literally did not give a shit. It's so heartbreaking

I can empathize with this user. I would say I put in a fair amount of effort more than my peers in college but still got average grades. After graduation I felt like an impostor interviewing for webdev jobs because I could talk the talk but my understanding was missing at the core. After a while I fluked out and landed a position which I worked at for 2 years before being fired for someone with more potential. That feeling of being the guy that worked overtime to get shit done and then the company just replacing you for their best interest... Now it's 8 months later of living on EI and figuring out next steps. Feelsbad not being smart

Damn that sucks, sorry to hear it. On the bright side, there are plenty of employed people who learned how to bullshit their way through school, and have crappy work ethics; your strong work ethic should be a massive boon once your in the job market, and having a thorough grasp of things is way more important in academics than it is in day-to-day job performance so once you're through school you'll hopefully have an easier time.

go back to shitposting on

I am brainlett too OP, tried to get into programming but became a welder instead.

> all I can do is buy pc parts put them together like lego

Is reddit blsht from a mile away. You wasted entire speeches on how great you are to bot nets that hate 4 chin.

Ignorance is bliss.
Except not. IQ has a negative correlation with depression. But more relevant to this people in a lower economic class report themselves as less happy.

I suspect inner peace in the form of acceptance of who you are and where you are in life while striving for something is the key to prolonged happiness. So op should accept that she's not the best and she should just aim to be better.

Read books, do exercises.

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what's the appeal in being a 'jack of all trades'?
I mean I can understand the math, statistics and programming but not sure where you'd use biology and astrophysics.
>tfw you'll never be a developer working on astrophysics related projects
why live

Not that guy, but I took calculus as a freshman in high school, not because I wanted to but because my father was a huge dick with a weird fixation on "getting ahead in math". Shit was easy for me (I got an A+ and 5's on both the AB and BC tests, not C's), and I never really studied, but only years later did I realize that a lot of people thought I was just bullshitting to show off. Even had a girl I was very familiar with from sports write something in my yearbook about how she used to think I was lying about not studying, with some bitter remark along the lines of "good luck with that". Have you seen Good Will Hunting? Some people just remember whatever they find interesting and have strong abilities for general abstraction that others lack. And yes, plenty of other people bullshit about how little work they put in because they're really insecure, but it really shouldn't be contentious that some people learn blazingly fast compared to the average person or even average engineering student. Ask ANY professor who teaches a "difficult" technical field, and they'll tell you about the students that just got everything, did well on the tests, and never showed up to ask questions during office hours. Maybe you'd rather have what we have, but consider this: all of academia is geared towards the average students. While everyone else is struggling to stay afloat despite the curriculum being increasingly geared towards memorization and away from interesting abstraction, we're getting bored and disillusioned, feeling ignored, left out, and understimulated. Being too far to the end of any curve means being comparatively alone, and that's only fun if you're a pompous asshole. Plus, trying to learn from material geared towards slow learners is like painful torture, and that's what most of education is for us.

> tfw

I relate to this so much I had to fucking save it.

Holy shit user are you me ?

Medfag here, can confirm. There are people here who can literally memorize a 20 page assignment the previous day and fully tell the assignment by heart without looking at the fucking notes or at the textbook. If you can't do this then your a brainlet.