Which company will still be around in 25 years
Which company will still be around in 25 years
i.e. FAAAM
Or if we remove Microsoft, FAAG
Yandex
obviously Microsoft since they have the most versatile portfolio.
In the same spot that IBM nowadaya
AWS only makes 10%? Damn, I though it'd be higher than that.
Apple would be alive 25 years from now on even if they literally stopped producing software and hardware right now.
facebook will be gone
All of the above?
They'll be around, just not as a social network.
I've been saying this for years before this Cambridge analytica scandal: Facebook is clearly the most vulnerable. First because they make all their money from ads but also because social networks and messaging services are inherently fickle.
Myspace and friendster used to be things but they got replaced by Facebook. Most likely another social platform will take it's place at some point. And before you say that Myspace wasn't as big, this isn't something Facebook has to be credited for as the whole internet got bigger and more accessible. The next social media platform will be even bigger.
So IMO Facebook has a chance of really disappearing as in not existing in 25 years. The other ones might get smaller and become something like IBM. Even if Google loses all ad revenue they are still left with patents and research-focused stuff like deepmind, kaggle and so on.
Apple will be around for a long time since they have loads of cash and could pivot their whole business if need be. They could become a holding company and not make anything at all.
Microsoft has it's hand in many pies and some of them will continue to pay out. As for Amazon, at least AWS will probably be around for a long time though it has serious issues with profits, they act like a fucking start-up.
This of course is if all things stay the same, if I could predict the next best thing I'd be a billionaire.
TL;Dr
The order in which they disappear Facebook>Amazon>Google>Microsoft>Apple. Unless one of them invents general super AI in which case it will be the sole survivor and have a monopoly on technology (and the world). My money is on Google for this one.
MS, Apple and Amazon most likely. Memebook and jewgle depend too much on this cool new thing called the internet and who knows where it's going in the next decades.
Probably Amazon, there's a chance that Microsoft and Google may hang about as well. I don't expect Facebook or Apple to be around much longer.
I don't think any of those companies will be going anywhere in the next decade. 25 years? That's going a tad too far as changing markets and the competency of future management has a bigger impact than current business and management.
If I had to hazard a guess Facebook is the most likely to go as they're almost completely tied to just one service. Not that companies can't last forever sort of like Western Union has, but they've at least got the money transfer part of the business set up well ahead before the demand for telegrams went away.
Not that Apple or Microsoft can't go away as Apple did almost go out of business without Jobs at the helm and I can't see similar mismanagement leading to Microsoft's demise.
As for who's the most likely to be standing in the next quarter of a century I'm going to say it's a tie between Alphabet and Google as they're not only well diversified, they've also tied their very stable business to so many other businesses that they can easily afford partners dying off.
How can Microsoft still be making money off Windows Server if nobody uses that shit anymore?
this is what happens when you spend too much time on Jow Forums
There's still plenty of company internal systems using it and the thing about corporate IT bosses is that they REALLY don't like changing anything unless they're absolutely forced to. They'll make damn sure that what was being run when they were hired is what's being run when they retire or quit and after that it's someone else's problem.
>he order in which they disappear Facebook>Amazon>Google>Microsoft>Apple.
Personally I'd change that to Facebook>Alphabet>Apple>Amazon>=Microsoft.
Alphabet has the same problem as Facebook, it's almost entirely dependent on ads. How long can that gravy train last? Then you have Apple (the last three admittedly are difficult to rank), with their revenue at least generated by actual products, but it is pretty lopsided in favor of iphone, but can that monopoly last? Especially as the rest of the ecosystem somewhat decays. Cook has no vision, unlike Jobs. Then you have Amazon. Amazon has absolutely massive income, almost entirely from actual products, but at the same time reinvets pretty much all of it's income into dominating new markets. They're well set up to crush competition and glide for ages if they have to. Same (sort of) with Microsoft. I'm no fan, but they're reasonably well diversified, and again depend on actual products and services, not the ad bubble. Also they do have interesting new tech, like the hololens, and imo AR has far more applications and ability to really break into the mainstream compared to "VR".
I know it's hard to imagine Alphabet/Google going the way of the dodo as dominating as they currently are, but it's all ephemeral.
they'll be probably bought by some chinese company
All of the ones you pictured.
The thing about advertisement is that companies will always be spending money on it. As long as facebook continues to be the social media juggernaut that it is and continue to provide the precise targeting they are (they can target based on location, race, gender, sexual orientation, income, political leanings, etc.), they're going to be the #2 place to advertise. Google's strength on the other hand is in their massive advertisement network, meaning that trough them you can get your ads to appear on almost any site and ad-funded mobile app that isn't facebook, combined with similarly effective targeting means they're going to be the #1 place to advertise.
In the end Facebook and Google are where they are because they're the ultimate ad companies and there's really nobody that can come even close in terms of reach and ability to target advertisement to the intended audience.
Yeah but I think online advertising, as it currently stands, is a massive bubble.
So many people block ads or just ignore them, impressions and even clicks don't mean shit. It's all just imaginary business with no actual value and eventually the bubble will pop and it will all come crashing down.
The sooner the better, imo.
As a company, you call it Alphabet, not Google, you fag.
Microsoft is diversified enough to survive potential crashes
for example if the ad market crashes Google and Facebook are completely dead
Tencent
Google is still a company you retard. Alphabet isnt google.
that's where you're wrong kiddo
Microsoft is on the way out, people just don't realize it yet.
What? It is THE single most used server operating system out there! Stop being a NEET and find a job and you'll see.
that is just like, your opinion.
I generally agree that ads as we know them today may soon die out, it's just that I think alphabet could survive that and make revenue from other sources.
It will shrink in size massively. With that I agree.
Just wandering. Is that "other" we see at Facebook selling our data? They don't seem to have other sources. No cloud services or stuff like that.
Forgot they bought Oculus. Nevermind. Smart of them to diversify like that but as we can see it's a small piece of the pie.
Also, at alphabet wtf do they mean by separating "other" and "other bets"? The hell? Do they gamble with the company money? If so, also a smart way to diversity. (I am not serious here)
this, because it has the best porn searching capability. porn always wins
Microsoft is going to break up
I don't think current microsoft management is competent enough to hold microsoft's market position, and the separate divisions are virtually their own companies at this point that breaking away with individual microsoft products would be relatively painless, although it would necessitate massive changes since they would no longer have the microsoft umbrella to fall back on.
Really, I think that's the only reason the company hasn't broken apart already.
But with how windows is going, alongside all the diversity hires turning it into a de-facto indian company, I think it's an inevitability now. As incompetence by the management divisions mount, the subdivisions which haven't yet been filled with poo, are going to chafe and yearn for freedom from the dead weight.
Alphabet calls the other portfolio companies "bets"
Honestly user those are nice attempts at understanding Microsoft but ultimately they fall flat. They'll continue shuffling and shutting down what loses money, which is boring and nowhere near as fun as your theory, but welcome to reality.
They've made a lot of purchases that could potentially bring in money but absolutely nowhere near data/ads currently.
They all will. Facebook (the company) might change their name and spin off their social media site and sell it when it loses popularity.
Could you advice metasearch for porn, with categories, fetishes, putin etc?
Same here.
But I think it's growing very fast so might be a lot more today.
I think you two really underestimate how much money they make outside of AWS. AWS makes a lot for sure (that huge 10% chunk is nothing to scoff at) but they make so fucking much through selling pretty much everything under the sun. See also: alibaba for an even bigger example.
have you considered writing a movie? because you have a wild imagination.
You're probably thinking of profits - Amazon doesn't make a lot of money back from the retail side - AWS makes up most of their profits
Yes but they apparently make more from streaming than AWS. That is surprising.
t. I have no idea how a company works - the post.
Not really because investors would pull money out of it
>Media consists of amounts earned from retail sales from all sellers in categories such as books, movies, music, digital downloads, software and video games (including game consoles).
Not all that surprising desu those are huge industries.
Google, Microsoft and Amazon will do fine.
Facebook is doomed once it's users starts to stop using it and/or dying.
With Apple it really depends. Who knows if they can stay innovative, end up like IBM or simply die. My guess is that turn into IBM and become old and boring.
They can all collapse, given the right market conditions.
Facebook might get regulated into the ground, until it's not worth it anymore to advertise on their site. It's one big balloon waiting to pop.
Apple's succes and revenue is too tied to phones and eventually the phone format will be overtaken by some other type of device. Sure they have a lot of money and experience but they just lack the leadership to come up with new groundbreaking products. Everything they came up with during Timmy's tenure flopped, and the phone boom is over.
Google has similar issues as Facebook, any harsh regulation on data protection can screw with their biz model badly. Their other ventures are not nearly bringing as much cash as their ads system. Ads don't have to go through middlemen like Facebook or Google, if ISPs get in the ads businesses, they might cut the middleman. If there was a global marketplace where ad space was traded, Google's global reach would be undermined.
Microsoft has tried different things since they realised they won't be able to cash on windows forever. If they fail to establish a direct connection with consumers through their hardware, they risk becoming the next IBM. So far, they barely left a mark on the hardware market.
Amazon is mostly dependent on the online sales boom. But they're not particularly successful in countries where there already are big local online marketplaces, like eMAG in Romania or Alibaba in China. Their success depends on having a global reach and anything that fucks with that, like increasing duty taxes could make it less profitable to buy from them if the product is not produced locally.
What is the MS surface
5% revenue.
None.
Amazon is shit compared to eBay, hoping it dies soon. Although I hope Microsoft goes first and generally don't give a shit about the other 4. I'd like for Google to have at least some competition though.
>things will die because of ads
Anons, ads have always existed and will always exist. There's no possible way for them to disappear, only change form. Even if they become less profitable Google will just adapt to the situation and find profit elsewhere.
>most used server os
>windows
The state of Jow Forums in 2018
hes being facetious you idiot
do the random uppercase words and exclamation marks not give it away
>amazon shit compared to ebay
how so? lots of items are same price on amazon as ebay. ebay has no streaming video/music/ebooks, and ebay has no grocery delivery service. Even for independent sellers, amazon is arguably better.
This. This is why your bank runs COBOL from the fucking 80's no matter how hard you explain it could be working 3x better and be way more easy to work with, they wouldn't have to dig through CV for that one guy who still knows that language.
>t. never walked in a company data center
As someone who's not from the US eBay is much, much more user friendly and buyer friendly
>go to the official Amazon webpage
>find something
>price 13$
>"free shipping"
>says it ships overseas
>says absolutely nothing about the fact that free shipping applies to US only
>shipping costs listed absolutely nowhere
>okay, I guess it's free everywhere? I doubt but whatever.
>proceed to checkout
>that will be $55, just click here to confirm!
>piss off
>go to the EU Amazon
>nazi-speak
>prices 20-80% higher
>most things not even available outside of US
>can't understand German so I end up booking a room in a concentration camp instead
>go to eBay
>automatically calculates all costs, converts currencies and tells you where the item is being shipped from
>free shipping actually means shipping is free to your current location
>much better interface and user experience overall
I find eBay better desu.
>ebay has no streaming video/music/ebooks
Video and music is easier and more convenient ro download manually than to buy and stream.
>ebay has no grocery delivery service
I can't imagine being this fat. But there are alternatives to this. Not everything has to be centralized.
>I went to the wrong region's site and it didn't work right for me
waaahhh
>more convenient
Then buy it and download it. Amazon allows that too.
>this fat
or valuing your time enough that you decide grocery shopping in person is not a priority
Probably all of them, Facebook won't be the same Facebook that we have today, Amazon will be even more ubiquitous, apple will probably be a glorified high end phone maker though they have made some missteps lately so who knows, nobody will know alphabet exists still, and Microsoft will still be Microsoft though their server market share is set to increase
>wrong region's site
Are you retarded? The same doesn't happen on eBay. It has a proper universal site.
>Then buy it and download it
Why would I pay for something I can get for free?
>waaahhh
Autism
I thought Bing was the best for porn?
Woah, since when did this thread become a death battle for shills?
no shill here (65553640). i use both ebay and amazon. ebay has some items cheaper. amazon is more convenient.
Apple and Microsoft will both exist probably for most of our lifetimes. Both have existed before most of us were born and have been through many good and bad times. Apple was even declared dead at one point. Both companies produce hardware and software (and a few types of each) and have pretty dedicated corporate and consumer customers for all of them.
I'd change it to Facebook > Alphabet > Apple > Microsoft > Amazon
Dealing with actual products is important, hence why Amazon has the best chances. I know it feels like Apple and Microsoft should survive a downturn since they have been in the field for awhile and Amazon is fairly new.
So it's counterintuitive, but IMO Amazon has the best chances. Unless they get hit with antitrust then gg
The biggest problem with Facebook is that the whole data scandal thing blew up in their faces which might eventually lead to another Privacy Law/Data Regulation law. Now the bad part about this is if they can't bribe/lobby senators to make loopholes for them but if they can they will stay in the business. Now what happens if Facebook goes down? Probably some next gen social media platform by Tencent or Weibo shows up and eventually bridges the East-West gap. Tencent and other Chinese tech companies conglomerates are just waiting for the big tech companies in the West to pop so that they can take over quietly.
Alphabet's revenue is mostly also due to ads but they have way more power than Facebook. Just imagine this: they probably hold every data and sensitive information about senators - their browsing histories, sites they frequently visit, internet activities, etc.. They can just casually 'remind' the politicians that a 'leak' of their internet life will probably surface if they go against their policy so I'm pretty confident that they're gonna stay afloat while FB might pop off.
Apple for sure is going to suffer the same fate as BlackBerry, no matter how many talents they poach from other Silicon Valley companies. They don't have a leadership that has the same drive and vision as Jobs. Samsung and other Eastern tech companies are already encroaching on their smartphone market share and once people get bored of their products and see the competition offering better products, they're off to go. Their iPads and other products are just way too stale now. Their products can't survive in an economy where people are locked down with their own proprietary peripherals.
Microsoft and Amazon have already diversified enough. They're mostly targeting businesses now to profit from seeing as how the clueless managers/CEOs are easily exploitable by selling them things they need for prices more expensive but they can justify due to their brand name.
Facebook is the only one in any serious trouble of dying, their business model is too monolithic.
>t. never walked literally anywhere else but a company data centre
My guy, this isn't fucking James Bond.
An operating system used by the majority of the world isn't going to disappear even if they have absolutely no income. They'll just apply for government funding and then pick up where they left off since everyone uses Windows. Nobody is gonna use Linux and Mac isn't games friendly
>Amazon
Either you're more blind than a bat or you don't see the literal Monopoly Bezos has over the HaaS model, global shipping, and multi-service hosting (video streaming, music streaming etc.) This man will not die compared to how Microsoft could die (but they are staying alive for a different reason)
Fuck I read the title of this post wrong my bad user.