Are they right?

You know what those browsers won't do? Install Mr. Robot-related shit without my permission.

Not even close, Waterfox has literally NEVER been based on ESR
Those soybois at HTG can't even read an about page

this has always been the case, which is why i get a laugh out of people recommending shitty forks for muh privacy. enjoy your non-existent security dumbfags. if you're disabling everything by default, then why even use a fucking browser. stick to some text terminal shit.

This
I wish someone would repackage Fx Stable for Windows so my normie Windows using acquaintances can have a decently supported browser without having full blown spyware like Chrome or the random shit Mozilla packages regionally
No, ESR isn't an option, normie shit like WhatsApp/Facebook and a lot of (((modern))) frameworks only test on the latest Fx Stable, I know package maintainers on every distro out there don't come up with this bullshit but GNU/Linux isn't an option for most of my acquaintances

Of course.

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Lynx: Stable release 4 years ago. Simple. Secure.

Firefox: Constant updates. Bloated (but not with the features you want). Must always use latest version, or scary things will happen.

So use Basilisk? Got it.
Not a fan of that dev since they're a touchy baby but its a better alternative.

>Are they right?
No. I think they are actually paid shills for various products because adblockers ruined their model.
>the Waterfox developers have to integrate those updates into Waterfox before delivering them to users.
FUD. While updates have been slower of late, how many issues are so critical that the smart user running uMatrix can't protect against?
>Pale Moon is based on much older code
More FUD. It's basically implying that it's old so it's bad and insecure. It's a proper fork so whatever the Mozfags do is increasingly irrelevent to the browser.
>which is a fork of Mozilla’s code without the new Servo and Rust code that makes Firefox Quantum so fast
Max FUD
>it might be a little slower because it's not bleeding edge!

There's plenty of valid criticism of these (and all) browsers but they haven't offered any.

>waterfox's main reason of existence isn't a factor anymore due to firefox adopting 64.
How many times do you need to be told that's bullshit, shill?

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You can make these changes manually if you aren't fucking stupid.

The new website is ass.

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>and then labeling a addon as "malware" because they didn't believe in it politically despite evidence.
it fits the definition of malware, but it doesn't fit the definition of a trojan

>OY GEVALT, DON'T USE THESE FORKS OF OUR EXTENSION. WE DON'T HAVE TOTAL CONTROL OF THEM

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>More FUD. It's basically implying that it's old so it's bad and insecure. It's a proper fork so whatever the Mozfags do is increasingly irrelevent to the browser.

maybe not insecure but it is very bad. t. some faggot at my work complained some 100 loc js didn't work in his faggy special snowflake palememe garbage.

I shouldn't need to use babel or some massive polyfill lib to satisfy retards refusing to use modern browsers.

fuck you and fuck pale meme faggots.

Nice straw man.

>fuck you and fuck pale meme faggots.
I don't use Stale Meme because I got sick of their autism.

Anyone who uses pale moon and shit like that is a cuck

>literally shilling waterfox with a screencap of their features page
no wonder you're so defensive

good. you should also not want to use it because it's literally garbage. doesn't even have ES2015 in 2018.

>defensive
I'm not defensive, I'm allergic to bullshit.

>complaining about Mozilla's BS
>not realizing users can change the settings themselves

I also suspect that is a paid shill.

>not realizing you also have the freedom to fork or use a fork of an open source project
Firefox configs are great and all, until the devs decide you shouldn't mess with some options
Whats so bad in having other projects that you agree more with supported instead?

Nothing is necessarily wrong with forks of software, but if all of the features and unique traits of the aforementioned fork are all available without it, then why bother using it? Especially when typically they are behind in security.

Literally because I prefer the devs
I mean you can make xubuntu with a default Ubuntu install
Hell, you can make Ubuntu out of a Debian install
Does that mean that you wouldn't wantto support xfce/kde devs for being better than the GNOME fucks?
Sure I can do whatever I want with Firefox, and I also see that Firefox is growing stale in innovation, if not completely.
It might be up to a fork maintainer to make the next big thing

ACCEPT THE DRM FEATURE GOY

> if all of the features and unique traits of the aforementioned fork are all available without it, then why bother using it?

if there's a reason to distrust a certain site (mozilla) you should compile the software yourself.

A more practical way is to trust another entity to compile it for you (waterfox), that way you know you're getting whatever software is on the sourcecode and not "surprise features"

waterfox is a big meme since you can literally make all the changes yourself

>nor does it support watching certain kinds of video with DRM
That's a feature.

>disable JavaScript
Unplugging your Ethernet cable makes internet explorer 8 safe to use.

>Pale Moon is based on much older code
>routinely gets security patches for stuff even before Mozilla tackles it
>got patch for the Spectre/Meltdown meme nearly a year before

also

>waterfox developers
>developers
>when there is only one actual dev

This article is literally Firefox propaganda.

>OpenBSD dev (ibara) offer Pale Moon with their system-libs, which means that Pale Moon devs could be bothered with complaints that have nothing with them, and all with the improper use of the software by OpenBSD
>this is in violation of the usage terms
>an ex-official Pale Moon dev (tobin) who still actively contributes points this put
>ibara essentially tell him to fuck off, since he only cares if owner (Moonchild) complains
>Moonchild tells him to either use Pale Moon's lib or to drop official branding and offer their own "fork" with their own logo+name
>ibara complains and goes "W-well, its not like we wanted Pale Moon anyways"
>OpenBSD fans proceed to act like bullying victims who just had their sacred space violated

Few websites need javascript to function. I have 12 exceptions in my umatrix rules, and Jow Forums is the only one that I suspect may be a security risk.

Why don’t we have a Jow Forums-made desktop client yet?

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I'll make the logo

you'll need to be fine with the default yotsuba themes or make your own custom css with any of the various Jow Forums extensions, but this one works for me. not shown is the sys.Jow Forums one, it'll prevent you from posting if it's not enabled as well
and i recall reading earlier that one of the ad partners here has bitcoin mining going on

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>why you should X
Why do journalists do this?
there's one but it only works on Jow Forums and it's less convenient than 4chanx
github.com/siavash119/qtchan

Unironically yes.
Was easy enough to compile on OS X but then I saw pic related in my system bar.

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>4chanx
literally a botnet

>What happens when basilisk loses parity?
they'll fork a newer version of ff and i'll move to that.

Pale moon's dev is a furry and therefore cannot be trusted.

Right, good goy, use SJWfox, not the free counterpart, without botnet, without Antifa far left terrorists funding, without marxist ideology, without telemetry, without data mining, without profiling.

It's for your security.

>hurr durr, spend half an hour configuring the browser you just installed to disable all botnet features (except those you cannot, like automatic addon installing, or startup profiling, yknow) on every device you own instead of installing the already configured browser that will not fuck your privacy and your rights up

You're not a very bright man.

>[citation needed]

He censors addons he doesn't like.
PaleMoon - Your Brower, Our Way

I forgot.
We mustn't forget!

>Firefox differs from Waterfox in a number of ways by:

> Enable Encrypted Media Extensions (EME)
> Enable Web Runtime
> Adding Adobe DRM
> Adding Pocket
> Adding Telemetry
> Adding data collection
> Adding startup profiling
> Prevent running of all 64-bit NPAPI plugins
> Prevent running of unsigned extensions
> Adding of Sponsored Tiles on New Tab Page
> Removing of Duplicate Tab option
> Removing of locale selector in about:preferences > General
> Defaulting to Google or Yahoo as the search engine instead of Ecosia

>nor does it support watching certain kinds of video with DRM.

As much as I dislike those BUT BUT BUT I KNOW IT BETTER autism forks, this argument is fucking disgusting and pathetic.

>how to geek
:(
You.

>> Removing of Duplicate Tab option
nah it's there

>Are they right?
They sure are! Still not a single MHT plugin for Quantum because of webext limitations.

You can post on Jow Forums without JS if you have a pass, or simply run your own JS aka 4chanX

I think I'm missing something here. Aren't SJW fags pro privacy, and against the government spying on us?

huntard is that you?

adnauseam

qtchan is kinda shit it saves every image thumbnail in the catalog and the threads you open in your home directory captcha is shit too but i still use it to lurk

security updates for the browser lol
just block javascript nigga

>ACCEPT THE DRM FEATURE GOY
(((DRM))) is Kikery, but Basilisk supports it.

> It won’t have the new web features or performance improvements of modern versions of Firefox

Basilisk supports both the new WebExtensions and the old XUL/XPCOM extensions and NPAPI plugins.

>without the new Servo and Rust code that makes Firefox Quantum so fast.
Servo and Rust are cancer.

Are you trolling or just retarded? Firefox works with Google they are part of their botnet

don't believe me? type google in about:config

>Aren't SJW fags pro privacy, and against the government spying on us?
Only when it's used against them.

Are there any Firefox forks with native support for the KDE/QT filepicker? I tried firefox-opensuse-kde in the AUR but the maintainer seems incompetent, it takes hours to download and compile, with a high likelyhood of compile errors. I don't want to spend hours every week troubleshooting a shitty modded Firefox so I'd rather just use a binary if one's available.

They’re right. The forks are useless because you can accomplish most of the ”””features””” by using a user.js file. And firefox does get security updates before anyone else since they’re upstream. It’s like using debian vs the 1000 shitty forks floating around. All they do is change the default behavior, so there’s no reason for them to exist.

Just use the KDE browser, Falkon or whatever.

Firefox is cancer anyway.

>howtogeek

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>an ex-official Pale Moon dev (tobin) who still actively contributes points this put
He didn't "point it out". He demanded, literally opening a ticket saying "You /will/ implement this change", and then threatened them to involve lawyers if they didn't comply immediately. OpenBSD maintainer said fuck that, i'm not having any of that shit, and removed the package.
Had that idiot actually "pointed it out" and asked the project to comply with their terms, his request would have been accepted.

And speaking of propaganda, your own post reads like propaganda for that furry's fork.

>routinely gets security patches for stuff even before Mozilla tackles it
bullshit

>Disable JS
>Every other website you open is just blank because html code is meant to be assembled on the client side using 500k of JS.
It's just not feasible unless you only browse FOSS websites that still look like they were made for Netscape 4.

Oh yes... except when they are pro doxing, pro big daddy government, pro 'if you do nothing bad you have nothing to fear'....

> pro big daddy government
Sexist pig.

>People unironically using and defending amateur forks of old codebases maintained by autists and furries
I expected more of Jow Forums

okay, what browser do you use?

So yer tellin' me that IceCat is the best?

> It won’t have the new web features or performance improvements of modern versions of Firefox, nor does it support watching certain kinds of video with DRM.
Good.

Pale moon is pretty good so far.
It just has issues with some videos.

But at least I can still use Downthemall!

>people are bitching about default settings in firefox
>they're either mad because it takes them a couple minutes or they're too dumb to use a computer

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i'm using waterfox and it's doing fine for me so far, at least there's this small sense of satisfaction knowing i'm poking mozilla in the eye while still enjoying the closest thing to firefox before it sucked ass

is FF quantum any good? i haven't bothered reading about it

>FF quantum
Man, stop calling it that, its not a new browser thats just a marketing name. Its just FF57+
Waterfox more or less has all the features that sped up the 57+ versions without the drawbacks of the legacy extensions API being disabled. Download a portable version of FF, likely you wont be able to tell the difference in speed.

Pale Moon is the comfiest browser

enjoy your constant feature removal

It's not a new browser, but it indicates the new components like servo and stylo etc

wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum

Also, bullshit about waterfox being as fast as firefox.

He also threatens legal action over a port, 3 hours after the first commit.

>firefox is super duper fastest in the world
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
this is fine according to you
>waterfox is just as fast as firefox
this is a problem to you

hmmm no wonder you get called a shill so frequently

WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT FUCKING BROWSER YOU USE TO FAP TO YOUR JAPANESE CARTOON PORN YOU FUCKING AUTISMAL FUCKS

...

You are actually retarded or a shill yourself if you dont notice an increase in response time since quantum.