What's your opinion on this?

The GNOME version is top notch, try it.

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Why fucking broadcow-wl driver never updates with kernel update?

I use it, I'm fine with it.
Kinda works.

I'd use it because of yast and KDE focus, but leap packages are too ancient for me and tumbleweed breaks occasionally

>and tumbleweed breaks occasionally
Still much rarer that Arch.

>its the german bureaucracy of distros
FTFY
also systemD/linux

Tumbleweed broke in a month, and ironically it was some shit with mesa/xorg, after that I switched to arch and been using for over a year now with no major issues

her eyelashes are so bushy it looks like she needs to shampoo them

used tumbleweed for a very short period of time(2 days)
it feels intuitive to use
yast is great and powerful
but the installation is quite bloated(a full DE takes up about 5GB),and thats a drawback to me

Waiting for Leap 15.

Unfortunately not the case in my experience. I've used Arch for 5 years and TW for 2-ish. Tumbleweed seems to break rarely, but still it occasionally happens. With Arch it's more my own doing that might break it (has happened twice in that time). But with TW and btrfs snapshots, it's easy to recover.

You should use the netinstall iso if you want to be minimalist

I use opensuse. Here are my thoughts about it.
Pros
- Snapshots. This is really a killer feature because if your system is buggy from an update you can rollback.
- The installer is the best of any distro because you can change any package you add. You can install for example Cinnamon instead of Plasma and make your install as minimal as you want.
- There's a GUI for everything.

Cons
- Poor hardware suppport. They should add more botnet drivers in the distro so they can compete better with Ubuntu.

What in the name of fuck

Lacks packages. Small userbase means weird bugs. Snapshots would be cool. I'll stock with fedora.

I always get tempted to try Tumbleweed, but on every thread there's people saying that it breaks a lot.

And I don't want the old packages on the Leap version.

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>on every thread there's people saying that it breaks a lot.
We're all paid red hat shills, just try it for yourself

But...but it's so ugly and retarded

german IT is a shitshow and a disgrace for the human species. an ultimate proof that germans love excrements

What about geckolinux.github.io/ ?

Looks good for less experienced users.

Germany

Would not even boot on my machine because of a kernel panic. Also, there's no documentation on how to build the distro so I can't contribute to it.

I used it for a while, not bad at all. Just really slow boot and have to install the shit that Gecko installs by default because it understands that many people want it (like font rendering that is not absolute garbage and codecs)

>like font rendering that is not absolute garbage and codecs
not included in base install because of patents and licences and other bs that the end user cares not of very much yes

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I'd use it over arch, but for some reason AMD GPU drivers doesn't work on leap or tumbleweed, so fuck it. Arch Linux is better and just works.

One thing I thought was interesting is they offer a web application that you can build your own custom distro and download your custom iso.

rude

I think they killed that

>AMD GPU drivers
Werked on my machine until , may be you ran into the same issue

Not as good as it used to be these days.

I'm trying to do server-side from scratch for the first time. Do I just use the sample code for the MySQL DB connection?

I still hate Yast

that's not very nice...

Grate distro. The best KDE integration. Highly recommended.

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>german IT is a shitshow and a disgrace for the human species. an ultimate proof that germans love excrements

Hahaha, my fucking sides. You are damn right!

t. German

Probably, but whatever, arch just works with GNOME (issues with KDE, which I'd prefer)

Did you try to rollback from a snapshot? That's what it's there for. Arch will eventually break for you like it did for me as a former Arch user of five years.

It's fantastic. leap and tumbleweed are awesome but I prefer leap because it's extremely stable and updates less. It completely replaced debian for me

I had a normal setup with ext4 at the time, and iirc it would get stuck on a black screen with no access to tty until I fixed something from live media, then it refused to start xorg and would complain about mesa/xorg packages, so I promptly moved to arch without trying to fix it.

Not that user, but I disabled rollback because it ate hard drive space like candy and eventually had to switch to ext4 due to performance problems.

>without trying to fix it.
how lazy are you?

I was in the distrohopping phase and it breaking in a month of use was enough of a reason to switch. May be I'll try it again some day, but currently arch just works and I don't have enough time to play with multiple systems.

i did use netinstall iso

Best noobie distro

This is a problem, but unlike Debian, I can install WiFi drivers via rpm package and it will work, unlike Ubuntu buggy proprietary driver tool shit.
Other problem is that Packmans repo is slightly outdated, so it is a good idea to lock kernel updates.

Use gecko linux to remove bloat. It disables patterns in zypper by default (though you could do it manually in oS). Patterns are what cause the massive bloat - along with pulling in recommends by default.

Also, you're always going to have a higher package count tchan, say, Arch because they split packages. Same issue with Debian.

Tumbleweed is good. OBS has a ton of extra software. It's rpm-based without being Red Hat dependant - though a lot of Red Hat specific packages will install without issue if you absolutely need them. Systemd is unfortunate, but to be expected in any enterprise system these days (oS is a sort of feeder/parallel distro for SLES).

Yast is... meh. Useful sometimes if you don't want to research configs, but overall very un-*nix like. It reminds me of Windows Control Panel. Luckily, it's optional to use.

Linux user for 15+ years. RHEL sysadmin by trade. I use openSUSE (and sometimes Slackware) when I just want it to work at home.

But is it more lightweight and not-in-your-way than Debian?

>It reminds me of Windows Control Panel.
Like something bad.
Hell no, dependencies in OpenSUSE are just bloated. Even if you disable patterns and recommendations.

Without recommends you're pulling in essentially what every other distribution does.

Testing
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Basedboi
Soiboi

I want to try Tumbleweed, some anons have experience with it?

well, german scat porn is one of the most exquisite in the world. Not even japanese get close

the important question is, can I install i3 + rofi + i3pystatus and rice it?

Only seriousway to use openSuSE on the desktop, imo.
Leap is so old it's mostly server oriented.

Snapper is a feature worth learning. It's a command/GUI that lets you rollback your system in case an update breaks something.