Why should I use Void Linux? What's the deal?

Yep, forgot about that.
Even on Funtoo it was a print in the ass to switch.

people use it because it's fast and they couldn't figure out how to install gentoo

I use it because Arch doesn't work on ARM. Pick up the musl version for headless ARM machines and maintenance should be minimal.

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I think this distro is maintained by a crazy paerson living in spain or something. a single man project... not very safe I say

I've seen his pic on patron page

PS I used Voidlinux like 3 years ago. Now it's hip so silly lol

>they couldn't figure out how to install gentoo
Not true.
I simply don't feel like running Funtoo on my laptop or old Intel NUC that I use as media centre.

I just want Debian but more lightweight. I don't mind Systemd because I like having a working desktop OS

the fuck are you talking about. there's arch linux arm. i'm like literally running it on a raspberry right now as a pihole

>add libressl to this, all other distros use openssl by default

>In April 2014 in the wake of Heartbleed, members of the OpenBSD project forked OpenSSL starting with the 1.0.1g branch, to create a project named LibreSSL.[44] In the first week of pruning the OpenSSL's codebase, more than 90,000 lines of C code had been removed from the fork.[45]

WTF? What are those 90 thousand lines of code doing?

in what way is debian not light enough?

>what are those lines of codes doing
dead, useless, bad code. for example, if i remember correctly, the openssl badly reimplemented their own libc - they had memory leaks from their malloc() for instance. obviously on a system made in this century its unnecessary and dangeous. theres no doubt more examples like this.

> the openssl badly reimplemented their own libc - they had memory leaks from their malloc() for instance.

Holy fuck. Why hasn't everyone switched over to libressl? de Raadt is an autist but he's an autist who can code.

OP if you don't know why then don't do it and stick with noob friendly distros

xtraeme is no longer developing void and it's not a single man project

hooktube.com/watch?v=oM6S7FEUfkU

It has a cool name and a cool logo

because people are irrationally afraid of what they don't understand, and everyone likes to get high off misunderstanding openbsd. It's like the Haskell of operating systems.

openbsd.org/papers/pruning.html
openbsd.org/papers/ru13-deraadt/

>inb4 the inevitable 'openbsd is a meme' pasta

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Why is systemd so bad? Asking seriously, I've been using Arch for a couple of years and I don't know why you guys say that. (from a user point of view, not developer)
Also, has Void good documentation? Probably what I love most from Arch is the wiki.

Mostly scope creep and shitty bugs which should have never happened in the first place. Poettering being a smug cunt while misunderstanding some basic as fuck stuff is just icing on the cake
without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd

>Mostly scope creep
link related: sudosatirical.com/articles/tensions-rise-between-emacs-and-systemd/

Thanks for the info. What about the docu?

void-related stuff like xbps or runit has good enough documentation and for the rest just use arch wiki

Cool. I'm reading that a lot of packages are buggy, is that true?

I've only had problems with the musl version on which some Go programs would segfault.

like what?

no systemd

Switched to Void from Arch. It's actually a pretty natural transition - the only thing I had to get used to was the way services are handled and changing around some of my bindings in i3 because no pulse audio.

I like it. Its barebones. You can use archwiki to install a lot of stuff. People are quick to respond on help. I use it for VMs, browsing Jow Forums and odd drawing.

>fpbp

I know systemd but what's wrong with pulseaudio? Can it break my system?

Xbps doesn't have autocomplete for packages. You gotta query and grep over and over.

This i have mint cinnamon on like 3 machines, need a big reason to jump to devuan or void, havent found it yet and yes i hate poettering just as much as (You)

alot of fags say remove pulse but it always ends up breaking my keyboard volume controll which is a nightmare. just learn how to make alsa take exclusive contol of your device and drive your hardware directly

deeDBeef is an easy way to start.. and thats why people hate pulse / system D.... its now tied into everything (dont get me started on forcing bit depth and sample rates reee)

This is false, install bash completion, and autocomplete works fine.

I siwtched to it from Fedora.

It mostly just fees like Arch desu.
But unlike Arch, it's got LibreSSL.
No systemd.
xbps-src, which is pretty neat.
A musl version.
An edgy name.
And a surprisingly decent selection of packages for such a distro.

I wouldn't say it's worth quite the hype train it has. But if you like Arch, it's definitely worth giving it a quick look.

i hate arch
but i like void

> install void
> update packages
> reboot machine
> kernel panic
Nah you guys can miss me with this gay shit, I don't have time to babysit a distro where the package manager will brick the damn install just by updating the default apps on a fresh, 2 second old install.

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it didn't brick anything, just boot older kernel if newer one doesn't work

The only thing that's holding me back from trying this distro is that not many people use it.

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WTF I love Void now.

void BTFO going back to windows 10

>he cropped the April 1st out
voidlinux.eu/news/2018/04/my-little-void.html

True, what the mlp meme is dead and has been for a while. So not only is the head dev a sperg memelord, but an out-of-touch sperg memelord, the worst of both worlds.

>make TWO blogposts dedicated to mlp
what did void mean by this?

Our guys.

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Do you like having sex with horses?
If so, install void today

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xrs
xi
Is that so hard?

>void is for ponyfags

>debian is for trannys and lesbians

Do you like having sex with men?
Use a computer.

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wait, did you just ASSUME that package's GENDER, YOU CIS SCUM?!

Vector Linux is Void without the autism
Don't use Void unless you have autism

>not rolling release
on the petty side:
>terrible website and logo design

I'm installing it on my thinkpad x220.
I've just installed Xorg, should I get the propietary (Intel) drivers?
On Arch I used:
$ pacman -S xorg-server xorg-apps xorg (1: libglvnd)
$ pacman -S mesa xf86-video-intel lib32-mesa lib32-mesa-libgl
I'm searching on the wiki but I don't find any Intel drivers:
wiki.voidlinux.eu/Proprietary_Video_Drivers

isn't mesa partially maintained by intel?

No idea to be honest.
It's working fine with the default drivers though, I made the xorg.conf file for the screeen-tearing and it's all good. Should I install any driver or I'm fine like this?

I switched from gentoo to void because I got tired of resolving portage conflicts.

So If I installed the "xorg" package I'm already running the "xf86-video-intel" driver?

only on musl, which you'd be crazy to run as a daily driver. great for vms and containers though.

If you guys don't use Pulseaudio with Void, what do you use? Just Alsa?

>last update was in 2015

Pulse used to be really bad. Really really really bad. 5 or 6 years ago, I'd estimate probably 50% problems I ever had with my system were pulseaudio related. It's gotten a lot better and I still use it, but it hasn't dropped the baggage of being shitty for the longest time.

cool, thanks.
Also, does anyone know why I'm lacking fonts and icons on xfce4? I've only installed the "xfce4" package. In Arch I had installed the "xfce4" and "xfce4-goodies" packages, but there is no "xfce4-goodies" in Void. What else should I install?

that's because intel drivers are not propietary
xf86-video-intel is what you want, but it already comes with xorg metapackage
if you don't want to install every driver then use xorg-minimal

yes, that's what i meant

jack. void also supports sndio from openbsd

i think you need
>gnome-icon-theme-xfce-0.6_1 Theme adding missing icons for Xfce
and any fonts package. xorg-minimal doesn't install any fonts

I just use alsa, yeah

Is there any Alsa GUI (or CLI) mixer that lets you change the volume of each application running (firefox, music player, etc...)
What's "jack"?

>Is there any Alsa GUI (or CLI) mixer that lets you change the volume of each application running (firefox, music player, etc...)
there is no such a thing as per-app volume in alsa
>What's "jack"?
jackaudio.org/

>(from a user point of view, not developer)
I got a boot loop on my laptop, because f2fs didn't have fsck and instead giving me any info, systemd threw some bullshit unrelated error and instantly rebooted my system forever.

Don't want to touch it ever again.

Void wiki covers everything that's different from major distros. Read it and you can use Arch wiki (though I don't recommend it. Use gentoo one.) and it will work for Void as well.

In my personal experience I've got a lot of problems with it such as sound staggering and cracking.

It's nice if you have many outputs that you constantly change, but pretty useless otherwise.

Not that bad.

Older kernels are preserved until you purge them.

But that reminds me how some time ago arch updated kernel and my laptop just stopped booting.

After that happened twice more, I left arch.

Also, since then I run custom kernels everywhere.

>Intel
>Proprietary
What?

Even on Post-Installation page it says to run
xbps-install xf86-video-intel

Also, many people recommend using no driver for Intel and fallback to Xorg modesetting. But it has terrible tearing.

What GUI music player do you guys recommend for Void?

CMus?
Also fuck SJWzilla for forcing pulseaudio rubbish in their shit software

>Cmus
>GUI

Just finished installing void on a USB with dwm and a host of other suckless tools. I am a breathing meme.

Firefox on void doesn't require pulseaudio.

It's not even a patch.

I hope you installed it manually using only xbps-install -Rs -r without such bloat as "Base-System" meta packages.

Can confirm that runit has issues starting wpa_supplicant on 32 bit systems.

Holy shit guys this is my first day trying it and it's even more comfy than Arch.

>xbps-install -Rs -r
what? you mxed remove and install syntax

you shouldn't start it with runit. dhcpcd has wpa_supplicant hook

>what? you mxed remove and install syntax
I did not. Though I did mix up "RS" and "Rs".
The second small "r" is to select the root directory for installation.

Here's an example:
xbps-install -S -R repo.voidlinux.eu/current -r /mnt base-system grub-x86_64-efi

what exactly is this doing? How different is this to using the iso?

hmm nice desu wiki.voidlinux.eu/Installation_on_UEFI,_via_chroot

It just allows to install only the packages you need.
No stupid bootstraps needed. PM can do everything.

This user is right. Though I disagree with their partition scheme.

Oh, it's also excellent for creating chroot.

Do you guys have any Void wallpaper?
Also, what's wrong with chromium? It won't start even though it's on the task manager

Mine starts ok. Is there any output to the console?

Here's a wallpaper generator: e100beta.github.io/void-wp.html

Why would you need one, though.

thanks.
Here's the output

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Never seen anything like that.
Ask on a forum. They are pretty friendly.

it's hipster, don't use it

here's what you should be using

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>Vim
>Firefox
>Urxvt
>Minimalist
Was this made by a retard?

Well ok, thanks nevertheless