IT'S HAPPENING!!!!

It's amazing how many Jow Forumsentoomen never read the actual original source and just take whatever OP says to heart.
It's a real problem.

>muh clauds iz not botnet
hurr hurrr
>current state of nu-Jow Forums

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really weird the news headline has a cursor at the end. regardless, as long as they release it as free software i am okay with this

do you not get they were making fun of the redundant retardation
or is that too advanced for an ESL brainlet like you

>Google did this already
>They took Linux kernel for ChromeOS
>They redistributed it with additional restrictions, not allowed by GPL
>Nobody gave a fuck
>Microsoft sensed an opportunity to do the same
>As additional insurance, Microsoft makes nice with Linus Torvalds
>Torvalds owns Linux and is the only one with standing to sue

Seriously though, you guys are all fucking retarded. If you're all so concerned about MUH BOTNET why haven't you stopped posting on Jow Forums and gone to live in the woods off your sustainable small crops.

wsl doesn't use a kernel (other than windows nt)

A lot of boards do it. Seems like arguing over hypotheticals is more fun.

botnet has always been a dumb buzzword on Jow Forums

runs any background processes? botnet.
is distributed as a binary? botnet.

the biggest joke is that these spergs would never actually sift through the source code of any of the software they use to see if it's doing anything unusual, they just take it on good faith that someone else would have noticed and said something

It’s not a distro it’s a fucking kernel

Indeed, I'm retarded.
Still, I hope there are some plans for Windows integration.

.t MS shill

I actually have a friend doing this right now.

Props to him for taking control and doing something he feels is necessary/justified instead of bitching on Jow Forums about anything that forms an outbound TCP connection.

everyone can make it's own kernel in fact

kys if you can't see the difference between google adopting linux and micro$$oft adopting linux. i don't even think that this is that big of a deal but come on.

EXTEND

GO BANKRUPT

>tfw microcucks has to upstream all of their work of GPL's going to rip their asshole apart

>tfw microsoft is now a slave to our kernel developement for us neets

WE WINNNNN

Interesting.

EXTINGUISH

What distro? Did you even read the article dumb faggot

Theyre upset tensorflow doesn't work on windows

Gnulinux is obsolete
Now we have MS/Linux or how I like to call it MS+Linux
The year of linux for desktop is comming but isnt the linux everyone expected, it MS/Linux

and EXTINGUISH

So linux is a botnet?

Does this mean that linux will finally get 5 different filepickers with great icon previews but 80 different themes and behaviors?

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Nice now pajeets have an initiative to write their scam script for my machine aswell.

>1. shill the distro to normies, thus increasing the number of software ported to linux
Do we fuck as like. It'll be full of proprietary microsoft extensions and bloat so that their pajeetware can run on it. No need to poison the well any further.
>2. never ever fucking touch the distro because it will for sure be botnet
This I can get behind.

>>tfw microcucks has to upstream all of their work of GPL's going to rip their asshole apart
Great, another repository of shit.
>>tfw microsoft is now a slave to our kernel developement for us neets
Slave coders from India writing slave quality code. Well done.
>WE WINNNNN
winning.

>thread title: ID'S HABBENNIIIIING
>thread content: Nothing is happening
Every time.

youtube.com/watch?v=TwbQaWeVYPM
>"not only is this more convenient for consumers"
>"this creates new opportunities for businesses as well"
>"there are completely new business models that are enabled by the collection and processing of information from connected devices"

Azure Sphere OS is pretty much just a microcontroller with spyware installed for corporations. can't wait for the future!

And what is your story supposed to prove? That we should look through Microsoft's code to confirm it isn't malicious? If only that was possible.

Notice the distinction between customers and consumers in that video. How telling. Can't wait until my internet connected toilet watches me pee and won't flush without a connection, and my smart lighting system shuts down entirely until I remove the unofficial lamp and replace it with the official DRM-enabled .lamp(tm) that shuts down after 500 hours to enhance my consumer experience.

Is this finally the year of Linux desktop?

>Nothing is happening
Except for

ETERNITY

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That's effectively 80% of all Jow Forums threads.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT A WINDOWS REPLACEMENT?

Too long to write, just call it MSX.

If they don't make the code open-source, it's clear that they have nefarious goals.

If they gain users from the Linux end of things because of this, the Linux users they do pull will only be the braindead ones

>linux
>distro

It's based on a GPL-licensed project.
They are legally required to make it open-source.

? Neither is interested in OSS. What's the diffirence? Google is a vastly more powerful company in the current year too.

Amazon does it, Oracle does it, everyone does it

>microsoft
>following laws

I'm not sure I follow, fellow citizen.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Then they wouldn't proudly announce that their product is Linux based, which would only help lawsuits against them.

This but unironically.

Yes, clearly their stated intention of "loving open source" projects is their motivator and nothing of ill will could possibly come of this.

Yo, I fucking called this years ago. Windows can't be sustained. It begins with them allowing users to install Linux programs in Windows. Now, they ship their own fork of the Linux kernel. The last step, is they will build a full Windows system on top of that kernel. Maybe at first, they will ship it as "Windows L" or Microsoft Linux" but sooner or later, it will just be called Windows. You'll be using Linux drivers, you'll be installing Linux software, and you'll be able to do everything you would traditionally do on Windows. I foresee a much more professional version of Wine straight from Microsoft which will be used to play old games and such.

Could I get a sauce on the additional restrictions part

I warned you faggets, there is not going to exists another winshit, their gonna grab the Linux kernel mix it with .NET, remove shitty xorg and add their DE. I Fucking warn you.

yes it has to have the windows name on it so their normie userbase do not panic

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Windows is in fact, GNU/Windows, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Windows. Windows is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Windows, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Windows is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Windows added, or GNU/Windows. All the so-called “Windows” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Windows.

yeah the gig was up by at least 2012 if not earlier. Everyone uses some variant of *nix now, except Windows which everyone hates.

So here's a question, is there some legality we can enforce on microsoft that doesn't allow them to hold shares in their direct competition seeing as that is a sort of conflict of interest?

Certainly those shares shouldn't be legal, right?

what you talking about nigga, it wont be GNU/Windows, gonna be Microsoft Linux or some shit, M$ has their own core utils like powershell

what you mean by shares?

If only they would rewrite windows 10 to fully support linux terminal emulators. Windows 95 or 98 was the last one thst was actually built on top of cmd wasnt it?

They now have controlling interest in the linux foundation, iirc.

If not controlling, then a large part, enough to seat people on the board of the foundation, even though it's supposedly still non-profit.

And shares is the wrong word, seeing as it's not publicly traded, fuck, I'll just go grab the article.

So now we have GNU/NT and MS-Linux.

Checkmate to the retards who insist on naming GNU/Linux, "Linux."

Honestly, I don't see a need for it. Linux is always going to be restricted by the GPL. Even if they try to influence the kernel, Linus is ultimately the one in control of that. If he doesn't like what they ask for, he will tell them to fuck off, and if it's a logical and sane addition to the kernel, he will add it, because he doesn't care who the patches come from as long as they work.

No, now the GNU/Linux usage has to be more strong to identify the OS because stupid normies calling Linux to Windows/Linux are going to born soon. like :
Q: "Which flavor of windows are you using?
R: Linux

So who won in the end?

YEAR. OF. THE. LINUX.

This wouldn't be a problem if people called the operating system by its name: GNU.
But since Linux has an X on it, the name caught on.
Hell, Microsoft calls their GNU implementation "Windows Subsystem for Linux" even though no Linux code is running at all, only GNU and programs compatible with GNU.

This is what is going to happen:

>Windows monkeys gonna get mad at Linus
>They gonna branch Linux
>You gonna start finding weird modules running all time
>Systemd its gonna be replaced for a svchost like service
>Distro switch gaymers gonna claim windows the best linux distro cuz they can fap at Fapornite using latest nVidia drivers which for some reason fails on Linus version of kernel
>Finally we wont get tons of threads of noobs complaining about shitbuntu cuz windows gonna add them visual UIs for retards like them
>Server companies gonna start using M$ Linux as their primary OS
>Linus gonna stop writing because of depression
>Suddenly you gonna see M$ kernel pushed into the main linux repos
>Linus gonna die in 2020 bald because of cancer
>There gonna be daily Jow Forums threads forcing haiku

looks like it's time for BSD to shine

ayylmao the idea is to never have a job doesn't it? ayyyylmao Jow Forums never change.

Did you forget to take the text cursor out of the edit, user?

haiku its Jow Forums's NEET salvation OS.

Watch as this shit ends up becoming the best linux distro out there because of how incompetent everyone else is.

This is actually a botnet you fucking retard! This is the FIRST TIME IN ALL OF HISTORY where Jow Forums uses the term correctly and you bitch about it?

>M$ office dumbs
>Gaymers
>shitty drawfags
>enterprise pajeets

Those are the only retards who can't use GNU/Linux today

alternatively:

>MS Linux gamers find themselves without any games because nobody wants to do the work of porting to both Windows and Linux (MS or not), see the Steambox as an analogous example
>MS Linux gamers then stuck with bad Xbox ports, until MS shuts that entire sector down because they're not a consumer products company anymore
>MS fucks up some core service in an update and breaks their OS in some update due to inexperience with Linux
>all the suckers who bought into MS-Linux find themselves with fucked computers and have to go back to their pre MS-Linux installs while everyone else is fine
>compatibility issues with legacy systems hamper bugfixes and their software melts down as MS tries integrating Windows into it
>MS still promoting WS as an alternative, splitting their ecosystem
>meanwhile developers still don't trust MS in the first place because of UWP bullshit being fisted into MS-Linux so programs aren't ported to it
>Best Buy finally dies, meaning Walmart becomes the exclusive dealer of MS consumer PCs in America, where they are sold as student workstations buried underneath piles of Chromebooks

Fact is Microsoft is broken and even their customers know that. No amount of new software can fix the basic problem of Microsoft not being able to provide a better service than available alternatives. Enterprise clients don't get fucked as hard, but at more time goes on fewer will see any reason to port to MS-Linux or deal with any of the proprietary stuff MS would inevitably fill it with. For as shit as Google is they're more predictable, easier to port to and have a larger marketshare. Consumers have already spoken and they don't want Windows products, because Windows is associated with the shitty laptop their mom had before they got her a tablet.

>the work of porting to both Windows and Linux

what are you talking about?, there is not need to port , M$ just gonna end creating a translation layer so the windows API calls works and tons of new applications and games uses now .NET which also runs in linux and xbox.

Linuxies think that they more intelligenter then you think they dispreven this...but they wont.

They already made their kernel compatible with linux.

>creates new architecture hardware

You understand that by using the GPL they have to upstream hardware support right?

This will give us Mediatek support on mainline linux without all of their extra crap in their forked kernel.

ie no special sauce implemented at kernel level.
This doesn't stop userspace distribution obviously.

This is why Sony/Apple chose to go with a permissible license so they don't have to upstream additions to their kernel forks.
(or else *BSD's would run on their platforms with a unlocked bootloader)

dude, final user and shitty devs wont even notice their OS its on the top of Linux just like Android.

They made their own Linux Kernel almost a decade ago.

Look it up.

>or else *BSD's would run on their platforms with a unlocked bootloader
Thank god Android phones can't have locked bootloaders...

.NET barely fucking works for most people and dll hell is already a major problem for someone having to deal with a lot of legacy software, ie a person who is most likely to buy the newest Microsoft product. Even if MS goes through all the work to make porting as easy as possible, they have nothing to offer except more work for the developers. For existing Windows users there is no point in MS-Linux because it's not Windows, and for existing *nix users (everyone from servers to phones) there is no point in MS-Linux because it's not stock Linux (at least it wouldn't be stock Linux after MS starts fucking with it, causing bugs and compatibility problems).

This isn't even taking into consideration platform-specific issues like Windows Marketplace that devs don't want to deal with when they're not going to be capable of competing against inhouse MS products that are baked right into the OS. This is already a problem with Windows, making Windows into Linux or making Linux into Windows does not solve this problem.

But fine, let's suppose that MS itself figures out a solution to all these problems. Microsoft as a company is then forced to offer two products: Windows and MS-Linux. Given how they've treated Windows users over the past ten years with W8 and W10, MS would obviously want to eliminate one of these two groups. So either they eliminate Windows and force their oldest customers to convert their special snowflake software to Linux or they offer a shitty distro that takes a backseat to legacy support which wouldn't be competitive against other *nix systems (like Andriod or RHEL). Meanwhile, devs look at this nightmare and continue fleeing to Google since they are a known quantity.

There's just no way for MS to win here. Either they burn all their existing customers by trying a new product or they continue offering a product less and less people want every year.

They can but that is a seperate argument compared to licenses.

Besides all flagships allow you to unlock it (at your own caution) if it's not unlocked already like the Pixel's or Nexus phones. (they just dont want people bricking their phones on warranty)

Only chinkers don't allow you to unlock the bootloader because they don't even comply with the GPL.

...

>Only chinkers don't allow you to unlock the bootloader because they don't even comply with the GPL.

>what is GPLv2 and tivoization

>Only chinkers don't allow you to unlock the bootloader because they don't even comply with the GPL.
Motomagx and montavista either.

chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/

To me it seems like they're abiding to the GPLv2 just fine.

WSL is pretty much GNU/NT in a very literal sense.