Prefer free software

Except in China and North Korea. And you wonder why we call you communists.

Telemarketers astroturfing.

>nonfree software is botnet
>private property is theft

>botnet

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Jow Forumssters are retarded children that don't know what free software or communism are.

Case in point:

We aren't talking about freeware you fucking retards.

>claim proprietary software is unethical
>"durr that's totally not equivalent to saying property is theft hurr"
The absolute state of freetards.

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Replace Jow Forums with Jow Forums and you know the answer and the solution.

Jow Forums isn't about red scare. It has never been. You're thinking of /ptg/. Jow Forums has always been about conspiracy theories. Proprietary software is spyware is one of them. So we advocate free software. You fucking morons.

>Trying to compare hiding how a computer program works to owning private property

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I am a Jow Forumstard and I enjoy software with less botnets to calm my schizophrenia.

Owning things is fine, but proprietary software means owning people, which isn't ethical. When you sell software, actually sell it to me so i can use it how I want and don't give me a binary that forces me to do what you want.

>hiding how a computer program works
Tech illiterate confirmed.

Define free software and communism then show how the definition of the first is a superset set of the definition of the second.

Plus points: Say your age.

Commie bullshit
youtube.com/watch?v=BwozkbmjzC4

Big business steals free software: WAAAAHHH, WHERE'S MUH SORES CODE?!?!?!

North Korea steals free software: *crickets chirping*

Tell me more about how you aren't communists, kid.

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We do it to aggravate you because you're such insufferable faggots.

I'm fearing talking to you makes me dumber than before.

This really seizes my means of production

would you volunteer to go to north korea to resolve this problem yourself?

Wow that's a really good argument. I guess free software is communism after all. It's never too late to learn I guess XD.

Free software is a psyop support open source only.

+1

Stealing a free as in freedom to copy and shit
Oh my, /pol dumberinos are the best

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because they are cucks who drank that bullshit libertarian kool aid

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Because it's subversive by nature.

>*copies free software binaries*
>OMG WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE

>heh, you're free to copy it user... except don't copy it too hard, otherwise we might come at you with a lawsuit XD

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Teenagers without any idea what communism is.

Because it's full of retarded libertarians...

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>Communism is when you don't criticize communists as much as I would like you to.

This is a person who advocates for proprietary software.

The attachment of communist to fos is a pol move you fuck wit

> Isn't it ironic that the proprietary software developers call us communists? We are the ones who have provided for a free market, where they allow only monopoly. … if the users chooses this proprietary software package, he then falls into this monopoly for support … the only way to escape from monopoly is to escape from proprietary software, and that is what the free software movement is all about. We want you to escape and our work is to help you escape. We hope you will escape to the free world.

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Qui tacet consentire videtur. Faggot.

Nope. Jow Forums is pro-free software. Try again, you cringeworthy Jow Forums-shit.

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Because if your software comes from the government for """free""" you're still paying for it with taxes, and forcing people who don't even want to pay for that shit you socialist retards.
>hurr abolish private property goyim

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>XD LE CRINGE

(you)

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Is there a way to structure free software development and making an actual profit (not donating to paypal)?

Do we need new licensing that charges corporations? I know some free software that uses cloud stuff charges to use their cloud service (zotero, wallabag, etc).
I wouldn't be adverse to actual communist principles in free software (unionizing free software).

To be fair here, Stallman's political theories are retarded.

Simple question: how do you have a society that has both a vibrant welfare state funded by progressive taxation AND complete financial privacy and anonymity? Are people supposed to just report their income to the government out of the goodness of their hearts?

Communists don't want no government, you idiot. Communism is anarchic by nature. Stallman is an anarchist.

Ask red hat.

Meanwhile the US government is the largest Microsoft licencee.

Sell support, training or customizations. See Red Hat, SuSe and Oracle with Java®.

>a Bernie Sanders supporting anarchist

Just stop posting bullshit.

This.

They make money by actually supporting their projects instead of dropping proprietary abbandonware and charging a license fee.

This is incorrect.

I don't understand this question. How is it related to the thread?
Is that because stallman doesn't use credit cards? I don't think he is against the government being able to audit a person's financial life. He just doesn't like how much data the CC companies collect and how obscure is it's use.

>Paying isn’t wrong, and being paid isn’t wrong. Trampling other people’s freedom and community is wrong, so the free software movement aims to put an end to it, at least in the area of software.

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>Is there a way to structure free software development and making an actual profit (not donating to paypal)?
the same way you make money with proprietary software

>Do we need new licensing that charges corporations?
big corporations don't pay for software anyway, free or proprietary they just try and shake the little guy down so they can get a low rate

>Why does Jow Forums connect free, libre and open source software with communism?
Because of the GPL.

MIT license is an acceptable FOSS license.

does this only work for big corporations though? Consider Scrivener which is no red hat by any means. How could they profit by making it free?

Chinese companies also steal a lot of proprietary software and hardware designs. Does this make proprietary software IP communist too?

>Scrivener
I don't know this one. But for smaller software a common first step is selling books the said software. There are also many cases in which the free software is not developed and market by a company but by a """non-profit""" group of companies with a common goal. Linux, Gnome, SystemD and Django are examples of this.

>In political and social sciences, communism is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money and the state.

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Saying that the ultimate goal of communists is an anarchistic society is different from saying communists don't want government in general. Communists usually think a strong State regulating all aspects of life is the best way to achieve their final goal.

They usually don't. Just because only the ones who did got famous and you've only heard of them doesn't they usually do. Study more.

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>but first we need to establish a dictatorship over the entire planet and brainwash all of homo sapiens for generations until everyone alive is physically incapable of ever even contemplating non-communist thought, at which point our totalitarian descendant's will definitely abolish all government and allow the superior human beings they created to live in an eternal Utopia of goodwill and compassion

I was talking about communist "people" in general not communist philosophers. Telling people to study more is not an argument.

Said no one ever.

I was talking about communist people too.
>le "not an argubend meme XDDDD"
If you're a retarded libertarian who follows that pseudo-philosopher Molyneux, then I don't wanna talk to you anymore. Off to the Gulag you go.

Because they forget about the part where you're not forced to work on open source software, and you generally only do it for other kinds of compensations, either being the pleasure of writing the code itself (which is why most Open source software sucks at the boring code parts such as GUIs) or getting something to boost your job prospects.

Would something like a patreon for a union of free software work? Like a group of free software developers group together and people pay the group

books I guess require capital to start producing. I guess I'm interested in a more structural change where-in free software developers can profit (if not solely for their program and maybe support).

I love free software, but the monetary incentives too good to close off your software.

>Off to the Gulag you go
Who runs a gulag when there's no state?

You don't get to ask questions, you just get to work the fields. You haven't even figured out who would own prisons in your stateless ancap utopia, so you're obviously not ready to think about that.

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There is nothing wrong with free software, but some free software types want to force it on others using government. If someone wants to make a software and not share the code, I think he should have the right to make that decision.
I also don't have a problem with communism if they keep to themselves, but communists tend to try to force their ways on the rest of the world.

Lol good work anons you just unleashed the shills from Microsoft.

The FSF and the Linux foundation have plenty of money for shills. Microsoft is busy making sure their users have basic features that freetards will never have like filepicker thumbnails.

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>ancap memes
Jow Forums understands better than Jow Forums does that Jow Forums is a leftist enclave that must be extinguished if they are to spread their cancer to every board

It's not Jow Forums, it's all the Jow Forumslacks bleeding in who don't understand how to profit off of free software.

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free software in isolation is just free software
free software as it's been used IRL as a means of convincing people everything should be free... well not exactly all that innocent

Red Hat doesn't profit off software. They profit off support.

>Buy chair
>It works okay for a while
>Unfortunately chair breaks
>Grab some wood and fix the chair, making it fit my use case again
>Friends who bought the same chair want me to fix it for them, I agree for a certain sum of money

>Buy software
>It works okay for a while
>One day it crashes
>Open up a text editor to modify it and fix it, making it fit my use case again
>Share my patches so other people can fix their software
Instead, you get sued up your ass because apparently its illegal to modify your property after you buy it. Tell me, how is owning your property communism?

and what if i don't approve of the government taking my tax dollars and giving them to malware companies who want to enact a police state

This. Free software is simple liberty and people are retarded to think otherwise.

Absolutely this.

property is a spook

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this is just a Jow Forums thread in disguise

go back to Jow Forums

those are the only sane posts in this thread

There is literally nothing wrong with spooks.

What if politics and technology overlap in some areas of discussion? It's almost like we're living in the 21st century!

Because you failed to call it Freedom Software OP
Call it Freedom Software
Freedom Software

Then you can watch their butt cheeks clench
Because they literally can't equate communism with freedom

TL;DR: You're doing it wrong.

You can modify your chair, but the company isn't obligated to give you blueprints for the chair, since those are two different things. Likewise you can technically modify a binary, but that doesnt mean developers are obligated to give you the source code, because they are two different things and they're only giving you one.

"I am free from what I am rid of, owner of what I have in my power or what I control."

I'd agree. I want government to say out of tech and business in general.

>Jow Forums
>shills linux neckbeard C crap
>shits on actual decent free software like eclipse

There is literally nothing wrong with spooks.

if it's trivial for them to send me the blueprints then they should do it, not letting customers inspect how their merchandise is made is the act of a con artist

also proprietary software almost always forbids studying, modifying and redistributing the binary

sad that eclipse is considered an example of "good" lmao

>if it's trivial for them to send me the blueprints then they should do it
according to whom? they are not under any obligation to do so. Blueprints were never for sale in this example.
>also proprietary software almost always forbids studying, modifying and redistributing the binary
perhaps, but that is far from what free software entails.

most freetard software is janky amateur garbage, rms-tier autism makes you look like communists